Elephant Seal vs Grizzly Bear.

[squeezewax]

On the beach.

Elephant seals, the males can get to 3,000 kg (6,600 lb) and a length of 5 m (16 ft).
They are covered in blubber, especially around the neck area which acts almost like armour.
They get pissed off very quicky too.

We all know how big grizzlies get don't we?

I think if a grizzly stood on it's hind legs and confronted a male Elephant Seal, i believe the seal would rise up and smash down on the bear, if it couldn't get a way.

This video is a snippet from a documentary i watched on tv this afternoon.

 

[Slick_36]

I think the bear is too maneuverable for the seal. It clinches while the seal is rising up or straight up takes the back immediately. Either way the seal doesn't have much of an answer. It's like comparing a sumo wrestler to Cain Velasquez. The sumo wrestler may have a lot more weight and explosiveness but his skillset is too specialized to the limited ruleset. More often than not the bear wins by lateral movement.

 

[Davem10]

Why on the beach

Let's put them both on Mars and give the seal a blunderbuss and the bear a cross bow, make it interesting

First one to win in a 100 metre sprint is the real mvp

 

[horc00]

More often than not the bear wins by lateral movement.

Spoiler

 

[Slick_36]

Spoiler

Check out the sweet duck under at 40 seconds in. Even outside of that they're almost always circling around the opponent.

 

[breadfighter]

Check out the sweet duck under at 40 seconds in. Even outside of that they're almost always circling around the opponent.

Yeah bear also takes a huge poo mid grapple which is pretty alpha too.

 

[HunterAcosta]

Grizzly gives up wayyyyyy too much weight and strength .

 

[dildos]

Def take the grizzly. I’ll take the grizzly over any carnivorous animal on land.

that’s so funny you posted this, the other day at work I was looking up elephant seals and walruses at work ha.

 

[spin]

so you figure an animal built for water and with no history of being a skilled predator on land or experience fighting with anything other than others of its own species, would "smash" the largest land predator, who has all those things.

like most animal face offs, the combatants would find the juice not worth the squeeze and go their separate ways. because that's what animals do. unless good pussy is involved.



animals are not out there competing for higher status among the stupid little half monkeys that are observing them.

 

[Slick_36]

so you figure an animal built for water and with no history of being a skilled predator on land or experience fighting with anything other than others of its own species, would "smash" the largest land predator, who has all those things.

like most animal face offs, the combatants would find the juice not worth the squeeze and go their separate ways. because that's what animals do. unless good pussy is involved.



animals are not out there competing for higher status among the stupid little half monkeys that are observing them.

I do wonder how a bear reacts to the seal raising up. Considering there isn't anything as massive that they face off against and they aren't the brightest, do they recognize the danger they're in? Do they take the hit like a skunk trying to intimidate a car on the highway.

I guess maybe they have experience with moose so they know not to stand still in front of a bigger animal. You're ultimately right that there's no point in discussing the hypothetical considering they would never risk the injury.

 

[sverre054]

Polar bears feed on Walrus which are even larger than Elephant seals. Large Grizzly could take one out no problem. In norther Alaska Grizzlies are expanding into polar bear territory, and outcompete them on land.

 

[babycart]

Seal has ONE chance to slam the bear silly. If the bear survives that, the winner bears all!

Check out the sweet duck under at 40 seconds in. Even outside of that they're almost always circling around the opponent.

That has more jits than all those TMA and RBSD videos purporting to show how to defeat BJJ.

 

[spin]

I do wonder how a bear reacts to the seal raising up. Considering there isn't anything as massive that they face off against and they aren't the brightest, do they recognize the danger they're in? Do they take the hit like a skunk trying to intimidate a car on the highway.

I guess maybe they have experience with moose so they know not to stand still in front of a bigger animal. You're ultimately right that there's no point in discussing the hypothetical considering they would never risk the injury.

the bear wouldn't have lived long enough to get to this encounter if it didn't recognize danger.

the biggest and strongest had to know how survive being the smaller and weaker long enough to get there

 

[the ambush]

An a-pex predator

 

[DoomPatrol]

On the beach.

Elephant seals, the males can get to 3,000 kg (6,600 lb) and a length of 5 m (16 ft).
They are covered in blubber, especially around the neck area which acts almost like armour.
They get pissed off very quicky too.

We all know how big grizzlies get don't we?

I think if a grizzly stood on it's hind legs and confronted a male Elephant Seal, i believe the seal would rise up and smash down on the bear, if it couldn't get a way.

This video is a snippet from a documentary i watched on tv this afternoon.

It also looks like most of that mass and height is left on the ground. I'm pretty sure a full grown grizzly would wreck a seal.

 

[SleepyBoy]

We've seen polar bears destroy huge walruses. But elephant seals are just so massive.

I would think the bear wins easy but i could see it just struggling with the size and could gas out.

 

[WandySaku2]

I'd put money on the seal. The bear would get intimidated by it from the beginning. Look at how cautious bears are before they fight, then imagine a 6000 beast fueled by anger and aggression bearing down on one. The fight would never even happen.

 

[Bacco]

In normal scenario bear would avoid that fight, just as polar bears do not take on big adult male walrus (who are smaller than ES, even if better armed)

Even assuming somehow it starts, bear will likely get tired as the giant does'nt die and retire

In absurd to-the-death scenario i slighty favor the grizzly
Bear will not be able to quickly kill the ES, but due almost not existent mobility the latter will have hard time to do much aside resist for hours and hours continuing power out of the grizzly hold

But still bear will just hold on his side multiple times trying to chew the back neck and scraching with claws

In this phase i think neither suffer instant deadly damage... At some point i think gassing and bleeding ES end energies, and on a non resisting prey the grizzly should be able to finish It

Only scenario of winning ES is bear making some error that get him crushed under ES weight getting some limb bones broken... If bear lose mobility he get wrecked

65/35 Bear

 

[Bacco]

Btw ES can reach 4000kg, not 3000

 

[benebox]

Polar bears feed on Walrus which are even larger than Elephant seals. Large Grizzly could take one out no problem. In norther Alaska Grizzlies are expanding into polar bear territory, and outcompete them on land.

I'm pretty sure polar bears only kill young or injured walruses. @Zookeeper Gabe