Ehxsur's Jones vs. Gane Mega Thread of Random Thoughts

DC was gassed in rd 1? Cormier landed 1 out of 8 takedown attempts and Jones landed 3 out of 5. Jones was the 1st guy to take DC down and the only guy to do it more than once in the same fight. Jones and Stipe are also the only ones to edge DC out on control time. Gane has never faced a grappler and got taken down 4x by Ngannou.
DC came in too emotional, Jones did surprise him with that first takedown but the rest were when DC was gassed and even then he couldn’t keep DC down. Jones had a huge size and leverage on DC so it’s not surprising the taller bigger wrestler would take him down.

In the rematch Jones couldn’t take him down
 
I agree that Jones wresslin is being exaggerated while Gane’s tdd is being underrated. That said, Gane is playing touch butt with his french Ido portal buddeh and honestly his training camp looks like a damn joke. I had him winning and I still think he might win, but just because I think Jones is washed up. I would never bet a dollar in this fight, though.
 
Lol no he either vacated because he knew he was close to losing a fight or he was suspended by usada
I still think it's just been a USADA suspension that we won't find out about until he publishes his ghost written autobiography "Cracked Bones: My Journey as a Fighter and How it Inspired Me to Appreciate Colombian Culture"
 
The last guy he outgrappled was a 40 years old LHW Cormier 5 years ago

He did nuthin against Santos or Reyes who are LHW, Reyes could legit fight in Adesanya weightclass BTW

Couldnt take down a one legged Santos lol

Jones will try to get close to Gane to shot a takedown and will get clipped clean by this:

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Wishful thinking you got there...
The hate within you must keep you awake at nights....
 
Jon cut 25 pounds to fight at LHW too.
Jon weighed 222.5lbs in the Gus rematch. That's the only fight where we have a confirmed fight night weight for him because it was in Nevada. I don't think we have any real proof but big Jon said DC was 236 lbs for the rumble rematch.
 
You’re laying some turds today sherbro. Be ready for the inevitable bump.

Jon has built enough credit in the bank. Until his wrestling is stifled…my money is on him to outgrapple anyone in an MMA match.
When you factor in grappling, you have to consider size and strength as well. Jones examples of his mma grappling is in a lower weight class vs fighters that are smaller in size and also not as strong as the fighters at HW.

Most people that analyze grappling never consider the size and strength differences in weight classes. Grappling is a lot harder to do vs bigger and stronger fighters. That's why grappling based fighters tend to cut a lot of weight. Their fighting style is harder to impose on bigger and stronger fighters.
 
Jon weighed 222.5lbs in the Gus rematch. That's the only fight where we have a confirmed fight night weight for him because it was in Nevada. I don't think we have any real proof but big Jon said DC was 236 lbs for the rumble rematch.

I doubt he he put 30lbs on overnight but 20-25 is the average.
 
DC came in too emotional, Jones did surprise him with that first takedown but the rest were when DC was gassed and even then he couldn’t keep DC down. Jones had a huge size and leverage on DC so it’s not surprising the taller bigger wrestler would take him down.

In the rematch Jones couldn’t take him down
Wrestlers are generally short for their divisions and being shorter never really stopped DC from slamming dudes on the canvas when he was a Heavyweight. Jones has taken down every single person he has fought beside Jake O'brien (he didn't attempt to take him down) and Santos (he only tried once for whatever reason). The fact of the matter is he did take DC down 3x and DC is a highly credentialed wrestler. Gane started out in muay thai and got taken down 4x by Ngannou. Gane has not faced a wrestler. Lot of question marks coming into this one. Can Jon wrestle as good as he used to? Will he try to wrestle? Can Gane defend his takedowns? I would have much rathered see Gane fight Blaydes than Tuivasa.
 
Jon weighed 222.5lbs in the Gus rematch. That's the only fight where we have a confirmed fight night weight for him because it was in Nevada. I don't think we have any real proof but big Jon said DC was 236 lbs for the rumble rematch.
Also you don't out all the weight you cut back on either.
 
After seeing Jones's "dream team" of subpar HW sparring partners and that nonsense about Gane not being that technical, I'm sort of expecting him to get smoked.

Unless this is 4 dimensional chess and trolling, which I highly doubt.

The guy didn't look that great in his last few fights, took a massive layoff and doesn't seem to have a real team around him.

Seems like he's just cashing out.
The team aspect isn't such a big deal. Jones has high fight IQ. He was always the type that could train himself and he was doing so most of his career and just getting coaching and sparring work from Jackson-Wink. It was well known that people would barely see Jones training at the gym and he would just come in to spar most of the time. Jones was doing a lot of training on his own.

He actually regressed once he started training more at Jackson-Wink compared to when he was doing his look-see-do self training. He got molded into a play it safe point-fighter style Jackson-Wink fighter instead.

I'm sure Jones is getting the sparring partners he needs to replicate Gane in some ways as in fighting style and/or physical build for him to train what he wants to do in the fight.

If Jones loses it's simply because Gane is the better fighter at HW at the moment.
 
gane is going to make it look easy, there's plenty that believe in him, just drowned out by the JJ fans <Fedor23>
 
I've been platinum for a while now. But yeah, I got free of the golden shackles yesterday.
Gotcha, glad we're on the same page with the Jones fight too. I thought I might have been going crazy thinking Gane was gonna win with all the people on here saying Jones will win easily.
 
If Gane beat Jones knowing Gane train only one week before a fight it will be hilarious

Kicking the ass of the "GOAT" while not giving a single fuck about training, mma, pressure, fighting, etc
Yup. Shades of Nate coming off vacation to strangle Conor.
 
Comparing Tuivasa and Jon skillwise is like a fat guy who trains MMA for a hobby compared to an average UFC fighter
 
The last guy he outgrappled was a 40 years old LHW Cormier 5 years ago

He did nuthin against Santos or Reyes who are LHW, Reyes could legit fight in Adesanya weightclass BTW

Couldnt take down a one legged Santos lol

Jones will try to get close to Gane to shot a takedown and will get clipped clean by this:

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a wrestling god might be pushing it but any fighter that has managed to turn every fight he's been a part of into a win deserves credit.
 
He fell off which is normal for wrestling, but when he was young he was not a good mma wrestler, he was one of the best all time…
 

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