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Economic Mobility and Productivity vs Wage Comp.

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http://www.heritage.org/research/re...tion-is-keeping-pace-with-rising-productivity

A long read but was wondering your guys opinion on it.

There is a widespread belief in America that productivity is rising but workers are not receiving the fruits of their labor. Citing government data that wages have lagged far behind increases in worker productivity in recent years, many politicians and journalists contend that America is becoming less economically mobile. This mistaken belief is the result of two misunderstandings.

First, it is incorrect to focus on workers' cash income instead of their total compensation. Total compensation includes such increasingly important components of workers' pay as health benefits, contributions to retirement plans, and paid vacations. These and other employer-provided benefits are not cash income, but they do contribute to workers' well-being.

Second, those claiming reduced mobility often use the wrong measure of inflation to calculate inflation-adjusted pay. By using the consumer price index (CPI) instead of the implicit price deflator (IPD), these calculations overstate inflation and understate wage growth. The result of this mistake is that wage growth will almost always appear to lag far behind productivity growth, even when workers are making gains.

When compensation is used instead of income and the correct inflation measure is used to calculate inflation-adjusted compensation, the data show that total compensation has actually increased in tandem with worker productivity. Contrary to the critics' arguments, the data on compensation do not indicate any reduction in economic mobility.



Comparing median wages to average productivity does not necessarily reveal whether workers' pay is rising in step with their productivity, because the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not calculate median productivity growth, only average productivity levels. If productivity growth were concentrated among one group of workers, such as college graduates, those workers' wages would rise. This would cause average wages to rise, but median wages would move little if non-graduates' productivity did not also improve. In this way, comparing average productivity to median wages gives the misleading impression that workers are not receiving the fruits of increased productivity when in fact those workers who have become more productive are earning higher wages.

Recent research suggests that this may be happening. A substantial portion of the increased inequality in America in recent years can be explained by the fact that the use of performance-based pay has increased.[8] Especially productive workers are getting raises that match their productivity. This increases average compensation but has little effect on median pay.

In addition, demographic shifts can skew median family income figures. Divorce rates have risen since the early 1970s. A two-income family with the husband earning $50,000 and the wife working part-time and earning $25,000 has a total family income of $75,000. After a divorce, government statistics would report the couple as two separate families, one with an income of $50,000 and a second with an income of $25,000. A rise in divorce rates or a drop in marriage rates tends to lower median family income, even if wages and salaries remain unchanged.

The Complete Picture: Compensation Has Grown with Productivity

Using the more accurate implicit price deflator to calculate productivity growth and compensation growth reveals that compensation has grown in line with productivity, not lagged, during the past 20 years. Chart 5 shows productivity and compensation growth over the past 20 years, using the IPD to adjust compensation for inflation.



As the chart shows, using the right measure of inflation and looking at total compensation--not just cash income--almost eliminates the difference between compensation growth and productivity growth. Productivity has grown 53 percent since 1987, while real compensation has grown 46 percent. At several points during the late 1990s, compensation growth even exceeded productivity growth.

It is true that productivity has risen somewhat faster than compensation since 2003, but this also happened in the early 1990s and is not an unusual long-term pattern. Wages caught up to productivity in the late 1990s, when low unemployment forced employers to compete for increasingly productive workers. There is every reason to expect a similar outcome in the near future


Conclusion

Workers are not missing out on the fruits of their rising productivity. Compensation appears to have fallen relative to productivity only when analysts, journalists, and politicians use the wrong price index to adjust it for inflation and overlook the difference between cash income and total compensation.

Using the implicit price deflator--the same measure that the government uses to adjust productivity figures for inflation--shows that there is no large gap between compensation growth and productivity growth. It is time for policymakers and others to retire erroneous and misleading measures that suggest that American workers are falling behind and instead present the data and their conclusions honestly and fairly.
 
This has been a major issue in health care and health care cost containment discussions.

Total cost of compensation may have kept up but the part of compensation that the workers directly control is flat.

I agree with the healthcare parts but given the extinction of the pensions I wonder if the retirement "burden" is really bigger or even the same size.
 
I recently discovered what a weasel the author of that study is:

When Heritage wants to make the case that worker compensation has kept up with productivity increases, Heritage focuses on nonwage benefits. (and this dishonesty is aside from the statement of that weasel, Sherk, that 77% is "almost as much" as 100%)



http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/07/productivity-and-compensation-growing-together

When Heritage wants to make the case that unions do not increase workers' overall living standards, Heritage ignores retirement plans, health insurance, and time off, and focuses on wages.

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...not-increase-workers-overall-living-standards

Apples and oranges indeed.

Does he have anything new?

Edit: Sherk says "First, it is incorrect to focus on workers' cash income instead of their total compensation. Total compensation includes such increasingly important components of workers' pay as health benefits, contributions to retirement plans, and paid vacations. These and other employer-provided benefits are not cash income, but they do contribute to workers' "

That's interesting, because focusing on cash income is exactly what Sherk does when he claims unions do not raise private sector union workers' living standards.
 
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First, it is incorrect to focus on workers' cash income instead of their total compensation. Total compensation includes such increasingly important components of workers' pay as health benefits, contributions to retirement plans, and paid vacations. These and other employer-provided benefits are not cash income, but they do contribute to workers' well-being.
Reeks of deflection.
Has anyone been getting better health coverage or retirement benefits over the long run? If not, this is a lame dodge.

2)
I've always heard the CPI understates inflation, which shreds that second claim.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/periann...lation-dont-bother-with-the-cpi/#1855b945118b

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What does measuring compensation methodology have to do with economic mobility? Economic mobility is a relative measure of how you compare to everyone else. If, theoretically, compensation was overstated or understated by a few %, it's not going to have any major impact on measuring mobility.
 
I stopped reading when it argued that non-cash compensation is why wealth inequality is non-sense. It is in fact the main driver outside of the loss of the value in the dollars purchasing power. Millions and millions of jobs used to offer pensions, 100% paid for HC benefits, longer vacations, that do not today.

It is in fact the non-cash compensation where the middle class has lost the most.
 
http://www.heritage.org/research/re...tion-is-keeping-pace-with-rising-productivity

First, it is incorrect to focus on workers' cash income instead of their total compensation. Total compensation includes such increasingly important components of workers' pay as health benefits, contributions to retirement plans, and paid vacations. These and other employer-provided benefits are not cash income, but they do contribute to workers' well-being.

When compensation is used instead of income and the correct inflation measure is used to calculate inflation-adjusted compensation, the data show that total compensation has actually increased in tandem with worker productivity. Contrary to the critics' arguments, the data on compensation do not indicate any reduction in economic mobility.

I'll give you that a lot of total comp has been going toward health insurance, but they weren't counting those figures in the past either - so apples to apples - and on top of that; most people didn't pay or paid very little of their own premiums in the past.

We've also come to a period where most employers aren't offering the same retirement plan as before - now it's all 401k, so employers are paying less than in the past in that area as well.

Also, in what universe is paid vacation not cash income? It's reported on your pay stub as earnings and you're taxed for it.


Comparing median wages to average productivity does not necessarily reveal whether workers' pay is rising in step with their productivity, because the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not calculate median productivity growth, only average productivity levels. If productivity growth were concentrated among one group of workers, such as college graduates, those workers' wages would rise. This would cause average wages to rise, but median wages would move little if non-graduates' productivity did not also improve.


You realize that if the CEO gets a 15% raise of $5 mil that the avg wage would raise, but the median would move very little? I mean they didn't come up with the median wage without reason.



In addition, demographic shifts can skew median family income figures. Divorce rates have risen since the early 1970s. A two-income family with the husband earning $50,000 and the wife working part-time and earning $25,000 has a total family income of $75,000. After a divorce, government statistics would report the couple as two separate families, one with an income of $50,000 and a second with an income of $25,000. A rise in divorce rates or a drop in marriage rates tends to lower median family income, even if wages and salaries remain unchanged.

The Complete Picture: Compensation Has Grown with Productivity

Using the more accurate implicit price deflator to calculate productivity growth and compensation growth reveals that compensation has grown in line with productivity, not lagged, during the past 20 years. Chart 5 shows productivity and compensation growth over the past 20 years, using the IPD to adjust compensation for inflation.


I can't see anything in your graphs and when I click on them, I just get the same picture that I'm seeing here (cllick here to view chart).

I have no idea why the author is talking about household income when SSA actually tracks AWI and the percent increase by year:

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/awidevelop.html

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Pick wich ever graph you want for productivity increase and compare it to the AWI

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http://www.heritage.org/research/re...tion-is-keeping-pace-with-rising-productivity

A long read but was wondering your guys opinion on it.

There is a widespread belief in America that productivity is rising but workers are not receiving the fruits of their labor. Citing government data that wages have lagged far behind increases in worker productivity in recent years, many politicians and journalists contend that America is becoming less economically mobile. This mistaken belief is the result of two misunderstandings.

First, it is incorrect to focus on workers' cash income instead of their total compensation. Total compensation includes such increasingly important components of workers' pay as health benefits, contributions to retirement plans, and paid vacations. These and other employer-provided benefits are not cash income, but they do contribute to workers' well-being.

Second, those claiming reduced mobility often use the wrong measure of inflation to calculate inflation-adjusted pay. By using the consumer price index (CPI) instead of the implicit price deflator (IPD), these calculations overstate inflation and understate wage growth. The result of this mistake is that wage growth will almost always appear to lag far behind productivity growth, even when workers are making gains.

When compensation is used instead of income and the correct inflation measure is used to calculate inflation-adjusted compensation, the data show that total compensation has actually increased in tandem with worker productivity. Contrary to the critics' arguments, the data on compensation do not indicate any reduction in economic mobility.



Comparing median wages to average productivity does not necessarily reveal whether workers' pay is rising in step with their productivity, because the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not calculate median productivity growth, only average productivity levels. If productivity growth were concentrated among one group of workers, such as college graduates, those workers' wages would rise. This would cause average wages to rise, but median wages would move little if non-graduates' productivity did not also improve. In this way, comparing average productivity to median wages gives the misleading impression that workers are not receiving the fruits of increased productivity when in fact those workers who have become more productive are earning higher wages.

Recent research suggests that this may be happening. A substantial portion of the increased inequality in America in recent years can be explained by the fact that the use of performance-based pay has increased.[8] Especially productive workers are getting raises that match their productivity. This increases average compensation but has little effect on median pay.

In addition, demographic shifts can skew median family income figures. Divorce rates have risen since the early 1970s. A two-income family with the husband earning $50,000 and the wife working part-time and earning $25,000 has a total family income of $75,000. After a divorce, government statistics would report the couple as two separate families, one with an income of $50,000 and a second with an income of $25,000. A rise in divorce rates or a drop in marriage rates tends to lower median family income, even if wages and salaries remain unchanged.

The Complete Picture: Compensation Has Grown with Productivity

Using the more accurate implicit price deflator to calculate productivity growth and compensation growth reveals that compensation has grown in line with productivity, not lagged, during the past 20 years. Chart 5 shows productivity and compensation growth over the past 20 years, using the IPD to adjust compensation for inflation.



As the chart shows, using the right measure of inflation and looking at total compensation--not just cash income--almost eliminates the difference between compensation growth and productivity growth. Productivity has grown 53 percent since 1987, while real compensation has grown 46 percent. At several points during the late 1990s, compensation growth even exceeded productivity growth.

It is true that productivity has risen somewhat faster than compensation since 2003, but this also happened in the early 1990s and is not an unusual long-term pattern. Wages caught up to productivity in the late 1990s, when low unemployment forced employers to compete for increasingly productive workers. There is every reason to expect a similar outcome in the near future


Conclusion

Workers are not missing out on the fruits of their rising productivity. Compensation appears to have fallen relative to productivity only when analysts, journalists, and politicians use the wrong price index to adjust it for inflation and overlook the difference between cash income and total compensation.

Using the implicit price deflator--the same measure that the government uses to adjust productivity figures for inflation--shows that there is no large gap between compensation growth and productivity growth. It is time for policymakers and others to retire erroneous and misleading measures that suggest that American workers are falling behind and instead present the data and their conclusions honestly and fairly.

So all is well in this country I assume. Then what the heck is everyone always complaining about? I mean really, their complaining has been affecting me for years. I too feel like shit, eventhough my situation is actually really good on paper. But I cant help, because everyone around is always so miserable. It is all you hear on the news.
 
So all is well in this country I assume. Then what the heck is everyone always complaining about? I mean really, their complaining has been affecting me for years. I too feel like shit, eventhough my situation is actually really good on paper. But I cant help, because everyone around is always so miserable. It is all you hear on the news.
I just asked what you guys thought about the article. I didn't write it.

I don't care about income inequality. I care if the average person who is willing to work and make half way decent decisions an live a decent life (notice I didn't say rich or even well to do).

I also don't get a lot of the income has not risen with productivity argument. Most of that rise in productivity has come from technology. So because there is a machine that can help a burger flipper make 10 more burgers in an hour than back in the day, He should get a huge raise?

Or take my field, I work in a medical lab. We now have machines that can run hundreds of samples an hour compared to back in the day. Is it me being more productive or the machine that the company spent 100,000 on being more productive. Now I don't know the true metric that should be used for pay, but this complaint that people need more money because mostly machines have made things faster, easier and more productive is silly to me.
 
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