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Duterte Harry, Part 1: The rise of Duterte & the shifting sociopolitical climate in the Philippines.

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'Duterte Harry' tipped to win as Philippines heads to the polls
By Jason Gutierrez, for CNN
May 9, 2016

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Manila (CNN) Voters in the Philippines go to the polls Monday after a bruising campaign to lead the Catholic country.

Nearly 55 million of the country's 100 million population have registered to choose not only a new president and deputy, but also to elect half of the Senate, the entire House of Representatives as well as tens of thousands of local posts, from governors, mayor and members of the provincial councils.

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Leading in presidential polls is Rodrigo Duterte, a long-time mayor of the southern city of Davao.

He's a colorful and controversial figure known for his inflammatory comments on a gang rape, his sexual conquests and tough stance on crime.

If elected, he has vowed to execute 100,000 criminals and dump them into Manila Bay.

In his last campaign stump Saturday, Duterte, 71, played his role to the hilt, and again vowed to butcher criminals as he told thousands gathered in central Manila: "Forget the laws of human rights."

"If I make it to the presidential palace, I will do just what I did as mayor. You drug pushers, hold-up men and do-nothings, you better go out. Because as the mayor, I'd kill you," Duterte, said to wild cheers from the throng of supporters.

He has also promised to jail the corrupt, along with rogue members of the police and the military.
His tirades against the country's elite have touched a chord among many Filipinos but he has set alarm bells ringing for rights advocates.

'Duterte Harry?'

In the southern city of Davao, where Duterte has held office for decades, he has long been dogged by allegations of ties to death squads and extrajudicial killings.

The man, who is most comfortable in shirts and jeans, has been dubbed "Duterte Harry" and "The Punisher" by the enamored local press for his exploits.

Carlos Conde, a researcher for Human Rights Watch, said the group had put out a questionnaire to the candidates to ask about their stance on extra-judicial killings. Duterte did not reply.

"We've always raised the concern that the death squads in Davao has ushered in an epidemic of similar death squad-style killings in other cities. HRW documented this particularly in Tagum City, not far from Davao."

"Politicians who popularize death squads as a form of crime control are helping spread this epidemic across the country. At the bottom of this, of course, is the breakdown of rule of law," he told CNN.

He noted that "death squad killings" have a measure of support among the citizenry wary of high crime, but stressed they also breed "lawlessness, corruption and disregard for the rule of law that will spell disaster for the years to come."

'Specter of dictatorship?'

President Benigno Aquino, the son of the country's democracy icons Benigno and Corazon Aquino, was elected in a landslide in 2010, but his popularity has taken a dent in the past two years as crime worsened — even as the economy chugged forward.

Aquino himself called for all the candidates to unite against Duterte, warning of uncertainty and the "specter of dictatorship" if Duterte won.

Duterte faces current Interior Minister Mar Roxas, Aquino's protege who is perceived as bland despite solid credentials; Grace Poe, 47, a popular senator who has been challenged over her citizenship; Jejomar Binay, 73, the country's exiting vice president hounded by accusations of corruption ; and Miriam Defensor Santiago, 70, a veteran lawmaker and legal expert who once contested the presidency in 1992.

A recent poll by polling firm Social Weather Stations has Duterte in the lead, with 33%, followed by Poe at 22% and Roxas at 20%. Binay and Santiago were at 13% and 2%, respectively.

Roxas , 57, said the campaign had been extremely taxing and characterized by mudslinging. He said the Philippines once again was in the world's spotlight, and urged all voters to make the right choice.

"We are here fighting for our future, fighting for the continuation of our way of life," he said Saturday. "No matter what they say, critics cannot deny that the Philippines is now Asia's bright star."

Indeed, the Philippine economy has steadily grown since the early 2000s, earning credit ratings upgrades, with the economy and spending power fueled by the money sent home by the country's army of overseas workers.

On the political and diplomatic front, the government has been feted for standing up to China over a row in the South China Sea.

Protest vote?

Ramon Casiple, a political analyst and head of the Institute for Political and Electoral Reform, said Duterte leads in the polls because choosing him is considered "a protest vote."

"He is a symbol for the people. Nothing happened for many people in the past six years, and he has capitalized on his image as the folk hero here," Casiple told CNN.

He said the electorate were mesmerized at how Duterte continued his attacks on the country's elite, and seemed to care little that he is portrayed, at times, as uncouth.

"Even some in the business elite are intrigued by what he has promised, and the way he proposed to step down as president if he failed to solve crime, traffic, congestion," he said, but cautioned as well that when "moths fly closely into the fire" oftentimes, they get burned.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/08/asia/philippines-election/
 
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Philippines' 'Duterte Harry': the would-be president accused of using vigilante squads

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The maverick mayor’s grin is everywhere – on cars crawling in traffic, on flaking cement walls, and on campaign T-shirts worn by Davao city’s residents. Underneath Rodrigo Duterte’s face is his slogan: “Change is coming.”

Likened to Dirty Harry, a ruthless police inspector played by Clint Eastwood, “Duterte Harry” has drawn scorn from rights groups who accuse him of allowing vigilantes to kill hundreds of suspected criminals.

Also known as “the Punisher”, the 71-year-old who cruises his home town on a motorbike has run a presidential campaign promising to wipe out criminality within six months. The Philippines should build funeral parlours, not prisons, to cope with drug pushers in his time in office, he says.

And, despite incredulity from the political establishment, polls show Duterte is likely to win Monday’s election with a 10-point lead over his rivals. Recent surveys give him 33% in a system where candidates do not need a majority to win – Benigno Aquino won in 2010 with 42%.

With presidents limited to one term of six years, the outgoing incumbent has made an 11th-hour attempt to block Duterte by attempting to gather candidates around his preferred successor, Manuel “Mar” Roxas, the grandson of a former president.

Aquino, who is credited with strong economic growth, says he has contacted the other candidates – senator Grace Poe, the former international criminal court judge Miriam Santiago and the current vice-president, Jejomar Binay – to try to stall Duterte’s lead.

The coastal city of Davao, population 1.5 million, where Duterte has been elected mayor seven times, provides perhaps the most accurate vision of how the country would be run under his leadership.

His detractors say he is dangerous, but supporters laud his principled lifestyle, his modest house and support of LGBT groups, a risky political move in a mainly Catholic country.

As a former prosecutor, Duterte has raised the city’s standing from a haven for criminals to one of the country’s safest cities. Investment and tourism are up.

“The masses dream Duterte can help,” said Artemio Jiménez, who runs one of city’s largest districts, called a barangay, of 200,000 people. Sheltering from the sun under a metal awning in central Davao, he wore a blue and red wristband with “Duterte” written on it and a small yellow symbol of a punching fist.

Having been elected in 1994, he has worked with Duterte throughout his time as mayor and says Davao is a model for the Philippines, with “peace and order as a primary concern”.

When Mayor Rody, as the gun-collecting tough-talker is known locally, first took office in 1988, Davao was tagged the “Nicaragua of Asia”.

While Jiménez denied Duterte was linked to death squads, he said the mayor had a policy of using “peace keepers” – volunteers who “roam around during day and night” and clean up the city’s crime problems.

“Duterte doesn’t want a ‘son of a gun’ or a ‘naughty naughty’,” he said. “Even as a barangay captain, I will kill a son of a gun. Those who are thieves or rapists, if I caught them in an actual criminal offence.

“What would you do if your sister was raped?” he asked.

The city, once a hotspot for fighting between communist rebels and security forces, is a bastion of support for Duterte. A survey by Ateneo de Davao University showed he has the backing of 88% of the city’s voters, while percentages for the rest of the presidential candidates were “insignificant”.

Duterte’s daughter, who briefly took the mayoralty from her father in 2010, is almost guaranteed to return to city hall if he becomes president. His son is already vice-mayor.

“They idolise him,” says Amado Picardal, a priest who has spent the past two decades documenting death squad attacks, which he says have killed 1,424 people, 132 of them minors.

The former spokesperson of Davao’s Coalition Against Summary Execution said a Duterte presidency “would be a period of great uncertainty and instability”.

“His programme would be the elimination of criminality. At the core of this is the use of extrajudicial killings,” he said. “It was already done in Davao, the so-called peace and order. It will continue.”

In 2009, Human Rights Watch released a report calling for the Philippines to dismantle highly organised vigilante gangs it said were directly linked to government officials and police.

The victims, many of them petty criminals or street children, were killed by men in baseball caps who rode motorbikes with no licence plates. Targets were often warned in advance by police that their names were on a list.

The mayor had warned that criminals were a “legitimate target of assassination” and Human Rights Watch said some victims had been killed after Duterte himself announced their names on local television.

Duterte has at times denied links to death squads while also making contradictory statements that he either condones or is even part of the vigilante group.

Residents have brushed off criticism, saying Duterte distributed policing power to local communities.

A merchant mariner said Davao’s Muslim, Christian and indigenous populations were allowed to “deal with their own problems, including criminals” to prevent sectarian anger from outside interference. He said criminals finally got the message when syndicate figures were shot dead immediately after their release from prison.

Another resident, 53-year-old Pedro Corsiga, said “before there was criminality, a lot of chaos in the city”. He sat in a car park in Davao with other supporters of Duterte who wore T-shirts bearing the message “No to drugs. No to criminality. No to corruption”.

Duterte is popular nationwide because many like his quick-fix promises to deal with the country’s problems. Slow-pace reform has led to distrust of the political elite.

For example, the other four candidates, all of them measured politicians, have proposed detailed policies to deal with a territorial dispute with Beijing over atolls in the South China Sea.

Mayor Duterte, instead, has promised to jet-ski to a contested island and raise the flag of the Philippines.

But most worrying for Duterte’s opponents are his threats to abolish congress or create a revolutionary government. As with many of his statements, it was not clear if the comments were in made in jest or seriousness, causing ripples of fear in a country that pride itself on ousting late dictator Ferdinand Marcos.

Tom Pepinsky, a south-east Asia analyst at Cornell University, says Duterte’s popularity suggests “he will not face opposition to a more vigorous law-and-order campaign”.

Pepinsky warns: “The parallels to Ferdinand Marcos, who also was elected in democratic elections and exploited elite and middle-class distress about chronic political instability in the early 1970s before declaring martial law, are troubling.”

Yet Duterte is harder to define than the caricature his profanity-laced public speeches present.

Data from Davao city hall, where Duterte has surrounded himself with technocrats and policy wonks, show imports and exports rising and tourist arrivals doubling since 2010.

His campaign team says behind Duterte’s rough campaign speeches there is a team of thoughtful policymakers. Eurasia Group, a global risk research firm, said Duterte is likely to develop infrastructure.

When arriving at Davao airport, flight crew remind passengers it is a no-smoking city, the first in the country, and Davao was also the first Philippine city to operate an effective 911 call centre.

Known to drive a taxi incognito around Davao, Duterte converted a large villa into a live-in chemotherapy centre as hospitals were too crowded for patient’s families to stay for long periods of time.

His demagogic rise has drawn comparisons to Donald Trump, but Duterte considers the latter a bigot. And in 2012 the mayor passed landmark legislation for an office he set up to expand support for LGBT rights.

Lorna Mandin, the officer in charge of the department deep inside city hall, said the mayor heard the LGBT community was suffering and leaned on the “traditionally conservative” city council to pass the anti-discrimination law.

“He has a human rights perspective,” Mandin said as her colleagues wrote women’s rights slogans on large placards, their latest education drive.

Key to the programme is Norman Baloro, a public servant who runs an annual Christmas pageant for the LGBT community where partygoers dress up “as Cinderella or Barbie”.

Duterte attends every year, Baloro says, and also provides gifts for the raffle. “He gave 100 televisions, 150 cellphones, rice cookers, gas stoves,” Baloro said. “He doesn’t want the LGBT community left behind.”

Local love has gone national, with Duterte’s poll numbers far ahead of Poe, a businesswoman who has run her campaign on economic policy. She and Aquino’s favourite, Roxas, are tied second in polls.

The mayor’s imminent entry to high office has led to warnings from senior politicians of an overthrow.

When Senator Antonio Trillanes, a former navy officer who led two failed mutinies, was asked if Duterte’s win could lead to a return to coup plots, he replied: “Let’s just say it’s found to be very easy to recruit people for such military intervention and I believe people will be longing and clamouring for that.”

And on Wednesday Aquino had warned that the country’s hard-earned democracy was under threat. “Now that we are free,” he said, “people who act like dictators are the ones in the lead.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ld-be-president-accused-of-using-death-squads
 
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What is happening to my beloved country?​

SINGAPORE—“May mas malaki tayong kalaban… ang ating sarili (We have a greater enemy… ourselves),” declared Heneral Luna.

I no longer recognize my country. An inexplicable wave of anger and disenchantment has swept it. The 2016 elections have brought out the worst in the Filipino.

The National Union of Journalists of the Philippines (NUJP) decried “frenzies of hatred” and a “‘pattern of harassments’ perpetrated by supporters of poll frontrunner Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte,” the Inquirer reported.
After ABS-CBN aired the anti-Duterte ad featuring children, the NUJP reported how staff were “cursed,” “harassed” and “thrown punches.” Reporter Jacque Manabat posted: “A man with a child approached me and said: ‘Taga-ABS-CBN ka, ’di ba? P—– ina mo!’”

Climate advocate Renee Karunungan filed cybercrime charges. Twenty persons threatened her online: Mamatay ka sana. Ma-rape ka sana. Ma-massacre sana pamilya mo (I hope you die. I hope you get raped. I hope your family gets massacred). She had posted a meme: “Duterte is a lazy choice.”

Strikingly, her lawyer is University of the Philippines law professor JJ Disini, who led the Disini case against the cybercrime law.

A gender rights scholar, just accepted into one of the world’s most prestigious universities, described to me how she received rape threats over a Facebook post. She is thinking of never coming home.

An anti-Duterte friend posted a video of vice presidentiable Leni Robredo and her daughters. Reacting to Duterte’s rape joke, he joked Duterte wanted to rape one of her daughters next. He immediately admitted he was not thinking straight anymore.

UP freshman Stephen Villena received anonymous death threats, including mock photos of his tombstone, after interrupting Duterte in a UP forum. Students told me they no longer felt safe in their own school—in UP, where not even martial law stifled free speech!

In UP!

And friends of all leanings are understandably unnerved at seeing children deployed to the political frontline in the anti-Duterte ad.

Even citizenship itself is attacked viciously. How can one attack Grace Poe’s husband as a foreigner when he was born to Filipino parents, albeit in the United States? During Poe’s case, people vocally proposed rules that would restrict the residency of returning Filipinos or our dual citizenship law.

Most of all, I lament how law has been reduced to a cheap parlor trick.

Bank secrecy waivers became the latest campaign fashion. Last week, I wrote that these are at best symbolic. Duterte signed a promise to make a waiver. But after stating his Bank of the Philippine Islands account held “a little less than 200 million,” he refused to sign a waiver.

“Sampalan ng passbook sa BPI Julia Vargas” featured a request for an unusual bank certificate instead of a waiver. The half-page request was waved in front of TV cameras.

Roughly half our newspapers and news websites failed to make clear that Duterte did not sign a bank secrecy waiver. Some inadvertently implied BPI prevented any disclosure.

Interaksyon ran, inaccurately: “Duterte grants lawyer power to open BPI bank account in Julia Vargas branch.” Business Mirror ran: “Bank seeks time to release records of Duterte accounts.” GMA News Online ran: “Duterte lawyer: Up to BPI to open account.”

How else can a lawyer feel when he sees a half-page document waved on TV while a lawyer says words that contradict its text, and media focus on what he said instead of how the words on paper say the opposite?

He feels like Pilosopo Tasyo, consigned to writing in hieroglyphics for future generations to decipher. No one even compared the half-page’s wording to presidentiables Mar Roxas’ and Poe’s waivers.

And not only do we have fake news, we now have partisan pages for fake law.

GMA News reported Duterte is “planning to form a revolutionary government” and jettison the Constitution. Former UP Law dean Pacifico Agabin, one of the country’s greatest constitutional scholars, as though lecturing children, reacted, “If the executive and the legislative powers are concentrated in one person, that is a dictatorship.”

If we are not shocked at ourselves, foreigners are. A Singaporean taxi driver teased me: “You Filipino? You have your own Trump!” An American Republican friend forwarded Bloomberg’s story: “Mad Max Meets Trump.”

We can laugh off many things as par for the political circus, such as the last-minute plunder case against Duterte or the rumor that Poe’s husband is a US spy. However, should not death threats, rape threats, threats to close Congress a la martial law, and children used as media attack dogs push us to be Filipinos first and partisans second?

Our society brushed all these off, one after the other.

After sampalan, we are now scheduling May 10 Facebook events for group hugs and refriending everyone unfriended over political posts. But we cannot simply forget the horrible side of the Filipino we have seen, no matter how notoriously short our memories are.
Only 30 years ago, the Filipino’s most fervent dream was to vote freely again. Did our parents stand at Edsa so we could see death threats against students? Is Filipino pride telling a woman one hopes she gets raped? Should law students burn their books and begin memorizing lines from “House of Cards”?

Since my toddler self watched my parents walk out of our living room and to Edsa in 1986, I believed that the collective wisdom of democracy is the best form of government. I sincerely hope I wake up tomorrow still believing this.

Too many friends now quote not Heneral Luna, but Queen Padmé Amidala: “So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.”


http://opinion.inquirer.net/94670/happening-beloved-country
 
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I read that the philippines is the most corrupt democracy in the world ahead of number 2 Mexico.
 
Why Filipinos Are Voting for a New ‘Dictator’
By MIGUEL SYJUCO
MAY 6, 2016

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MANILA — A carnival-like atmosphere has descended on this country ahead of the presidential election on Monday: dancing showgirls at campaign events, candidates inviting one another to “slap me,” and reports of cash distributed in exchange for cheers. The Philippine system of government, inherited from our American colonizers, is unique, with its raucous collection of political parties based not on ideology but on personality.

Five candidates are running for president and six more for vice president, who is elected separately. But real choice is scarce. Most politicians come from among a few dozen familiar dynasties that have ruled the country for the last two generations. The economy is booming, but corruption and cronyism, inequality and poverty remain chronic.

Many Filipinos are fed up. That’s why they are turning to candidates who promise an iron fist or a return to the glory days of a dictatorial past.
The front-runner for the presidency is Rodrigo Duterte, the tough-talking mayor of Davao, the Philippines’ third-largest city. He threatens to dissolve Congress and impose a “revolutionary government” if his reforms meet resistance. “I am a dictator? Yes, it is true.” he said. He also vows that if he is elected he will end crime in six months. “If I fail, kill me,” he said.

Meanwhile, many voters have been misled by nostalgic tales of the dictatorship of Ferdinand E. Marcos, who ruled from 1965 to 1986. His son, Ferdinand Marcos Jr., known as Bongbong, a senator, is leading the race for vice president and taking advantage of the short memory in a country where the median age is 23. “I am a beneficiary of the good work that was done in my father’s time,” said Mr. Marcos, who praises his father, the ousted strongman, as the country’s best president.

The years after Philippine democracy was restored in 1986 were a time of festive optimism. My family, like many others, returned from exile abroad, excited by a new elected government and a new Constitution. But since then, the hope has faded thanks to a succession of discredited presidents and, moreover, the incompetence of a resurgent oligarchy.

Of this year’s five presidential candidates, three are backed by the wealthy Cojuangco family, which has influenced politics for the last four decades. One candidate is the grandson of a president, another a former mayor who established a dynasty that is accused of being grossly corrupt, while the third is a neophyte senator allied with a president who was ousted for plunder.

Some economists estimate that 40 of the Philippines’ richest families control 76 percent of gross domestic product. Senator Miriam Santiago, who promoted an unsuccessful anti-dynasty bill, said 178 dynasties ran the country’s politics, with 73 of the nation’s 80 provinces ruled by clans. The Center for People Empowerment in Governance, a think tank, found that roughly 80 percent of the 229 congressional seats were controlled by dynastic politicians.

It’s little wonder that many Filipinos now question the value of democracy.

Mr. Duterte is polling 11 points ahead of his closest rival and has the support of one in three Filipinos. He presents himself as a simple man fed up with the system, vowing to fix the nation at all costs. He has been linked to more than 1,000 extra-legal executions of petty criminals during his time as mayor. Not only has he admitted to supporting the killings, he has promised that as president he will “turn the 1,000 into 100,000” and dump their bodies in Manila Bay and “fatten all the fish there.”

Mr. Duterte’s campaign symbol is a fist — intended for lawbreakers, but seemingly also aimed at the oligarchy. “He is the only man who offers radical change,” said one of the many petitions urging him last year to run for president. The message resonates with the frustrated poor who feel let down by the government, but his fans span all classes. Mock elections at universities consistently pick him as the winner, while a chamber of commerce of wealthy Filipino-Chinese business leaders lauded him as “the man who gets things done.”

This image as a brash, no-nonsense leader explains why nothing he says is able to damage him. He repeatedly described a rival using a homophobic slur. He called Pope Francis “a son of a whore.” He told human-rights groups to “go to hell.” He joked that he should have been first in the gang rape of an Australian missionary. “That’s how men speak,” Mr. Duterte explained. “I am not a son of the privileged class.” His supporters, who often threaten his critics on social media with death and rape threats, defended him with an offensive, but telling, rhetorical question: How can people get so upset at a rape joke when politicians have been raping the country for so long?

Mr. Duterte has energized Filipinos in a historic way. One of his slogans is “change is coming.” It’s the exactly right message from the completely wrong messenger. His and Mr. Marcos’s campaigns are fueled by frustration, but other candidates offer reason and hope: Leni Robredo, a vice-presidential candidate who recently overtook Mr. Marcos, has surged thanks to her advocacy for gender equality. Walden Bello, a former student radical who is now a respected academic, has been lauded locally and internationally for his integrity and democratic activism in the Legislature.

Filipinos should look to such politicians for inspiration. But they should also look to themselves. As Jose Rizal, our hero of national independence, once wrote, “There are no tyrants where there are no slaves.”

For my whole life I’ve witnessed a tendency among Filipinos to elect people who pose as saviors. We long for a disciplinarian, but meanwhile we squabble among ourselves, willingly pay bribes and flout rules. We choose candidates based on regional ties or entertaining personalities. All of us recognize that our government, dominated by an oligarchy, is severely broken — but we need to select leaders who will educate and empower us to fix it ourselves. More, real, democracy is necessary, not less.

Outside the headquarters of the Philippine National Police, a sign declares: “This is your police. We serve and protect.” Continued, in red spray paint, is scrawled: “… the ruling class.” Whoever wrote it voices what so many feel. Only the people themselves can change that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/opinion/why-filipinos-are-voting-for-a-new-dictator.html
 
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Orgasmo said:
By sanctioning vigilantes to carry out extra-judicial killings without trial? No thanks.
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It may not be perfect, but at least you save a lot of the money wasting criminal coddling nonsense that North America resorts to. Criminals will not act so tough when they know they will be hunted down like a wild animal and sent straight to hell for committing criminal acts.

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Duterte has support of the Communist Party of the Philippines and is pro-NPA (the armed wing of the CPP). He dared the Australian and US ambassadors to sever ties with the Philippines, called the Pope a son-of-a-b*tch, and bad-mouthed Mexico during a speech while the Mexican ambassador was unknowingly in the audience. He also wants to resort to bilateral negotiations with China (aka dealing with the Chinese one-on-one) instead of continuing the multilateral approach of getting the support of the US, Japan, Australia, and other ASEAN members to confront China's ridiculous territorial claims as one group.

Duterte wants to implement death squads on a macro level, meaning groups of blood-thirsty vigilantes will be roaming the slums of Manila laying waste to anybody they suspect is a criminal, all without due process. What a time to be alive in the Philippines.
 
Also the vice-president might very well be the son of Ferdinand Marcos, one of the biggest plunderers of the 20th century. Marcos Sr. stole upwards of $10 billion during his reign from 1965-1986, most of it still unaccounted for, and he tortured and imprisoned thousands of detractors during the latter years of his presidency when Martial Law was declared and the Philippines was essentially a dictatorship. This was all supported by the Americans by the way, who needed to ensure that the Philippines stay communist-free during the 1970s. The Marcos family was even permitted by the CIA to escape to Hawaii with their stolen riches after Ferdinand was forcibly removed from power by the citizens.

Marcos Jr. denies any atrocities or theft committed by his family, and most of the stolen loot is hidden in secret bank accounts. And he is the most popular candidate for the second highest political seat in the land.
 
The Filipino Trump right there.

Actually, he might be tougher!
 
If elected, he has vowed to execute 100,000 criminals and dump them into Manila Bay.

"Forget the laws of human rights."

"If I make it to the presidential palace, I will do just what I did as mayor. You drug pushers, hold-up men and do-nothings, you better go out. Because as the mayor, I'd kill you."

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I'd vote for him.
 
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'The mayor had warned that criminals were a “legitimate target of assassination” and Human Rights Watch said some victims had been killed after Duterte himself announced their names on local television.'

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What a time to be alive in the Philippines.
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From where I'm standing, it's further proof that people really do get the government they deserves.

During that 30 long years of Democracy, they repeatedly voted for one corrupted crony after another in exchange for cash, from the provincial to the national level, knowing full well what they are getting. The Filipino standard of living do get better every year, just not nearly as good as those "civil servant" they hired for the job who quickly become multi-millionaires by plundering public funds, and because of the competition for a piece of that pie, "political assassinations" actually means exactly what it means in the Philippines, where a drive-by hit with guanrateed results is often done for less than $500.

Now they've suddenly decided that selling their votes to get $100 per family in a corrupted cronyism Democracy is not their thing, so they're appointing a modern-day dictator/vigilante/communist to lead the revolution to destroy the current system that they helped built.

Even if it means giving up the Liberty that their parents fought tooth and nail for during the time of Ferdinand Marcos. "Duterte Harry" has already promised ahead of the election that as President, he would dissolve Congress by force if they don't do legislate the laws he wants. It's unknown if he plans to do that with the help from his death squad, because the police and the military hate his vigilante ass. But they, too, can be bought with a simple pay raise.

Even if it means the Philippines will go separate way from the United States (whom he hates), and destroy the relations with all the other allies (like Japan and Australia) that have improved tremendously these past couple of years in order to combat the Chinese invasion in the South China Sea.

Even if it means the Philippines will cozy with Communist China (whom he likes), and potentially giving up the islands that the Chinese want to steal.

Even if it means members of the communist insurgency from the south (whom he openly sympathises with) will be allowed to hold government posts instead of being thrown in jail for the crimes they have conmitted.

Even if means the death squads' extra-judicial killings in the Philippines, with utter disregard to the court of law, will be ten folds what it is now.

The people of the Philippines understand all these when they're heading to the poll, so if he wins the President office and proceed to do everything that he promises to do, that's EXACTLY what the people wanted. No Filipino can act like they're surprised once the Chinese-friendly, anti-American, communist-oriented revolution begins from within their government.

The next few months will be very interesting in South East Asia. Much more interesting than this side of the Pacific, I think.
 
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@ShinkanPo is this guy the commie you were talking about? That's a shame because he does seem pretty badass, aside from the commie stuff.
 
Rex Kwon Do said:
@ShinkanPo is this guy the commie you were talking about? That's a shame because he does seem pretty badass, aside from the commie stuff.
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Yes this is the commie guy I have been talking about,

Election day today

Seriously I am really scared for the future of my country if this man is elected to actually make me lose sleep last night knowing that the next day could the start of a pointless revolution.

If this guy wins it could be a disaster he is Anti-American he is willing to make deals with the Chinese and he wants to ban the use of computers for the National police as he believes computers are evil and his supporters the Dutertards or let say the DuterTurds agreed with him some even saying that the Philippines should not rely on technology like computers since these are "western inventions" and that its bad for Nationalism.

I bet this Duterte guy wants a controlled internet in the future here like in China.

He may seem a good choice because of his stance against criminality but he is just making that all up to hide his dictatorial ambitions, the people love him because they think he is a bad ass for killing criminals as you know criminality is in all time high in the Philippines, there is currently a serial rapist going around carjacking cab drivers and using the cab later to pick up women and rape them, criminals are even working at the airport planting shit on unsuspecting tourist and then extorting them and the current administration has done nothing and even played down the mess.

This is why the People think Duterte is the man to do the Job but what many Filipinos don't know is Duterte is probably a Chinese communist agent, and I think a lot of the urban poor does not even know what communism means.

His supporters also has a false sense of Nationalism they think the Philippine allegiance to the United States is a cause for shame they want US forces out of the country they think it infringes the sovereignty of the country, what they don't know is in the event the Philippines becomes a communist anti US state, we are going to sink fast into a hell hole and end up like some Venezuela or worst.


This people don't want to use their brains they think that a country can stand alone they don't realize that by removing the status quo things good get really bad there will be millions of unemployed foreign trade will stop etc.


This guy is a jack ass, he said he will removed the congress or even the senate and create a "revolutionary government"

Oh this creep even made a joke about the rape and murder of an Australian missionary.

Philippine Presidential Candidate Criticized For Rape 'Joke'

Rodrigo Duterte, a presidential candidate in the Philippines, is notoriously blunt, even crude. But critics say he crossed a line when he apparently joked about a rape and murder in 1989, commenting that the victim was beautiful and as mayor he "should have been first" when men took turns raping her.

Duterte has said it was a comment made in anger, not in jest. He did not apologize.

Duterte is an outsize political figure in Davao City, where he has served seven terms as mayor, as well as stints as vice mayor and congressional representative. When term limits kicked him out of office, his daughter took over the mayorship; now Duterte is back in office.
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Space said:
The Filipino Trump right there.

Actually, he might be tougher!
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The comparison is unfair for Trump Duterte is a buffoon.

He is the type that will just execute his political opponents, If I was not able to post starting July this year you know that the Philippines has turned into complete shit hole of the 4th world kind we are probably back to the stone age.
 
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ShinkanPo said:
Yes this is the commie guy I have been talking about,

Election day today

Seriously I am really scared for the future of my country if this man is elected to actually make me lose sleep last night knowing that the next day could the start of a pointless revolution.

If this guy wins it could be a disaster he is Anti-American he is willing to make deals with the Chinese and he wants to ban the use of computers for the National police as he believes computers are evil and his supporters the Dutertards or let say the DuterTurds agreed with him some even saying that the Philippines should not rely on technology like computers since these are "western inventions" and that its bad for Nationalism.

I bet this Duterte guy wants a controlled internet in the future here like in China.

He may seem a good choice because of his stance against criminality but he is just making that all up to hide his dictatorial ambitions, the people love him because they think he is a bad ass for killing criminals as you know criminality is in all time high in the Philippines, there is currently a serial rapist going around carjacking cab drivers and using the cab later to pick up women and rape them, criminals are even working at the airport planting shit on unsuspecting tourist and then extorting them and the current administration has done nothing and even played down the mess.

This is why the People think Duterte is the man to do the Job but what many Filipinos don't know is Duterte is probably a Chinese communist agent, and I think a lot of the urban poor does not even know what communism means.

His supporters also has a false sense of Nationalism they think the Philippine allegiance to the United States is a cause for shame they want US forces out of the country they think it infringes the sovereignty of the country, what they don't know is in the event the Philippines becomes a communist anti US state, we are going to sink fast into a hell hole and end up like some Venezuela or worst.


This people don't want to use their brains they think that a country can stand alone they don't realize that by removing the status quo things good get really bad there will be millions of unemployed foreign trade will stop etc.


This guy is a jack ass, he said he will removed the congress or even the senate and create a "revolutionary government"

Oh this creep even made a joke about the rape and murder of an Australian missionary.

Philippine Presidential Candidate Criticized For Rape 'Joke'






The comparison is unfair for Trump Duterte is a buffoon.

He is the type that will just execute his political opponents, If was not able to post starting July this year you know that the Philippines has turned into complete shit hole of the 4th world kind we are probably back to the stone age.
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Oh wow, thanks for all the info. In that case, fuck him. Damaging the US-Filipino relationship would be incredibly stupid. If he thinks an alliance with the US is parasitic to the Philippines, he'd be in for a rude awakening if he invited China in.

I wonder if he is a Chinese agent like you implied...
 
Rex Kwon Do said:
Oh wow, thanks for all the info. In that case, fuck him. Damaging the US-Filipino relationship would be incredibly stupid. If he thinks an alliance with the US is parasitic to the Philippines, he'd be in for a rude awakening if he invited China in.

I wonder if he is a Chinese agent like you implied...
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He is incredibly stupid maybe he thinks China is that all powerful country that can provide Jobs and foreign aid to the Philippines the voters should take a look whats happening in some African countries supported by China now, they need to see what is the living standards in North Korea and Venezuela.

I am a pragmatist in making allegiances even if its true that the US - Firipin relations is some what parasitic as these communist fuckers claim, as long as the good ole USA is the number one democracy with the greatest Military and economy on earth I want my country to have ties with the United States and her allies.





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This thread is good and interesting I have been planning on making a thread about Duterte but I thought the Sherdog people of the War room will not be interested in Island shit hole Politics.


And this topic is kinda toxic for me cause it brings anxiety lol,

Actually I can't sleep last night thinking about today's election. So after breakfast today tried getting a good nap and found this thread after I woke up and I got triggered lol.
 
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