Dustin is better than conor, people need to accept that.

Dustin been in there grinding at a good gym and fighting/beating top-flight competition while Mac is out spending days on a yacht with his twitter thumbs.

Cant be a better fighter doing the latter of the two
 
Blazmo said:
You think Conor is in his prime now despite his inactivity and most of his best moments in MMA happening years ago?
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Inactivity isn't anybody's fault but his. When was he in his prime? 2016?lol right before smoking eddie he went life and death with diaz, gassed in the second and ran from diaz with his back turned in the third. No more excuses. Dustin is better. Simple. He beat a bigger, smarter, more powerful mcgregor.
 
Kono dio da! said:
Inactivity isn't anybody's fault but his. When was he in his prime? 2016?lol right before smoking eddie he went life and death with diaz, gassed in the second and ran from diaz with his back turned in the third. No more excuses. Dustin is better. Simple. He beat a bigger, smarter, more powerful mcgregor.
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He beat Eddie who went on to be the first man to finish Gaethje and hadn't been finished in the UFC before Conor and he also beat Nate Diaz convincingly at Nate's strong point after gassing in their first match which he took on short notice and at a higher weight class. And of course, HE BEAT POIRIER and then Jose Aldo pre-2016. From 2016 onwards Conor had 6 fights while Dustin had 12. That's literally twice as many and against far better opposition than Conor. I know people were counting Dustin out in his latest fight but that's purely due to Conor's pre-2020 record as should be obvious to anyone who doesn't start foaming at the mouth at the mere mention of Mcgregor.
 
Dustin Poirier is a better 155lb fighter than Conor Mcgregor. His track record proves it, Conor is a better at 145lbs. At this current time in the stages in both their careers Poirier is just much better.
 
Blazmo said:
He beat Eddie who went on to be the first man to finish Gaethje and hadn't been finished in the UFC before Conor and he also beat Nate Diaz convincingly at Nate's strong point after gassing in their first match which he took on short notice and at a higher weight class. And of course, HE BEAT POIRIER and then Jose Aldo pre-2016. From 2016 onwards Conor had 6 fights while Dustin had 12. That's literally twice as many and against far better opposition than Conor. I know people were counting Dustin out in his latest fight but that's purely due to Conor's pre-2020 record as should be obvious to anyone who doesn't start foaming at the mouth at the mere mention of Mcgregor.
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Look, whether eddie had been finished before IN THE UFC, is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is he had been finished before in his career. And note cowboy beat him. Cowboy ALWAYS loses to elite fighters, but Eddie is the one elite fighter he was able to beat.

Your claim about beating diaz convincingly was laughable at best. What part of that fight did you not comprehend? Were you high when you watched it? What? He destroyed nate in rd1, part if round 2 and then gassed the exact same way and got destroyed. It got worse in rd3. Name another fighter who ran away from his opponent, with his back turned, whilst not even being under fire? He started running away as soon as nate advanced towards him at certain spots. That's how pathetic he looked. The fact that nate had him in that position and still lost shows you how mediocre nate is.
Sure he beat aldo. That was a fluke. If it wasn't he would've offered him a rematch. Sure he beat dustin... Before his prime. Max was a kid as well. I don't even think rush was born. Meanwhile conor was a two division champ. Mendes... Two weeks notice. Chose mendes over in shape edgar, but he'll "fight anyone any time" right?
Refused to defend both belts. Ducked both divisions. Dustin is better. Conor is not that guy. Never was. Ufc embellished him and kept him out of harm's way. If he had to earn it like others, fight contenders, defend belts etc, someone would've taken him out by now.

Stop lying to yourself. Gaethje slaughters him, as would oliveira, khabib again, felder and even rda. Why else did he choose cowboy for his comeback fight?
 
He is the better fighter and has been for a couple of years now. I expected him to win though I thought it would be 2 or 3 rounds later

Conor had made some improvements since their first fight but hasn’t addressed any of the holes in his game.
Poirier has made far larger improvements than Conor and is so well rounded.
 
Kono dio da! said:
Look, whether eddie had been finished before IN THE UFC, is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is he had been finished before in his career. And note cowboy beat him. Cowboy ALWAYS loses to elite fighters, but Eddie is the one elite fighter he was able to beat.

Your claim about beating diaz convincingly was laughable at best. What part of that fight did you not comprehend? Were you high when you watched it? What? He destroyed nate in rd1, part if round 2 and then gassed the exact same way and got destroyed. It got worse in rd3. Name another fighter who ran away from his opponent, with his back turned, whilst not even being under fire? He started running away as soon as nate advanced towards him at certain spots. That's how pathetic he looked. The fact that nate had him in that position and still lost shows you how mediocre nate is.
Sure he beat aldo. That was a fluke. If it wasn't he would've offered him a rematch. Sure he beat dustin... Before his prime. Max was a kid as well. I don't even think rush was born. Meanwhile conor was a two division champ. Mendes... Two weeks notice. Chose mendes over in shape edgar, but he'll "fight anyone any time" right?
Refused to defend both belts. Ducked both divisions. Dustin is better. Conor is not that guy. Never was. Ufc embellished him and kept him out of harm's way. If he had to earn it like others, fight contenders, defend belts etc, someone would've taken him out by now.

Stop lying to yourself. Gaethje slaughters him, as would oliveira, khabib again, felder and even rda. Why else did he choose cowboy for his comeback fight?
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Cowboy didn't finish Eddie though, which was my whole point. And the fact of the matter is just about everyone who saw the second fight between Conor and Nate and wasn't a Nate fanboy thought he won that. When all you have to criticise about Conor's performance is some highly subjective 'HE WAS RUNNING AWAY T_T' BS that just about every fighter has done at some point that shows you how decisive it was. Nate is mediocre, but he typically beats strikers such as Michael Johnson who KO'd Poirier not long after he lost to Nate in a stand-up affair. Conor took on Nate at his own game and beat him handily, something no other fighter has done. And he beat Aldo in the exact manner he predicted he would, which shows it wasn't a fluke and while Conor has declined since then I think Aldo has too and Conor beats him even if they rematch today and especially when he was in his prime. You say Conor beat Dustin and Max out of their primes but if beating Aldo in less than a minute and Chad Mendes who was coming off a competitive rematch with Aldo and a TKO win over prime Lamas doesn't count as someone's prime then what in God's name does? BTW I think all those guys you listed could beat Conor now but that's solely due to the fact he's no longer in his prime, a fact you seem desperate to avoid acknowledging.
 
Blazmo said:
Cowboy didn't finish Eddie though, which was my whole point. And the fact of the matter is just about everyone who saw the second fight between Conor and Nate and wasn't a Nate fanboy thought he won that. When all you have to criticise about Conor's performance is some highly subjective 'HE WAS RUNNING AWAY T_T' BS that just about every fighter has done at some point that shows you how decisive it was. Nate is mediocre, but he typically beats strikers such as Michael Johnson who KO'd Poirier not long after he lost to Nate in a stand-up affair. Conor took on Nate at his own game and beat him handily, something no other fighter has done. And he beat Aldo in the exact manner he predicted he would, which shows it wasn't a fluke and while Conor has declined since then I think Aldo has too and Conor beats him even if they rematch today and especially when he was in his prime. You say Conor beat Dustin and Max out of their primes but if beating Aldo in less than a minute and Chad Mendes who was coming off a competitive rematch with Aldo and a TKO win over prime Lamas doesn't count as someone's prime then what in God's name does? BTW I think all those guys you listed could beat Conor now but that's solely due to the fact he's no longer in his prime, a fact you seem desperate to avoid acknowledging.
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Dude. No just no. It was a majority decision. Nothing convincing at all.
Aldo fluke. Like i said, why didn't he offer him a rematch? Mendes was a G, but he explicitly said he was out of shape and edgar begged for that fight. Why did he pick mendes then? You mention Michael Johnson, what's his career been like since the dustin loss? Wasn't johnson also coming off a loss before nate? And back to the nate thing. Yeah damn right I'll parrot that point because nobody and i mean nobody has ever turned their back and run from their opponent in the centre of the octagon before. When jones and others do it, it's usually to escape the corner. Conor is still in his prime. Dustin is just better. Get over it.
 
Tldr

You do know their 1-1, right?
 
Kono dio da! said:
Dude. No just no. It was a majority decision. Nothing convincing at all.
Aldo fluke. Like i said, why didn't he offer him a rematch? Mendes was a G, but he explicitly said he was out of shape and edgar begged for that fight. Why did he pick mendes then? You mention Michael Johnson, what's his career been like since the dustin loss? Wasn't johnson also coming off a loss before nate? And back to the nate thing. Yeah damn right I'll parrot that point because nobody and i mean nobody has ever turned their back and run from their opponent in the centre of the octagon before. When jones and others do it, it's usually to escape the corner. Conor is still in his prime. Dustin is just better. Get over it.
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The reason it was a majority decision was because one of the judges scored a Nate round 10-8 which even Diaz fans found absurd. And your point about Aldo is just stupid. Why not just say every match is a fluke unless everyone fights each other three times or more? Conor didn't offer Aldo a rematch because he wanted to move up into bigger and better things like any fighter would and felt he had nothing to prove at 145 which he didn't. I mean, Conor even predicted the exact way in which he would win and so far you haven't said anything to contradict this because all you can do is mindlessly assert that Conor/Aldo was a fluke because at the end of the day there is nothing you can do to prove otherwise. And Johnson was robbed hard in his fight with Dariush which is the fight he 'lost' just before his fight with Nate so that doesn't take away from his performance at all. Again, Conor was able to beat Nate at his own game in a fight nobody tries to fight with Nate. Let's say Conor did run in that fight, which as I pointed out before, is something plenty of fighters, even juiced-up Jon Jones, does. Who cares? It obviously worked or he wouldn't have won. It really is that simple. You also claim Conor is in his prime now even though he's OLDER yet you argue Dustin wasn't in his prime when he first fought Conor even though he was YOUNGER then and already several fights into his UFC career. Do you truly not understand how absurd that argument is? It's obvious to anyone with eyes that Conor has spent too much time away from the sport while Dustin has been fighting at a much higher clip and there's plenty of circumstances surrounding the second fight, such as Conor suffering his first TKO loss against Mayweather, numerous incidents with the police and starting up his own whiskey business, which all point to Conor not being the same fighter he was a couple of years ago. I'm sure you know this already but you'll never admit it on here because of your stupid anti-Conor bandwagoning. The fact is it's too early to say who the better fighter is and it may be for some time.
 
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Iroh said:
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Blazmo said:
The reason it was a majority decision was because one of the judges scored a Nate round 10-8 which even Diaz fans found absurd. And your point about Aldo is just stupid. Why not just say every match is a fluke unless everyone fights each other three times or more? Conor didn't offer Aldo a rematch because he wanted to move up into bigger and better things like any fighter would and felt he had nothing to prove at 145 which he didn't. I mean, Conor even predicted the exact way in which he would win and so far you haven't said anything to contradict this because all you can do is mindlessly assert that Conor/Aldo was a fluke because at the end of the day there is nothing you can do to prove otherwise. And Johnson was robbed hard in his fight with Dariush which is the fight he 'lost' just before his fight with Nate so that doesn't take away from his performance at all. Again, Conor was able to beat Nate at his own game in a fight nobody tries to fight with Nate. Let's say Conor did run in that fight, which as I pointed out before, is something plenty of fighters, even juiced-up Jon Jones, does. Who cares? It obviously worked or he wouldn't have won. It really is that simple. You also claim Conor is in his prime now even though he's OLDER yet you argue Dustin wasn't in his prime when he first fought Conor even though he was YOUNGER then and already several fights into his UFC career. Do you truly not understand how absurd that argument is? It's obvious to anyone with eyes that Conor has spent too much time away from the sport while Dustin has been fighting at a much higher clip and there's plenty of circumstances surrounding the second fight, such as Conor suffering his first TKO loss against Mayweather, numerous incidents with the police and starting up his own whiskey business, which all point to Conor not being the same fighter he was a couple of years ago. I'm sure you know this already but you'll never admit it on here because of your stupid anti-Conor bandwagoning. The fact is it's too early to say who the better fighter is and it may be for some time.
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Repeating the same points won't make them true. "chasing bigger challenges" is not a valid excuse. A champ stays in their division and defends. He couldn't handle the pressure of being chased and ran. He had so manh opportunities to defend but didn't. Like right after losing to night and when aldo became interim champ. Three months before the eddie fight. Could've postponed the diaz rematch, fought aldo to bounce back, fought diaz and then fought eddie. But no, no no no anything that involves defending is forbidden.

And dude that was a majority decision. A fair one. He wasn't dominant. Life and death my guy, life and death. You want dominance watch diaz vs jorge. Yes he owned him in r1 and part of rd2 and then...? He didn't beat anyone at their own game. Sure he won, but looked like shit and got out struck by nate , a journeyman. Look at the numbers. Looked like shit. And he always does when his opponent doesn't fold under his power, like khabib and poirier.

All the other stuff, the police, drugs etc... Police, drugs etc nobody cares. It's just excuses. Nobody brought it up when he fought cowboy. People dismissed inactivity as a factor last week until he got knocked out. Why you changing up now? Nah man your mans lost to a better fighter get over it. You're making me look like a bad guy now, simply because you're being stubborn about this. He owned him. Also don't get mad at me. I'm just saying what i saw. Please don't make this personal with some sort of ad hominem attack like what many of y'all do. Please.
 
How is dustin better when they are 1-1? He has to fight Conor again and beat him to actually prove he's the bette man
 
Kono dio da! said:
dustin has a better set of skills, better mind and is physically superior...better fighter. no need to qualify it. also conor isn't 145 goat. refused to defend the belt, refused to fight edgar, chose 2 weeks mendes, refused to rematch aldo. definitely not a goat.
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I can agree that Conor didn't help his standing by not defending 145 and he deserved to lose the belt. But he did beat everyone highly ranked in the weight class at that time. Who was left at that time to defend the belt versus? Every fight would have been a rematch (though I would have enjoyed seeing Max fight him a second time). I can't remember the timeline, but when they banned use of IV's to rehydrate after weight cuts it toasted Conor's career at 145.

He is now stuck with need for a catch-weight in my opinion. He doesn't currently have enough size / power to be even close to what Khabib has done. I think Dustin will win the next rematch as well.
 
SherdogFan23 said:
I can agree that Conor didn't help his standing by not defending 145 and he deserved to lose the belt. But he did beat everyone highly ranked in the weight class at that time. Who was left at that time to defend the belt versus? Every fight would have been a rematch (though I would have enjoyed seeing Max fight him a second time). I can't remember the timeline, but when they banned use of IV's to rehydrate after weight cuts it toasted Conor's career at 145.

He is now stuck with need for a catch-weight in my opinion. He doesn't currently have enough size / power to be even close to what Khabib has done. I think Dustin will win the next rematch as well.
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There was frankie edgar. There was the aldo rematch. Pettis joined the division. Holloway was in the mix as well. Did the same thing with lightweight. Also why hold onto the belt if you're not going to defend it? Also why not offer aldo a money fight rematch at 155 if that's the case. Full camp. Big card no excuses no shenanigans. No short notice. No bs?
 
Pick a reason why he lost, it always comes down to not being as good as Dustin. It’s a fight, he lost.
 
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