DuPlessis looking to become first African UFC champ

[Ace70 V2]

Never gonna be champ at 185 unless he outlast some of the top guys.

 

[Dorkman]

Dan Henderson is native too, and won a UFC tournament. Does that count?

 

[BangBang]

He can keep looking ...

 

[Hellowhosthat]

What do you mean at least? How could Francis be considered anything but African? He grew up working in salt mines. What a dumb thing for homeboy to say.

I think he means that he's a product of African MMA and they're not.

 

[Filthy Phil]

Who cares…

Ngannou is Cameroonian anyway

 

[Platinum Perry Mason]

I know it sounds crazy to some people, but he is correct. You can trace heritage or whatever, but man was born in Africa, lives in Africa and breathes that air every day, his connection to Africa is the real thing. Just like Stipe is American and not Crotian in pretty much every sense but heritage. Nothing wrong with what Dricuss said.

 

[Eternalwarriorking]

Love his passion for his MMA community! Not sure how far DDP will go, but I like having him around. That's for sure.

 

[milliniar]

I'm pretty sure their journalists are paid per occurrence of using "ism" words.

This is along the same lines of Nunes "Mom" champion... she's definitely a mom, but first woman to give birth and be champion is different than Nunes adopting.

Nunes didn't adopt, they used her ovum + donor sperm and Nina carried the child. Making them technically both the child's mother.

 

[FreedomCricket]

Nunes didn't adopt, they used her ovum + donor sperm and Nina carried the child. Making them technically both the child's mother.

My point was more about the physical change/damage/etc that occurs when a woman is pregnant and gives birth. That is life altering.

 

[Joinho10]

The voortrekkers are back to deciding whose African again!

But seriously though defining yourself by excluding others just isn't a vary valarous approach to take. You can talk about being African and bringing the belt back to Africa without exluding others of their Africaness.

This. And also whos not to say Francis stays in Cameroon if he had the same resources Dricus has in South Africa.

 

[spinup]

All the 'African' UFC champs have relocated and applied for citizenship on a different continent. Even Francis. And you can only get citizenship in a country if you reside there.
Technically the argument is sound.

Bascially, what I am saying is that a South African from a comparatively wealthy background bragging about being "more African" because he had the possibilty to train and compete in his country from an early age is pretty stupid. And, yeah, it is probably quite a bit racist too.

A black cameroonian with no money and no connections would have absolutely zero chance to immigrate to South Africa (only place in Africa with visible mma presence) to train and compete.

 

[rstringer]

Here are the quotes in the article

"“Did those belts ever go to Africa? As far as I know, they came to America and New Zealand. I’m going to take a belt to Africa. I’m the African fighting in the UFC. Myself and Cameron [Saaiman], we breathe African air. We wake up in Africa every day. We train in Africa, we’re Africa born, we’re Africa raised, we still reside in Africa, we train out of Africa. That’s an African champion, and that’s who I’ll be.”"

Yup, African.

 

[Andrei Orlovski]

Elon Musk and DuP making Africans proud lately

 

[spinup]

Elon Musk and DuP making Africans proud lately

Well someone had to take up the torch for Oscar Pistorius. Not quite there yet, but good effort.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

My point was more about the physical change/damage/etc that occurs when a woman is pregnant and gives birth. That is life altering.

Of course. Nunes is a parent, like 70% of male fighters.

 

[Koro_11]

And, yeah, it is probably quite a bit racist too.

 

[Tankeray]

Low key trolling, but true tho

 

[jitzmonkey]

Idk. Are we? I wasn't trying to make a list here. I was just mentioning a single counterexample since that's all it takes to disprove that statement.


I'm not sure how he lives. I know his training camps are in Connecticut, but doesn't he reside in Brazil?
That should be enough.
Either way. Even if he had dual citizenship, it would be with the US, so he would be an 'American' either way.

All the 'African' UFC champs have relocated and applied for citizenship on a different continent. Even Francis. And you can only get citizenship in a country if you reside there.
Technically the argument is sound.

Fair enough

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Why tho, do you consider Jon Jones not American because he’s a black guy?

If we use this logic there has never been an American champ since no native guy ever won the title.

Nicco Montano. Navajo, and Chickasaw.

Monument Valley. The ancestral home of the Navajo peoples. And the same general area where she was born (about 100 miles, I believe).

Monument Valley is incredible. I highly recommend you see it if you ever get the chance.

Edit.

Added a pic of me in Monument Valley.

 

[Koro_11]

Nicco Montano. Navajo, and Chickasaw.

Monument Valley. The ancestral home of the Navajo peoples. And the same general area where she was born (about 100 miles, I believe).

Monument Valley is incredible. I highly recommend you see it if you ever get the chance.

OK you can convince me that she’s native, but there’s no convincing me that she was a champ lol