Movies Dragonlord's Idea for the Ending of AVENGERS 4 (Infinity War Spoilers)

[SaiWa]

Oh no someone at the theatre made a good point upon second viewing

Thanos really didn’t need to murder half the universe he could have just made more resources and stuff

That would go against his belief in balance. I think based on the way he was raised and how long he had been going about resolving this issue it drove him to finally decide that it was easiest just to wipe out half of the world. He’s been doing it for so long and his hands are so bloody that it’s the only way that makes sense to him..

Just my take care on it.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Do y'all think they're going to build up to Galactus like they did with Thanos? Personally that's what I most would like to see.

Yes, that is how I would set up Galactus as well, build him up over several FF and MCU movies.

In the past I have outlined how I would do FF if I were to reboot the franchise.

First movie would be about their origins and their enemy would Mole Man.

Second movie would be Atlantis invasion with Namor.

Third movie would be Doctor Doom.

Fourth movie is Galactus.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Oh no someone at the theatre made a good point upon second viewing

Thanos really didn’t need to murder half the universe he could have just made more resources and stuff

My daughter also commented on that.

One of my daughters made an astute comment that if Thanos is omnipotent, why not just expand the universe or expand the resources so that no one goes hungry. I agree. Thanos’ imagination is so limited. Instead of killing half of the universe, he could magically cure most of its problems with the Gauntlet. She also had several theories and one of them is what if Thanos just created an alternate reality/universe where the other half of the population didn't die but just lived there.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

What about?

The Leader needs more build-up while the Abomination is good and ready to go. The last time we saw Samuel Sterns, his forehead started growing. So the character Leader isn't even introduced back then and it would bog down the story trying to force him in the story and develop his character.

Tony ain't gonna nowhere. He'll survive and be the one to build the statue with himself in front because he survived thus is the best.

Aside from Iron Man 1, I disliked Tony's obnoxiousness and how his status affected the MCU's hierarchy. But after Civil War, I have grown to like him again. Your post just brought back years of triggeredness lol.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Love it!!!

Hopefully Marvel has have the balls to do some of this. Very poignant and meaningful.

I can see one of the six surviving, but in your scenario you’d have Nebula play that role. It’d be more meaningful if it was an Avenger who had that “live on to tell our story” role.

Thanks.

Actually there's another version of my story where Vision is with them inside the compound instead of Nebula. Vision has sort of a connection to the Mind Stone and after Thanos turns off the Stones, Vision touches the Stones and he can hears the dying murmurs of the Stones. Vision tells the team about the sacrifice to give the Stones one last spark. Since he is really not alive, he can't participate. One of the things I loved about this version is it will be Paul Bettany's voice that gets to tell the tale.

The reason why I chose the other way was I wanted a Cap-Skull reunion. Nebula was there because her eyes record everything just like what they showed us in Infinity War.

 

[Separatista]

Yeah a sacrifice or exchange has to happen. It would be interesting how they’ll confront Thanos this time and I’m sure those gems/stones would iplay another big role on part 2. What I hope will not happen is they’ll introduce a much bigger celestial threat in which Thanos has to help them. And consequently, revivng the fallen heroes.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I'm glad you included the X-Men and FF teasers, because I wanted the ask what everyone thinks about the timeline of introducing them.

The FF brand is thoroughly damaged that if they just did another movie it would flop, so they'll need to introduce them in another movie as they did with Spiderman, which shouldn't be too difficult. They'll probably want to reboot them asap so at the end of the next Avengers would be a good time to tease them, although they won't be able to really include them until a later movie, I've heard people say Guardians 3 but I don't know that I want the final Guardians film to be a springboard for a new series.

The X-Men on the other hand I feel should be left alone for a little while, give people time to understand that the previous franchise is done for. I don't mean a really long time, just not as soon as Avengers 4 or one of the next few movies.

Do y'all think they're going to build up to Galactus like they did with Thanos? Personally that's what I most would like to see.

It's pretty crazy that just as Marvel is ending this first era so to speak they now have these new characters to work with, should make it really easy to distinguish the movies going forward.

There are a couple of big options with this next stage:
1. Galactus
2. Invasion
3. Annihilation
6. Secret Wars
7. Onslaught (Red Skull) (please, God, no).

Its really tough to call with the upcoming lineup for end of P3 (Captain Marvel, Ant Man & Wasp, IW2, Spider-Man 2) and whats announced/ hinted at for P4 (GotG-3, Eternals, Spider-Man 3, Black Widow, Black Panther 2), + 6 TBD. Based on what I'm seeing in the lineup I would guess Invasion being the next big MCU team-up.

I would hope they would save Big G for the FF.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

We need to see this in IW2:

Except, for the "we have to save Galactus!" part.

 

[horc00]

Oh no someone at the theatre made a good point upon second viewing

Thanos really didn’t need to murder half the universe he could have just made more resources and stuff

This idea intrigues me.

What resources should be increased? Fossil fuel? Drinkable water? Fertile soil? Should he just dump that on the existing planet or create an entire new uninhabited planet with all these resources right next to the current one? Both solutions would screw up the entire planet's gravity, magnetic fields and rotation. Doubling solar and wind energy will create all other new sets of problem.

Randomly killing off half the population on each planet is easier than doubling resources. Resources need planning.

 

[chickenluver]

^ woah so Galactus is originally from Titan just like Thanos?

Spoiler

JK

 

[chickenluver]

Spider-Man 3

The deal made between Sony and Disney was for two Spiderman films, with Tom Holland being loaned for use in three additional MCU films, Civil War, and Avengers 3 and 4.

Meanwhile Sony is releasing this Venom movie and working on Silver and Black. Their plan is to make Spiderman 3 by themselves without Marvel's involvement, and to incorporate Venom, Black Cat, Silver Sable and whoever else into the already established continuity, then move on from there with an endless series of Sonyman movies.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

That would go against his belief in balance. I think based on the way he was raised and how long he had been going about resolving this issue it drove him to finally decide that it was easiest just to wipe out half of the world. He’s been doing it for so long and his hands are so bloody that it’s the only way that makes sense to him..

Just my take care on it.

The argument I spose could be that more resouces would just lead to more population where as wiping out half the population would teach a lesson. That said I personally don't care THAT much about these kinds of films having absolutely watertight plotting, there not really attempting to show something close to reality ala Nolans Batman and the most important element has always been the characters, their motivations feeling correct is most important.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

The deal made between Sony and Disney was for two Spiderman films, with Tom Holland being loaned for use in three additional MCU films, Civil War, and Avengers 3 and 4.

Meanwhile Sony is releasing this Venom movie and working on Silver and Black. Their plan is to make Spiderman 3 by themselves without Marvel's involvement, and to incorporate Venom, Black Cat, Silver Sable and whoever else into the already established continuity, then move on from there with an endless series of Sonyman movies.

I would argue though that Marvel likely see the potential for this which is why there Spiderman has been built more as a "team player" than a top line hero, I mean he's had a solo film but even that included Stark and lower level heroism. Basically making sure that its going to be very difficult for Sony to spilt the character/actor off for separate films and instead sell the rights back to them.

 

[horc00]

Tony ain't gonna nowhere. He'll survive and be the one to build the statue with himself in front because he survived thus is the best.



What about?

I sure as hell hope they don't kill off the Hulk in Avengers 4. He's still got so many stories to tell. And Thaddeus Ross showing up in Infinity War was a nice touch. Maybe like an Adventures of Hulk and Black Widow spinoff. Or a Future Imperfect story would be perfect.


On another note, was anyone else hoping that Thanos' arrival to Earth would've accidentally brought a black goo that'd become...

 

[chickenluver]

I sure as hell hope they don't kill off the Hulk in Avengers 4. He's still got so many stories to tell. And Thaddeus Ross showing up in Infinity War was a nice touch. Maybe like an Adventures of Hulk and Black Widow spinoff. Or a Future Imperfect story would be perfect.

I'd really like to see Ruffalo get his own Hulk movie. I think he has earned it.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I'd really like to see Ruffalo get his own Hulk movie. I think he has earned it.

As said Hulk/Widow does seem like a potential spinoff, maybe the film for the latter will be a mix of that in the present day and flashbacks of her alone?

Stange and Stark playing off of each other in Infinity Wars is perhaps a hint that this is going to carry on and maybe take over as the centre of the Avengers films with Evans saying he's retiring(was that confirmed?). Again RDJ does have the benefit that Ironman isn't the most physically demanding role, much less so than Cap so I don't see it being greatly age dependant.

The Sony Spiderman position might be an unknown as well, if Marvel get him long term then that potentially means they might look to cut down the Avengers more either though, death, retirement or spilting off into separate stories.

 

[MMouse]

My daughter also commented on that.

Wasnt thanos killing population for the greater good but on a smaller scale prior to infinity stones via gamora's planet?

It demostrated thats his belief and how he gos about to approaching it, whether it be on a small scale or on a larger scale (universe).

But yes technically with that kind of power he can approach it differently, I personally think its his belief and way of doing it. Plus its easier. He gets to just snap his fingers.

 

[Corona]

I’m 90% sure cap and stark will die, and that a majority of the vanished heroes will return. I don’t think they’ll kill off Thor though especially if they bring in sentry later.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I'd really like to see Ruffalo get his own Hulk movie. I think he has earned it.

Agreed. But Hulk is on loan from Universal. MCU can only use him in ensembles, which is why we didn't get a Planet Hulk movie.

 

[MaveDeltzer]

Aside from Iron Man 1, I disliked Tony's obnoxiousness and how his status affected the MCU's hierarchy. But after Civil War, I have grown to like him again. Your post just brought back years of triggeredness lol.

Oh I know, I triggered you years ago (I think it was before Age of Ultron) when Tony saw the broken shield in the trailer and I suggested that he'd reforge it. I posted the Tony doing metal work from IM 1 while you responded with screaming Thor from Avengers. Something like that.

Also a note that they did complete that THANOS spelling for the stones.

T = Tesseract
H = Hole
A = Aether
N = Necklace
O = Orb
S = Specter