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Doo Ho Choi vs Kyle Nelson, who you got?

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Doo Ho Choi is arguably the best prospect out of Asia we've seen since Korean Zombie. The hype behind him is not even remotely comparable to ANY asian prospects that came after him. For instance, Taira who is fighting on the same card, there is a good amount of hype for him, but it's not even remotely as big.

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Choi, contrary to what many believes, wasn't away from MMA due to his military service as he actually got the exemption from it. He was away for a couple of years, and no one knows if his chin is the same after all those wars.

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I first thought UFC was setting him up for a what is supposed to be a much winnable fight which will give him a chance to get back on track. I would be relatively shocked if that wasn't the thought process anyways. Kyle Nelson is 1-4 in UFC, and he got subbed by Matt Sayles of all people...on top of being 1-4...you get subbed by Matt Sayles...with a 8-10 first round...Matt Sayles... he looks like one of those guys who probably isn't UFC level, if there is such a thing.

But with Choi's style, if Nelson's chin can take Choi's shot, who knows? Choi has never been defensively sound. Also to be fair to Nelson, Choi's best win, since 2014, is arguably Thiago Tavares as well, so as big as his hype was, it's not like he really lived up to his expectations either.



This fight is probably the second fight I'm most looking forward to after Fedor fight. Well, since the gap between the first and second fight is so huge, calling it the second fight I'm most looking forward to might be a bit misleading, but still I'm very much interested in how this fight plays out.

At the end of the day, Choi has much better boxing and with a knock out power. Kyle Nelson lost to Matt Sayles of all people(oh boy) and 1-4 in UFC. I'm much inclined to believe this is supposed to be a gimme fight for Doo Ho Choi, and it's probably true, whom I'm sure they'd love to see get back on track for their korean market.

But, I think it really depends if Kyle can take his shot(s). If he can, who knows who will win? Who you got?

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Superboy hasn't won a fight for 7 years. If he's even 50% of what he was he should steam Nelson but it's very difficult to trust him at this stage.


Jeong Young Lee will overtake him as the 145 South Korea prospect people are talking about after Saturday anyway.
 
StonedLemur said:
Stfu...steal your ho choi.... mothafucka thats good lol.
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Hahah I didn't make this one. During 2016 I often watch MMA channel in Youtube, and there were a lot of Youtube commenters with hilarious names like:
Sea Level Cain, Motivated Penn, and the most active one was Doo "Steal Your" Ho Choi.

He was always hilarious and comment in every MMA videos. Too bad I never see any of his comment again since 2018.
 
Crazy Librarian said:
Hahah I didn't make this one. During 2016 I often watch MMA channel in Youtube, and there were a lot of Youtube commenters with hilarious names like:
Sea Level Cain, Motivated Penn, and the most active one was Doo "Steal Your" Ho Choi.

He was always hilarious and comment in every MMA videos. Too bad I never see any of his comment again since 2018.
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That shit busted me up lol.
 
Nelson is typically a fast starter, and with Choi's inactivity that might throw him off. But I reckon if Choi gets out the first round, then it's gonna go downhill for Nelson
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Superboy hasn't won a fight for 7 years. If he's even 50% of what he was he should steam Nelson but it's very difficult to trust him at this stage.


Jeong Young Lee will overtake him as the 145 South Korea prospect people are talking about after Saturday anyway.
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Young Lee will rival Young Erick Silva in level of prospect.
 
What are the betting odds?

Its a shame Choi has been out for so long. I hope he can make it happen. I thought I read that he had a ton of injuries that kept him out though. Is that true?
 
Choi was at one time a really exciting, dangerous prospect with clean technical striking and legitimate knockout power. He got pushed into a murderer's row of experienced scrappers after early success in the promotion and took a career's worth of damage in the span of three fights, suffering from injuries ever since. Now he's coming back after a long lay-off.

Kyle Nelson is arguably not even UFC-caliber. He's currently 1-4 in the promotion with his only win being a KO over Marco Polo Reyes*. He doesn't do anything particularly well and is basically a scrappy generalist. He's supposedly worked on his offensive grappling lately but by no means is he an elite wrestler. He was known for his chin and heart on the regional scene, but has been finished in three of his losses in the UFC (including once by Matt fucking Sayles). His striking numbers are pretty atrocious and sometimes he slows down late into fights.

My only real concern is that Nelson, at his core, represents the "formula" which gave Choi fits on his skid: a banger who's willing to walk forward and pressure him, taking one (or two) in order to give one back. Someone willing to push him against the cage and dirty-box. A guy who wants to wade into the pocket and make it a brawl rather than keeping things clean and pretty on the outside. Choi had early success against Swanson, Stephens, and Jourdain picking them apart at kickboxing range, but once they were able to make it a dogfight he melted under the pressure and adversity.

That being said... I think Choi probably has more upside here. It would be fairly generous to assume that any version of Nelson is capable of replicating what Cub, Jeremy, and Charles were able to do to the Korean Superboy. He's just not anywhere on the same level and never has been. Now, does the lay-off for Choi worry me? Of course. But it's entirely possible that it has been good for him to recover from the massive damage he sustained in those last three fights and maybe he's even picked up a few new tricks and expanded his repertoire. I think a big part of why he did so poorly on his skid is that while he did take roughly a year off between fights, he wasn't really taking a step down in competition or changing much about his game in between each bout. And honestly? Even if he comes back as like... 60% of what he once was that should be enough to handily beat someone like Kyle Nelson. This guy had a FOTY with a Cub Swanson who was only a few years removed from beating dudes like Poirier, Oliveira, Siver, and fighting Holloway/Edgar.

I'm taking Choi by (T)KO Rd 2. If he comes back as a super-diminished form of himself or if Nelson has made vast improvements I guess I wouldn't be all that surprised if he grinds out a pressure-heavy Decision or even TKOs him or something in the second half of the fight.

*Nothing to get too excited over. Reyes was a "live-or-die by the sword" guy who came into the promotion, scored four KO victories with his most notable being over the chinny Frevola... before getting chinned himself four times and getting cut three years ago.
 
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