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Does YOUR instructor allow you to visit/train at other gyms??!!

The more you train at other gyms, the more you are taking away from your team. Imagine when you were coming up if all of the upper belts were training at other places a good amount of time. Training would be sub par, and you would be a lot worse.
 
The more you train at other gyms, the more you are taking away from your team. Imagine when you were coming up if all of the upper belts were training at other places a good amount of time. Training would be sub par, and you would be a lot worse.

I disagree.If the upperbelts trained at other schools,odds are they might pick up other styles and techniques that might ad to my game.Plus its doubtful that ALL of the upperbelts will be at other schools on the same days.
 
I disagree.If the upperbelts trained at other schools,odds are they might pick up other styles and techniques that might ad to my game.Plus its doubtful that ALL of the upperbelts will be at other schools on the same days.

Do you think that other schools are doing some super advanced ancient ninja training? It's all the same Jiu Jitsu if you train at a good school. The benefit from training at other schools is pretty much never for the benefit of the group, it is for the individual. And it still subtracts from the room.
 
Do you think that other schools are doing some super advanced ancient ninja training? It's all the same Jiu Jitsu if you train at a good school. The benefit from training at other schools is pretty much never for the benefit of the group, it is for the individual. And it still subtracts from the room.

What? Do you live in Soviet Russia or something?
 
What? Do you live in Soviet Russia or something?

Is there anything that I said that is not true? I've trained at other schools before but I didn't say to myself "Ohhhh let me go over here to see all of these awesome new moves that these guys are doing over here"
 
At my old gym, the owner/instructor got very upset if he found out you were training elsewhere. He has now instituted a rule that competitors aren't allowed to train anywhere else in town. They have to sign a contract saying they will not (and a bunch of other shit.) If you don't sign the contract, you cannot compete.

Respectfully complaining about this contract when it was first implemented is actually what got me kicked out of that gym.

He would encourage you to train at any gym out of town. Unless that gym harboured somebody he didn't like. Then he would 'forbid' you from training there.

You can probably guess, I'm not a fan of these policies.

New gym doesn't care, train wherever.

I do think it's important to show loyalty and be clear with people about what you're doing. For example, when I was between gyms, I was trying out two different places. I was totally upfront about it and made sure I told both gyms when I had made my decision.
 
Is there anything that I said that is not true? I've trained at other schools before but I didn't say to myself "Ohhhh let me go over here to see all of these awesome new moves that these guys are doing over here"

I know you don't believe people go to gyms just for moves.

Atmosphere is different at different places. Sometimes you have friends in one place. Sometimes guys are good at a particular style that you don't see very often. Some times you have guys with VASTLY different body types. Some gyms start standing, while others don't. Some encourage leg locks while others don't. Some have very good nogi training. Some rooms have a cage. Hell, some just have better showers.

There are legit reasons to visit more than one gym. It has nothing to do with moves and I'm not going to slow down my progress because a bunch of white belts at my gym feel lonely. I already got a job. I don't need one where I don't get paid, and any hobby with obligation IS a job.

No thanks. Enjoy your one dimensional perspective though.
 
At my old gym, the owner/instructor got very upset if he found out you were training elsewhere. He has now instituted a rule that competitors aren't allowed to train anywhere else in town. They have to sign a contract saying they will not (and a bunch of other shit.) If you don't sign the contract, you cannot compete.

Respectfully complaining about this contract when it was first implemented is actually what got me kicked out of that gym.

He would encourage you to train at any gym out of town. Unless that gym harboured somebody he didn't like. Then he would 'forbid' you from training there.

You can probably guess, I'm not a fan of these policies.

New gym doesn't care, train wherever.

I do think it's important to show loyalty and be clear with people about what you're doing. For example, when I was between gyms, I was trying out two different places. I was totally upfront about it and made sure I told both gyms when I had made my decision.

That's CRAZY!!! Competitors have to sign a contract? What are the consequences of breaking the contract?

When I compete, I'm always representing my home school. I have friends at several of the gyms in the area so we like to attend each others open mat and share ideas. My biggest fear is ending up having to compete against a friend from an opposing team. It would suck but I may have to do what I have to do. Haha.
 
I know you don't believe people go to gyms just for moves.

Atmosphere is different at different places. Sometimes you have friends in one place. Sometimes guys are good at a particular style that you don't see very often. Some times you have guys with VASTLY different body types. Some gyms start standing, while others don't. Some encourage leg locks while others don't. Some have very good nogi training. Some rooms have a cage. Hell, some just have better showers.

There are legit reasons to visit more than one gym. It has nothing to do with moves and I'm not going to slow down my progress because a bunch of white belts at my gym feel lonely. I already got a job. I don't need one where I don't get paid, and any hobby with obligation IS a job.

No thanks. Enjoy your one dimensional perspective though.



Beat me to it.You can see totally different BJJ between two different schools.Not so much the techniques,but the style that is focused on and the intensity.Alot of schools mirror the instructor.
 
I know you don't believe people go to gyms just for moves.

Atmosphere is different at different places. Sometimes you have friends in one place. Sometimes guys are good at a particular style that you don't see very often. Some times you have guys with VASTLY different body types. Some gyms start standing, while others don't. Some encourage leg locks while others don't. Some have very good nogi training. Some rooms have a cage. Hell, some just have better showers.

There are legit reasons to visit more than one gym. It has nothing to do with moves and I'm not going to slow down my progress because a bunch of white belts at my gym feel lonely. I already got a job. I don't need one where I don't get paid, and any hobby with obligation IS a job.

No thanks. Enjoy your one dimensional perspective though.

That's exactly what I am saying. You don't go to a school to learn new moves. You go to get different training, and get the opportunity to roll with different people. It isn't so you can get all of this new information and bring it back, and tell everyone about all the different styles and techniques that they learned as Keep it Real said.
But hey I'd like to see a day where I don't need to go to another gym to train because my school had developed so many sick grapplers that it made training when I went else where worse. But to each his own.
 
I do alot of traveling for work so I'll drop by a gym that's close to my hotel wherever I'm going. Of course, I always ask my instructor for ADVISE on a gym, never whether it is okay.

I've learned a ton from traveling to other gyms, and my partners and friends have said they're jealous that I've been able to train all over the east coast. Seriously, I cannot explain how much I've learned from going to other gyms. Just having the same concept explained from two different perspectives is so powerful. And for some reason every time I've traveled, the curriculum tend to line up.

For instance, I went to NYC and then to Tampa, each for a week with one week in between. So it went like this:
Week 1: Home gym, russian ties and wrestling.
Week 2: Marcelo's in NYC, butterfly sweep and russian ties and wrestling.
Week 3: Home gym, x-guard entries from butterfly.
Week 4: Gracie Tampa, butterfly passes.
Week 5: Home gym, open guard passes.

Five weeks with 3 different instructors all covering similar material. It was glorious.
 
My current instructor doesn't care.

One of my other instructors has pictures of himself training at Macaco's. He even has a gi with a Macaco Gold Team patch on it. He is from Godoi. I asked him if Tozi or Godoi got mad at him for training at Macaco's since Godoi and Macaco don't like each other. He said that they didn't give a damn and told their students it was okay. I know he would train at Barbosa's, too.
 
I already got a job. I don't need one where I don't get paid, and any hobby with obligation IS a job.

This part in particular caught my attention because it is a simple yet profound insight. I've also had this conversation using the same job comparison many times. It is very accurate. BJJ on a team is like a part time job where you pay money instead of getting paid.

However, every team sport is like this. One of my friends plays in a recreational soccer league. It costs money every season (renting the facilities, league administration, paying the refs at the games, etc.). It also involves an obligation. When you join the team, you are making the commitment to attend practice, go to games, and just basically be a part of the team.

If someone doesn't want an obligation or does not take it seriously, that person will be removed from the team. It hurts everyone to allow that person to remain.

Now BJJ can be approached with a team mentality or an individual mentality. However, all of the top places to train BJJ approach it with a team mentality. After having done it both ways, it is pretty clear to me why.

When it is approached with an individual mentality, the training environment sucks. Guys show up when they want and if they want. This carries over to the training. When the instructor wants something to be drilled, guys who don't feel like it halfass it or just sit out. Usually this discourages drilling and hard work, and it eventually disappears altogether. The class becomes showing 2-3 random moves (usually something trendy like berimbolo or the 50/50 armbar or whatever else is on YouTube that week) and then lazy rolling/sitting out/fooling around/talking about girls for the rest.

When it is approached with a team mentality, guys work hard and drill hard because it is expected. People aren't allowed to just do whatever they want because that is not in the best interest of the team. If the team is drilling some fundamental body mechanic like breaking posture in closed guard, you can't be off in the corner messing around with upside down ass cobra guard with your buddy. If the team is helping some guys prepare for a major competition, you need to be there to give them the hard training that they need. If that doesn't interest you, you will be asked to leave the team because you are dragging down everyone else.

My gym runs things like a team. If you want to be a hardcore competitor and train 10x a week, make that commitment and we will commit back to you 100%. We will fly to comps with you to coach you, provide you the training you need, etc. If you are a middle age dad who wants to lose weight and train 1x a week, make that commitment and we will still commit back to you 100%. We will keep you motivated and progressing so that you meet your goal. It is not just for competitors -- everyone is a part of the team helping everyone else.

If you have some special circumstances where you need to commit several places, perhaps that could work if things lined up right. But that is a lot more work, and the benefits don't usually pay off. I can't think of any top guys right now who are splitting training 50/50 between multiple teams. Visiting and paying respects is one thing, but the splitting of regular training is another. They might be out there, but it is certainly the exception rather than the rule.

When there's doubt, most people should default to the rule and stick with one main team. It is important and should be encouraged to branch out and broaden your horizons, but you still need to have that main team for all of your core training.
 
That's CRAZY!!! Competitors have to sign a contract? What are the consequences of breaking the contract?

When I compete, I'm always representing my home school. I have friends at several of the gyms in the area so we like to attend each others open mat and share ideas. My biggest fear is ending up having to compete against a friend from an opposing team. It would suck but I may have to do what I have to do. Haha.

The consequence is that you cannot compete and do not have access to the Competition Team practices, which replaced one of the advanced-level classes when this all came into effect.

If you entered a competition without permission, I believe you would be kicked out. I believe you would also be kicked out for training at other gyms.

I politely and privately told the owner that I didn't think it was fair, and that I thought I would still like to compete form time to time, despite not having the free time to put into extra practices, or committing to entering EVERY local tournament (another condition of the contract.) I have a family and a job requiring travel.

He told me I'd have to quit the gym if I didn't want to follow those rules. I said I'd think about it.

A few days later he kicked me out of the gym via facebook.
 
The consequence is that you cannot compete and do not have access to the Competition Team practices, which replaced one of the advanced-level classes when this all came into effect.

If you entered a competition without permission, I believe you would be kicked out. I believe you would also be kicked out for training at other gyms.

I politely and privately told the owner that I didn't think it was fair, and that I thought I would still like to compete form time to time, despite not having the free time to put into extra practices, or committing to entering EVERY local tournament (another condition of the contract.) I have a family and a job requiring travel.

He told me I'd have to quit the gym if I didn't want to follow those rules. I said I'd think about it.

A few days later he kicked me out of the gym via facebook.
You are better off without that place anyway.
 
There are legit reasons to visit more than one gym. It has nothing to do with moves and I'm not going to slow down my progress because a bunch of white belts at my gym feel lonely. I already got a job. I don't need one where I don't get paid, and any hobby with obligation IS a job.

Well said sir.
 
I've trained at both types of places, the place that was ok with it was way better and friendlier, the gym that wasn't ok with it didn't even want us to compete at certain local tournaments, it sucked.

Personally I wouldn't go to another teams classes in my town, but would keep it to their open mat hours.
 
My coaches not only don't care, but they encourage training with other instructors when you get the opportunity. They let us know about seminars in the area, even when not put on by our school.

As a show of respect, however, I always ask before attending another school. I let my coaches know my plans so that if they had a problem with a particular visit, we can talk about it. That's never happened.
 
Yes. My judo coach encourages us to traina t other clubs, train bjj etc.
 
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