Does this sound reasonable?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Mr Wings, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. Mr Wings

    Mr Wings Black Belt

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    Every serious MMA gym could hire a guy to be their "USADA consultant." This person's job would be to know USADA's rules, be available to talk to fighters, and give an educational talk to the fighters every week or two (or when USADA changed a rule/added a banned substance). They would talk to every new fighter who joined the gym and have them fill out paperwork stating all recent medical procedures and substances they've used, as well as educating that fighter.

    Finally, fighters wanting to take a new substance, cream, lotion, supplement, or medical procedure, would run it by the USADA consultant first, except in emergency.
     
  2. Drofrah

    Drofrah Green Belt

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    Sounds expensive
     
  3. Dogshare

    Dogshare Yellow Belt

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    This would be the result of a gym USADA consultant:

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  4. AKA_Steve_B

    AKA_Steve_B Veteran Hall of Fame belt

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    UFC or a fighters Union should be paying for it, not the gyms......
     
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    ilfirin Silver Belt

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    I reckon something like that will become more common.
     
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    baba2008 Brown Belt

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    They can likely just call USADA with their questions. Is product 'a' good to use? etc. Much cheaper.
     
  7. The MMA Patriot

    The MMA Patriot - Double Yellow Card

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    You just gave this guy an idea for a market with low competition and gullible clients that he can become a "specialist" in

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  8. P0rkchop

    P0rkchop Black Belt

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    They need to get the banned list in check.. too much bullshit on it
     
  9. Adamant

    Adamant GOLD BELT

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    In theory, yes. But realistically, I'd say every gym needs someone who can help the fighters overcome USADA.

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    lecter not even webscale

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    It isn't that complicated, that's just what every fighter tells you because they cheated and want to make excuses.
    There are even lists with supplements that you CAN take, you don't even have to do reverse searching.
    And if you take any medication, just check that as well, that's it.
     
  11. steliokontos

    steliokontos Nunchaku Suspenders

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    Do USADA have a list of approved products?

    A company could send their products in to get tested at their expense, or send a sample of each batch to the lab to keep on file, then any shady shit and everyone's on the same page n nobody gets banned.
     
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  12. Bend NvR Break

    Bend NvR Break Order to Chaos. Chaos to Order.

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    TS you going to fund the extra 50k or so to pay this "consultant"? Mma training is already expensive. And like Chael said owning a gym is a quick trip to bankruptcy. (I'm paraphrasing)
     
  13. Davemeddlehed

    Davemeddlehed There's no mercy in this dojo!

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    Yep. Mighty Mouse I think it was said he calls a USADA rep before he takes anything, even a Tylenol, just to make sure.

    Picking up the phone is free.
     
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    The UFC already provides that free of charge.
     
  15. baba2008

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    way to go dude - you just contaminated this thread !
     
  16. Mr Wings

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    Theoretically, yes. That's always been an option, but apparently fighters aren't doing that (if we're to believe excuses like that of Chad Mendes). So something needs to change.

    I'm talking about someone in an official or unofficial position, that acts as a leader and helps take the burden and the confusion away from fighters. Someone to take an active role helping fighters stay clean.
     
  17. Mr Wings

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    Hmm, I wonder who could fund such a thing besides me. Let's see, how much does Chad Mendes make per year? He got 50k last year from the Lamas fight bonus alone. And that's just him. He belongs to a gym, so the expense would be split between everyone, or however they wanna work it out.

    Or they could just get banned for 2 years if that's cheaper.
     
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    Can't stand this guy. He does good work, I just can't listen to him.
     
  19. Mr Wings

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    Yes, but if fighters are to be believed, they are still making mistakes unknowingly. So it's not working. And the UFC are not sending their people to the fighters' gyms all the time to take an active leadership role and help keep things in order.
     
  20. chunglii

    chunglii No Me Duele Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    They do. informed-choice.org. Fighters can also call Jeff/USADA with questions (not sure how accessible Jeff is to the fighters).

    It's not a terrible idea, TS. But who pays for this service? Can every fighter afford this? Ultimately, it's up to the fighters to take time outta their days to educate themselves and be responsible for what they put into their bodies.
     

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