Does Italexit mean the end of the Euro? Populists set to take control of Italy

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Italian political crisis: This is not a drill
Italy’s populist proposals amount to blackmail of the European Union – a gambit that is not likely to end well
By DAVID P. GOLDMANMAY 30, 2018 12:22 PM (UTC)

The market has figured out that the worst-case option – an electoral alliance between the welfare-subsidy populists of the Five Star Movement and the tax-cutting populists of the Northern League – is the most likely for Italy’s new elections, which may take place as early as July.

A simulation by the Cattaneo Institute, a respected Italian polling organization, shows that the League-Five Star combination would gain a strong majority in both houses of the Italian parliament. As Asia Unhedged has noted, that would set Italy on a course to leave the eurozone.


Correspondingly, US bond yields are plummeting as investors dive for safety. On Tuesday afternoon, the US 10-year note yield was trading a full 35 basis points below the intraday high on May 18. The Dow-Jones Industrial Average was down by as much as 1.75% and the S&P 500 was down by as much as 1.57%.

We repeat: This is not a drill.

Some commentators think Italy’s populist parties want to blackmail the European Community – that is, the German taxpayer – into bearing a great deal of Italy’s debt bill, either through canceling Italian debt held by the European Central Bank, or by paying for a bank guarantee scheme that would mainly be funded by Germans and mainly used by Italians, or by financing Italy’s budget through the European bonds collective guaranteed by the members of the EC (that is, the Germans).

Other commentators think that Italy’s League party plans to withdraw Italy from the eurozone and substitute a devalued national currency for the euro. They’re both right. The League floated a plan to pay off creditors of the Italian state in government scrip (called mini-BOT’s), which in turn could be used to pay taxes, or buy gasoline at government-owned stations, or anything else the government sells.

In effect, the government would create a parallel currency which would be tradeable, and would instantly trade at a discount to the euro. According to government officials in other European capitals with close relations to the League, the northern Italian populist party has been “underestimated” by the market. The League wants to squeeze the Germans for everything they can get while creating an alternative currency at the same time.

The endgame for Italy’s US$2.3 trillion of government debt (now equal to 130% of GDP) is debasement of the currency – the government will pay its obligations in a cheaper currency.

In the meantime, the Italians will try to collect as much as they can from their European Community partners. The result will be the end of the euro, or its reduction to a rump consisting of a few northern European countries. The EC will revert to its origins as a modest customs union with no common social, fiscal, or monetary policy.


The long-suffering German taxpayers will only play along with Italian blackmail for so long. Yesterday, for example, Die Welt, the leading right-of-center broadsheet, arguing that if Italy collapses, Europe will have no choice to bail it out. The piece attracted 700 comments, every one of which argued that kicking Italy out of the eurozone was a better idea.

http://www.atimes.com/article/italian-political-crisis-this-is-not-a-drill/?cn-reloaded=1

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This seems like it will have huge ripple waves throughout the global economy.

Seems Italy is about to have what I have dreamed of in the US. Populists from the left and right uniting for shared economic interests.

Discuss.......
 
They have... to get... The africans... out....
 
They have... to get... The africans... out....

The Africans were the ones that put Italy in 2.3 trillion worth of debt? Or is this just another one of your koans about black people in general?
 
The Africans were the ones that put Italy in 2.3 trillion worth of debt? Or is this just another one of your koans about black people in general?

I have family that was there recently. It's a strong culture, with strong ethnic pride. The Africans in the street running around are not assimilating, and maybe couldn't. Are we going to live in reality?
 
And no.. A majority of Italy's economic problems are not African and other immigrants fault.
 
I have family that was there recently. It's a strong culture, with strong ethnic pride. The Africans in the street running around are not assimilating, and maybe couldn't. Are we going to live in reality?

Are you going to answer the question or bravely continue on with the ancedotal tap-dancing?

What do Africans have to do with the fact that Italy's debt is 130% of the GDP?
 
And no.. A majority of Italy's economic problems are not African and other immigrants fault.

So why exactly the fuck are you bitching about them in a thread in which the focus is on italy's economic problems if they have nothing to do with their economic problems?

Some kind of default setting?
 
Italy needs their version of Donald Trump.


They had one.

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So why exactly the fuck are you bitching about them in a thread in which the focus is on italy's economic problems if they have nothing to do with their economic problems?

Some kind of default setting?

Well, this is the true reason for the movement that will happen. They don't help the problem, that's for sure.
 
We got an OP that talks about Italy's economic woes and we have two absolute retards posting shit about immigrants without any context or commentary to explain how their posting is connected to the OP.

Cretinous clotwads, the both of them.
 
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Rabble rabble rabble, immigrants and africans, rabble rabble rabble.

Sorry I didn't read the OP, I just googled "default conservative reaction to economic news" and posted the results.
 
Well, this is the true reason for the movement that will happen. They don't help the problem, that's for sure.

You literaly don't know what the fuck you're talking about, do you?

This thread could be about Trump putting tariffs on hot-buttered popcorn and your dumb ass would still find a way to shoehorn some bullshit about Africans.

Any time you want to bck up your bullshit with facts, let me know and we'll talk like men. til then, keep on keeping on with the andedotal tap-dancing. It seems to be the measure of you.
 
I was gonna ask if you even know who's in the picture and what they did for Italy, but I can see you saying Mussolini and being completely serious. So I'm just gonna go back to laughing.

You do that. Meanwhile, Trump is awesome.
 
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