Dober's corner sending him out (to die) to the 3d rd

Nobody sends fighters out. Don't infantilize fighters or take away their agency. They're big boys and girls. They signed up for this shit. They LOVE this shit. FFS, Dober emphasized being a warrior in his post-fight interview. God, I hate how pussified today's sports are, but especially combat sports. This is a violent sport. There's blood and pain. And it's special because it's full of special people who WANT the violence and who LOVE the violence. Just sit back and enjoy their warrior spirit. And ideally grow a pair. Or else go watch something else.
 
Bullitt68 said:
Nobody sends fighters out. Don't infantilize fighters or take away their agency. They're big boys and girls. They signed up for this shit. They LOVE this shit. FFS, Dober emphasized being a warrior in his post-fight interview. God, I hate how pussified today's sports are, but especially combat sports. This is a violent sport. There's blood and pain. And it's special because it's full of special people who WANT the violence and who LOVE the violence. Just sit back and enjoy their warrior spirit. And ideally grow a pair. Or else go watch something else.
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Well said sir.
 
Bullitt68 said:
Nobody sends fighters out. Don't infantilize fighters or take away their agency. They're big boys and girls. They signed up for this shit. They LOVE this shit. FFS, Dober emphasized being a warrior in his post-fight interview. God, I hate how pussified today's sports are, but especially combat sports. This is a violent sport. There's blood and pain. And it's special because it's full of special people who WANT the violence and who LOVE the violence. Just sit back and enjoy their warrior spirit. And ideally grow a pair. Or else go watch something else.
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Dober is a knockout artist, so he had a path to victory. Even after getting rocked, with the 1min of recovery time he was recovered enough to resume the fight in viable condition

There are many cases of corners failing to throw in the towel like Tony vs Gaethje and Phil Hawes vs Roman Dolidze, but this isn't one of them
 
Bullitt68 said:
Nobody sends fighters out. Don't infantilize fighters or take away their agency. They're big boys and girls. They signed up for this shit. They LOVE this shit. FFS, Dober emphasized being a warrior in his post-fight interview. God, I hate how pussified today's sports are, but especially combat sports. This is a violent sport. There's blood and pain. And it's special because it's full of special people who WANT the violence and who LOVE the violence. Just sit back and enjoy their warrior spirit. And ideally grow a pair. Or else go watch something else.
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Because it's a sport. In boxing his corner would have stopped it
 
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Bullitt68 said:
Nobody sends fighters out. Don't infantilize fighters or take away their agency. They're big boys and girls. They signed up for this shit. They LOVE this shit. FFS, Dober emphasized being a warrior in his post-fight interview. God, I hate how pussified today's sports are, but especially combat sports. This is a violent sport. There's blood and pain. And it's special because it's full of special people who WANT the violence and who LOVE the violence. Just sit back and enjoy their warrior spirit. And ideally grow a pair. Or else go watch something else.
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If refs or anyone else really cared about fighter safety, they wouldn't let these guys fight. PERIOD. These guys are fighting, nothing safe about it.
 
Bullitt68 said:
Nobody sends fighters out. Don't infantilize fighters or take away their agency. They're big boys and girls. They signed up for this shit. They LOVE this shit. FFS, Dober emphasized being a warrior in his post-fight interview. God, I hate how pussified today's sports are, but especially combat sports. This is a violent sport. There's blood and pain. And it's special because it's full of special people who WANT the violence and who LOVE the violence. Just sit back and enjoy their warrior spirit. And ideally grow a pair. Or else go watch something else.
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Cringe post…… If a dude doesn’t know where he is …..is being completely outclassed and you could sink a putt in the hole above his eye ……you stop the fight …….
 
Nigol said:
Because it's a sport.
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Yes, a combat sport. There's no crying in baseball and there damn sure shouldn't be babying in MMA. Let 'em bang, bro.

Nigol said:
In boxing his corner would have stopped it
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Then go watch boxing and stop fraying your delicate nerves watching MMA. Jesus, man, you've got an 07 join date. Do you think Frankie Edgar's corner should be tried and executed? How have you stomached the sport for so long with such a weak constitution? Never mind the obvious point about how many people have died in boxing...

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He was never in the fight ….obvious he’d be outclassed from the start
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Why bother having people fight at all? How about we just have people stand next to each other and then judges could render verdicts on who they think looks like they'd probably win if they fought? That way, nobody'd ever get hurt.

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checktheknuckles said:
If refs or anyone else really cared about fighter safety, they wouldn't let these guys fight. PERIOD.
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You're right, and this is what pisses me off the most: Ultimately, this pussified position betrays a fundamental disavowal of the sport itself. It's like hockey fans who cringe at big hits and who think fighting should be outlawed. In today's pussified hockey with barely any fucking contact, we'll never have a moment like when Paul Kariya was obliterated by Scott Stevens only to come back and score in a winning effort for the Ducks. Likewise, in today's MMA, it's less and less likely that we'll see epic Nog-like or Edgar-like comebacks, or maylees like Kongo/Barry. When did sports fans' balls drop off? When did MMA fans abandon the Just Bleed God and start the Ew Blood revolution? You can't really like fighting if you spend the entire time you're watching trying to mother the fighters like they're babies who might get a booboo. It's pathetic, insulting, and obnoxious.
 
Sometimes the corner should be able to call it quits for the fighter but I don't think this was the case.
 
Bullitt68 said:
You're right, and this is what pisses me off the most: Ultimately, this pussified position betrays a fundamental disavowal of the sport itself. It's like hockey fans who cringe at big hits and who think fighting should be outlawed. In today's pussified hockey with barely any fucking contact, we'll never have a moment like when Paul Kariya was obliterated by Scott Stevens only to come back and score in a winning effort for the Ducks. Likewise, in today's MMA, it's less and less likely that we'll see epic Nog-like or Edgar-like comebacks, or maylees like Kongo/Barry. When did sports fans' balls drop off? When did MMA fans abandon the Just Bleed God and start the Ew Blood revolution? You can't really like fighting if you spend the entire time you're watching trying to mother the fighters like they're babies who might get a booboo. It's pathetic, insulting, and obnoxious.
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I'm sure the pussification of the ufc/mma is from all the cte evidence coming out from the NFL. And basically it all ties to $$$. UFC trying to hedge against future lawsuits (ufc is young and haven't had a ton of old guys in their 80-90's yet, which would show even further brain damage, cte). That why they saying the narrative, "for fighter safety", like they are trying to take an active role in preventing brain damage. Yet at the same time it is a brutal sport where brain damage is the name of the game. In fact, the whole point is to give the opponent brain damage so that you can win the fight.

Most sherbros accept brain damage and actually worship the just bleed gods. And fighters them selves want to go out on their shield 99% of the time, or at least mostly say that, though their actions might speak differently once close to that point (ferg vs justin, etc).
 
checktheknuckles said:
I'm sure the pussification of the ufc/mma is from all the cte evidence coming out from the NFL. And basically it all ties to $$$. UFC trying to hedge against future lawsuits (ufc is young and haven't had a ton of old guys in their 80-90's yet, which would show even further brain damage, cte). That why they saying the narrative, "for fighter safety", like they are trying to take an active role in preventing brain damage. Yet at the same time it is a brutal sport where brain damage is the name of the game. In fact, the whole point is to give the opponent brain damage so that you can win the fight.

Most sherbros accept brain damage and actually worship the just bleed gods. And fighters them selves want to go out on their shield 99% of the time, or at least mostly say that, though their actions might speak differently once close to that point (ferg vs justin, etc).
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Commentary is the clearest indicator. So often now, commentary during fights consists of a chorus of wimpy whining for refs to stop the fights. It's insufferable. Likewise with hockey. I've been watching old '90s games on YouTube recently and it's unbelievable the way that a guy can get headlocked and thrown to the ground and the commentators will be suspicious of the guy on the ground of embellishing for a call, whereas now if someone breathes on a guy too hard you'll get ten articles about how the guy should be suspended for brutality. (I'm not even going to go into basketball, where I think direct eye contact is now a foul.) Not to mention the ridiculous concussion protocol bullshit, not letting players back onto the ice like they're fucking nine years old. All you have to do is watch Ice Guardians and listen to the guys talk themselves. They wanted to play, they loved the game, and they'd give anything to do it again.

(I also love Kelly Chase calling himself a crybaby :p)



Listen to the crowd here, feel the fucking atmosphere when Kariya lights that lamp!



I hate virtue signaling white knight pansies getting in the way of people with something in their blood, in their bones, in their souls, that they'll never understand, and dictating how they get to do what they CHOSE to do and what they WANT and LOVE to do. Fighting is special because of how special the fighters are. Don't neuter them or the sport. All of the other sports are bad enough. Leave MMA alone. Let there be one sport where there are actual warriors actually engaging in combat for fun, for honor, for a challenge...the ultimate challenge, as the great Bill "Superfoot" Wallace would say ;)
 
Alex Pereira shouldn't have gone back out after R1 of the first Adesanya fight by the same standard. So here's a thought experiment: what's the difference between sending a fighter back out after getting hurt at the end of a round and giving them a 1 minute break versus not stopping the fight the at the same moment as if the round wasn't over? I very much doubt that you would say that if Dober got hurt with 2 minutes left in the round that the ref should have jumped in right at the exact sequence.
 
Cmon man


He was obviously fine to go out there.

Blood made it look worse than it was.
 
Bullitt68 said:
Commentary is the clearest indicator. So often now, commentary during fights consists of a chorus of wimpy whining for refs to stop the fights. It's insufferable.
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This! Cormier's and (to a lesser extent) Bisping's PTSD freakouts are one of the reasons some fighters shouldn't commentate.
 
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