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Do you think there will ever be a point in time when there would be something like this:

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I won't say never, but it's centuries away, or a large advanced alien technology find away and I'll tell you why.

We are light years away from solving the medical and physical problems associated with living in space. They've been able to deal with muscle atrophy with exercise, but they literally have no idea how to deal with the bone loss, you urinate calcium at an alarming rate as soon as you get into zero gravity, and after only 6 months the loss is significant.

So mayke artificial gravity? lol, yea good luck with that, see you after we have warp drive too. Simulating the amount of gravity the mass of our entire earth makes is a feat we don't even know where to begin. And the whole spinning donut thing won't cut it either as little things like eyesight deterioration and various other medical problems aren't neutralized with it.

We're a long long ways away from space colonies unfortunately.

It sucks.
 
Sorry kid, you were born too early to explore the galaxy.
 
Liquid Smoke said:
Sorry kid, you were born too early to explore the galaxy.
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And apparently we were born too late to explore the Earth...

...even though, you know, like 80-90% of the oceans have yet to be explored.
 
Sorry fellas we were born too early to explore the Galaxy but too late to explore the world. At least we have modern medicine and streaming porn. Yeah I think it will happen at some point. Earth is just our beginning area Mr WOW.
 
Tropodan said:
So mayke artificial gravity? lol, yea good luck with that, see you after we have warp drive too. Simulating the amount of gravity the mass of our entire earth makes is a feat we don't even know where to begin. And the whole spinning donut thing won't cut it either as little things like eyesight deterioration and various other medical problems aren't neutralized with it.

We're a long long ways away from space colonies unfortunately.

It sucks.
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A rotating wheel space station theoretically will counteract all the negative effects of zero g, because when you're on one, you're not experiencing zero g. Gravity is incredibly weak. The force enacted on us by the entire mass of our planet can easily be replicated with a fairly small motor. There's nothing magical about it that can't be replicated artificially.

A far bigger problem is faster than light travel, and the fact we're unsure if such a thing is even possible. Colonizing our own solar system might be possible, but going anywhere else is going to be much harder, if possible at all.
 
jimbob27 said:
The force enacted on us by the entire mass of our planet can easily be replicated with a fairly small motor. There's nothing magical about it that can't be replicated artificially.
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This is totally false. We'd be doing it already if we could do this. They originally were going to have a donut on the ISS but changed plans.

"The biggest obstacle to this trope in Real Life is our sense of motion. Your ears are very good at sensing motion and gravity (it's how you balance) and while you're being centrifuged, you're subject to the Coriolis Effect, and so if you happen to turn your head to look left or right, you'd be so overcome with motion sickness you'd throw up. The benefits of gravity simply didn't justify the extravagant cost that designing a spinning space station would require. Especially considering they'd have to design it to handle emergency situations that would necessitate the station to stop moving; in other words, everything would have to be designed to operate in two modes. This would have made the project several hundreds to several thousands of times more expensive than it already would be. NASA and other space programs simply weren't willing to design what would essentially be a multi-billion dollar failure-prone space puke bucket."

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CentrifugalGravity
 
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Tropodan said:
This is totally false. We'd be doing it already if we could do this. They originally were going to have a donut on the ISS but changed plans.
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It's really not.

The international space station was never originally planned to have a rotating section. It was conceived as a space station made up of lots of small modules from the various contributing parties. A ring was designed by NASA in 2011, but that was following the financial crisis when they couldn't even get a launch vehicle funded, let alone something that's never been done before. You can look it up, it's called the Nautilus ring.

The reason nobody is doing it already is because space stuff is really expensive, and there's very little practical application for long-term space survival technology in the current climate, where nobody even has a launch vehicle capable of putting people past low earth orbit.
 
Liquid Smoke said:
What's down there though? Fish and what else?
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jimbob27 said:
It's really not.

The international space station was never originally planned to have a rotating section. It was conceived as a space station made up of lots of small modules from the various contributing parties. A ring was designed by NASA in 2011, but that was following the financial crisis when they couldn't even get a launch vehicle funded, let alone something that's never been done before. You can look it up, it's called the Nautilus ring.

The reason nobody is doing it already is because space stuff is really expensive, and there's very little practical application for long-term space survival technology in the current climate, where nobody even has a launch vehicle capable of putting people past low earth orbit.
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The size of the donut/ring would have to be like 3km in diameter just to avoid motion sickness. So technically it's possible, but it's not practical in the sense of having human colonies in space. It could theoretically sustain long space flights, but civilian colonies in space it's not realistic.
 
Tropodan said:
I won't say never, but it's centuries away, or a large advanced alien technology find away and I'll tell you why.

We are light years away from solving the medical and physical problems associated with living in space. They've been able to deal with muscle atrophy with exercise, but they literally have no idea how to deal with the bone loss, you urinate calcium at an alarming rate as soon as you get into zero gravity, and after only 6 months the loss is significant.

So mayke artificial gravity? lol, yea good luck with that, see you after we have warp drive too. Simulating the amount of gravity the mass of our entire earth makes is a feat we don't even know where to begin. And the whole spinning donut thing won't cut it either as little things like eyesight deterioration and various other medical problems aren't neutralized with it.

We're a long long ways away from space colonies unfortunately.

It sucks.
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Technological singularity. Any thought that can be thought and any technology that can be developed will be developed in .1 seconds after we hit near-infinite intelligence. Probably in 20-40 years.
 
superpunch said:
Technological singularity. Any thought that can be thought and any technology that can be developed will be developed in .1 seconds after we hit near-infinite intelligence. Probably in 20-40 years.
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Does this mean we will have holodecks?

I really really want a holodeck.
 
jimbob27 said:
A far bigger problem is faster than light travel, and the fact we're unsure if such a thing is even possible. Colonizing our own solar system might be possible, but going anywhere else is going to be much harder, if possible at all.
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That only matters to people because we live for 70 years. It's not the speed or time variable that's the problem. The problem is our stupid small lifespan. Solution: robot bodies that live forever. Then a few million years travel time doesn't matter.
 
Tropodan said:
Does this mean we will have holodecks?

I really really want a holodeck.
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Yes, but you won't be around to see it. One or a few sentient beings will absorb all the other sentiences or find some other way to remove your "free will", maybe just kill you. When one being can destroy the planet or an entire solar system even if by accident, there obviously can't be more than one or a few beings with "free will" running around or we all die.
 
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