Do you think this text is too harsh?

[Fawlty]

Yes. But I want a test done now before they're born.

Here's the deal.

A prenatal (before birth) paternity test cost about $1000. But she had an emergency surgery done to save the babies. During the surgery the doctors took a DNA sample for genetic testing & study purposes because this is a very rare pregnancy that they are trying to learn more about. Anyway that same sample can be used to establish paternity right now. But she has to agree. Right she says she won't agree to it because she's tired of my nasty & ignorant remarks.

I want the test done now before I buy a house & a new truck. I need those before the babies arrive.

That's rough man. I hope she comes around.

 

[Drenalin]

That's rough man. I hope she comes around.

She may but we'll see. I do know pregnancy made her a completely different person. She always needed alcohol to be a sociable fun person & now she obviously can't drink.

She said her & I could never get back to where we were after all of this & shes probably right. My main focus is on raising the kids together like we agreed, but I don't think that's realistic with a person like here.

 

[DoomPatrol]

@Drenalin

You need to get that paternity test before you sign any documents about that child. You can't trust this girl at her word and if the kid isn't yours and you sign that birth certificate, you'll still be stuck with the kid.

You need to tell her that a hard-line demand for her to receive a penny of support means that you get a paternity test first. If there's no test, there's no money for her. Clearly she doesn't care about your feelings for shit. Don't let her play with your wallet.

 

[Eazy123]

The OP wants full 50%. Meaning 3.5 full days a week with the kids(Which usually ends up being a "you get them one week, I get them the next"). Ideally he wants custody and her having to beg time with them I think, but that will not happen.

IWinyouLose is coming on a bit strong in his approach, but he is very correct in his assertions that women held all the cards in Custody battles in the past. The trend is shifting as the old fart judges who still remember the Tender Years Doctrine die out and younger reasonable Judges replace them.

But if he were wrong, then it would not be men applying for "access" to their children in 85% of the cases statistically.

I don't deny women hold the cards. When it comes to divorce and domestic violence cases I totally agree. But facts are facts, and I've proven the fact not only from my own personal experience but information straight from my state's custodial scheduling website that it is not the same all around and usually by default that holidays are split and et cetera, instead of a flimsy "my friend is a lawyer and he said" someone who I don't even know excuse.

If a particular woman wants to be a bitch then I'm sure she could get her way, again I don't deny that - but it's not representative of all women as it's being presented. Again - any divorced couple I know of, even ones not having amicably split, split holidays. But I imagined that and fuck the state I live in, right....lol

But people have to always be right even when facts are staring them dead in the face so I'll just let them be right and I'm bowing out of this thread with ya.

 

[blitzk]

Naaa. She's back with her ex & they plan on raising the babies together. If she thought he was the dad, she wouldn't have me going to appointments & picking out the baby names. If she thought I wasn't the father, she would've cut ties with me along time ago. She's hoping he's the father but it's unlikely.

From the OP it seems like the other guy is kind of a Dbag and you are the nice guy, she knows that but still she chose to be with him over you. My first reaction is to think that she looped you in just to have some support in case things gets difficult with Dbag since it's thin ice with guys like that and she knows it.

 

[Halifax]

Not sure if this was asked, but can you get a court order for the paternity test?

Fuck and I wanted to bow out of this thread.....

After the babies are born sure.

But invasive prenatal Paternity tests won't be ordered . The reason they give you that "Warning" before Amniotic Fluid tests for other reasons is due to the danger of miscarriage.

Now if the woman is having amniocentesis already for something else and agrees to it, then yes. But she needs to agree to it.

In any case, still praying for you that they are not yours. First off, you idea of 50/50 tends to lean towards Families that have split up with older children, not newborn babies. You will not be getting 50/50 access during the newborn and infant months.

 

[faustian]

Yes. But I want a test done now before they're born.

Here's the deal.

A prenatal (before birth) paternity test cost about $1000. But she had an emergency surgery done to save the babies. During the surgery the doctors took a DNA sample for genetic testing & study purposes because this is a very rare pregnancy that they are trying to learn more about. Anyway that same sample can be used to establish paternity right now. But she has to agree. Right she says she won't agree to it because she's tired of my nasty & ignorant remarks.

I want the test done now before I buy a house & a new truck. I need those before the babies arrive.

It's insane that she has to give consent in order for you to know whether you're a fucking father

 

[Drenalin]

@Drenalin

You need to get that paternity test before you sign any documents about that child. You can't trust this girl at her word and if the kid isn't yours and you sign that birth certificate, you'll still be stuck with the kid.

You need to tell her that a hard-line demand for her to receive a penny of support means that you get a paternity test first. If there's no test, there's no money for her. Clearly she doesn't care about your feelings for shit. Don't let her play with your wallet.

I won't sign the birth certificate until a paternity test is done. I'm trying to have one done now

 

[Drenalin]

From the OP it seems like the other guy is kind of a Dbag and you are the nice guy, she knows that but still she chose to be with him over you. My first reaction is to think that she looped you in just to have some support in case things gets difficult with Dbag since it's thin ice with guys like that and she knows it.

Her ex is a d/bag. He's thrown her away many times. They were off & on for 9 years. She's basically been with him her whole adult life. She loves him so much that nothing else matters. It's bullshit she didn't tell me how she felt about him until after I got her pregnant. She even told me that he used her mom's cancer & her dad's death as a reason to get back together & then he instantly threw her away for another girl.

And that's the man she plans to raise my kids with. I told her I want to meet him to what type of man acts the way he does, but she won't let me.

 

[Drenalin]

It's insane that she has to give consent in order for you to know whether you're a fucking father

Yep. It's her medical records. The sample was taken during her surgery. She said I can wait

 

[Drenalin]

Fuck and I wanted to bow out of this thread.....

After the babies are born sure.

But invasive prenatal Paternity tests won't be ordered . The reason they give you that "Warning" before Amniotic Fluid tests for other reasons is due to the danger of miscarriage.

Now if the woman is having amniocentesis already for something else and agrees to it, then yes. But she needs to agree to it.

In any case, still praying for you that they are not yours. First off, you idea of 50/50 tends to lean towards Families that have split up with older children, not newborn babies. You will not be getting 50/50 access during the newborn and infant months.

I know you wanted to bow out lol but heres the thing..

An invasive prenatal paternity test isn't needed because they already have the sample. She needed an emergency surgery to save the babies because of twin to twin transfusion. During the surgery they took a DNA sample of the placenta for research purposes. That same sample can be used to establish paternity

 

[DoomPatrol]

I won't sign the birth certificate until a paternity test is done. I'm trying to have one done now

I saw that, but I also saw that you seemed to be having issues getting it done. Don't let that scandalous bitch trick you into giving her money without that test. She's playing you on some real fuck shit, and you need to protect yourself right now. That baby comes second until you know it's yours and you need to make that clear as day. Otherwise the guy currently blowing loads in her can take claim and spend his money.

 

[Drenalin]

I saw that, but I also saw that you seemed to be having issues getting it done. Don't let that scandalous bitch trick you into giving her money without that test. She's playing you on some real fuck shit, and you need to protect yourself right now. That baby comes second until you know it's yours and you need to make that clear as day. Otherwise the guy currently blowing loads in her can take claim and spend his money.

I'm having trouble getting the prenatal paternity test done but I shouldn't have any problem with the normal after birth paternity test.

 

[I Am Legion]

This situation has only two positive outcomes. Either they aren't yours and you are free of this nutty bitch. Or you become a dad and at least these babies will have one good parent. TBH, even though everything else sux, these two are the only ones that you can focus on.

 

[Drenalin]

Fuck and I wanted to bow out of this thread.....

After the babies are born sure.

But invasive prenatal Paternity tests won't be ordered . The reason they give you that "Warning" before Amniotic Fluid tests for other reasons is due to the danger of miscarriage.

Now if the woman is having amniocentesis already for something else and agrees to it, then yes. But she needs to agree to it.

In any case, still praying for you that they are not yours. First off, you idea of 50/50 tends to lean towards Families that have split up with older children, not newborn babies. You will not be getting 50/50 access during the newborn and infant months.

Also my plan was to not split custody until she's goes back to work from paternity leave. Then once she starts work, I want the babies during the 4 days she works. Also she doesn't seem to think she'll be able to breastfeed which I've heard is a factor.

 

[Drenalin]

This situation has only two positive outcomes. Either they aren't yours and you are free of this nutty bitch. Or you become a dad and at least these babies will have one good parent. TBH, even though everything else sux, these two are the only ones that you can focus on.

Very true. Ironically I've always wanted kids but always said I'd never meet a girl worth have kids with. That still seems to be the case

 

[Curmudgeon]

So some on here remember my story. I'll sum it real fast with cliffs

--tells me she was also trying to have kids with her ex at the same time, but she's certain I'm the father based on estimated conception datet

Do you honestly fucking believe this load of shit after all the crap she's pulled? She was banging him and probably other people. Like was said, you're just the most stable in her fucked up circle, you're the money and backup plan. She played you like a fiddle, no offense.

 

[Drenalin]

Do you honestly fucking believe this load of shit after all the crap she's pulled? She was banging him and probably other people. Like was said, you're just the most stable in her fucked up circle, you're the money and backup plan. She played you like a fiddle, no offense.

There's a lot more details than you know. The father is either me or him. I'm sure she prays to God that's he's the father. Problem is, the conception date is when we were trying to get her pregnant. If she didn't think I was the father, she would'nt have me so involved with everything. I'm the one that picked the baby names.

I hope I'm not the father but if she wasn't at work she was getting cream pied by me so it's kinda hard for me to not be the father.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

 

[Jon Stark]

Good luck TS.