Do you think an MMA fighter can ever get a 50-0 record?

[Takes Two To Tango]

I mean Khabib is the closest to that, I wonder if he kept on fighting how long it would have took him to lose finally.

He would pretty much have to beat a top 5 guy till he reached 50-0.

I don't think it could ever happen, not like in boxing.

It's just too many variables and uncertainties for it to manifest.

 

[Pierce 34]

Just fight bums like they do in boxing

 

[snugglecakes]

hickson went 200 n Oh bro

frank duex did a few 100 in a row just during 1 kumite weekend

 

[Feaser]

Who honesty thinks “no?” Obviously we have Khabib as an example, 29-0. What if he decided to hang around the regional circuit for 2 more years beating up taxi drivers? 50-0 ain’t so distant. And Renan Barao had a 25-fight streak before he even fought a guy with a wiki page, notwithstanding his early loss. One day, some phenom will have the foresight to gather an obscene amount of jobber scalps before hitting the big leagues. 50-0 is a low bar. You should be asking whether it can be 100-0.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Who honesty thinks “no?” Obviously we have Khabib as an example, 29-0. What if he decided to hang around the regional circuit for 2 more years beating up taxi drivers? 50-0 ain’t so distant. And Renan Barao had a 25-fight streak before he even fought a guy with a wiki page, notwithstanding his early loss. One day, some phenom will have the foresight to gather an obscene amount of jobber scalps before hitting the big leagues. 50-0 is a low bar. You should be asking whether it can be 100-0.

Fair enough.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

If their goal was just to arbitrarily be 50-0 then yes.

If you're asking if they can be 50-0 while fighting top contenders, then no. Not for a very long time at least, or it's possible if they leave the regional circuit after having a large record (Khabib got a lot of wins before he came to the UFC).

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

If their goal was just to arbitrarily be 50-0 then yes.

If you're asking if they can be 50-0 while fighting top contenders, then no. Not for a very long time at least, or it's possible if they leave the regional circuit after having a large record (Khabib got a lot of wins before he came to the UFC).

Even arbitrarily going to 50-0 would be very hard, when there so many ways to lose in a MMA fight. It's not easy to mount a streak like that even against average fighters.

 

[World eater]

I don’t think there is enough time for that anymore if we look at it from a western world perspective. Fight camps, comissions and all that. With 3 fights a year, without any misstep, it would take 17 years. Now, if said fighter would fight in lower orgs, without proper testing, fighting 5+ times a year and refusing contracts with big orgs, it could be done.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Even arbitrarily going to 50-0 would be very hard, when there so many ways to lose in a MMA fight. It's not easy to mount a streak like that even against average fighters.

No one said it'd be easy, but if it can be done in boxing of course it can be done in MMA.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

No one said it'd be easy, but if it can be done in boxing of course it can be done in MMA.

I disagree, there just too many ways to lose in MMA. Your whole body is vulnerable to getting either submitted or knocked out.
Boxing is more predictable limited when it comes to that.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I disagree, there just too many ways to lose in MMA. Your whole body is vulnerable to getting either submitted or knocked out.
Boxing is more predictable limited when it comes to that.

What's there to disagree about? If you're saying some guy who is a god like fighter can be knocked out by a random haymaker...then what about the next god like fighter? Eventually someone isn't going to get beaten by a lucky shot.

Way stranger things happen in life than a guy beating up 50 people in a row. There are already guys who aren't far off when you include amateur records.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

What's there to disagree about? If you're saying some guy who is a god like fighter can be knocked out by a random haymaker...then what about the next god like fighter? Eventually someone isn't going to get beaten by a lucky shot.

Way stranger things happen in life than a guy beating up 50 people in a row. There are already guys who aren't far off when you include amateur records.

The point is that MMA has more ways to lose than Boxing. Boxing you can just cover up like Mayweather and point win a fight.

We haven't had anyone do a 40-0 record in MMA even. It's never happened. So I'll believe it when I see it kind of thing.

But I highly doubt it.

As for amateur records that's irrelevant imo.

 

[kingofthecans]

MMA Fighter = No
Sherbro = Fuck Yeah

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

They’d have to fight more than once a year and have steroids

 

[Doctor Grudge]

The point is that MMA has more ways to lose than Boxing. Boxing you can just cover up like Mayweather and point win a fight.

We haven't had anyone do a 40-0 record in MMA even. It's never happened. So I'll believe it when I see it kind of thing.

But I highly doubt it.

As for amateur records that's irrelevant imo.

Travis Fulton went 39-0 in the regional circuit. In fact, his win streak was broken only because he fought a non-can (Ben Rothwell). He won 8 fights in a row right after, before fighting Travis Wulf (a non can). So yes, it is very possible to beat 50 cans in a row. Travis Fulton is hardly the best fighter either, and he wasn't even in his prime when he did that.

Igor Vovochanyn won 37 fights in a row and thats including him fighting dangerous guys.


The reason why no one has a 40-0 record is because it makes no sense to fight 40 cans in a row. You will need to make money and fight for a world title, and if you're in the UFC you won't be able to fight cans for the most part if you're on the top of the card.

That isn't relevant to someone who just sets out to fight jabroni fighters. If a world class fighter fought cans and green fighters, they would have crazy records. It's already trending in that direction.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Travis Fulton went 39-0 in the regional circuit. In fact, his win streak was broken only because he fought a non-can (Ben Rothwell). He won 8 fights in a row right after, before fighting Travis Wulf (a non can). So yes, it is very possible to beat 50 cans in a row. Travis Fulton is hardly the best fighter either, and he wasn't even in his prime when he did that.

Igor Vovochanyn won 37 fights in a row and thats including him fighting dangerous guys.


The reason why no one has a 40-0 record is because it makes no sense to fight 40 cans in a row. You will need to make money and fight for a world title, and if you're in the UFC you won't be able to fight cans for the most part.

That isn't relevant to someone who just sets out to fight jabroni fighters. If a world class fighter fought cans and green fighters, they would have crazy records.

Travis Fulton I knew he'd be brought up. But you are talking about win streak after he had losses early in his career. Same Igor who had a couple loses in his early part of his career. I'm talking about a complete unblemish record from the start all the way to 40 wins. That's never happen and most likely will never happen.

Having 40 wins in between losses is moot point. I'm sure he gained experienced along the way to garner that kind of streak and also have fought cans like you say, but that's not what I'm talking about when comes to a 50-0 record or 40-0 record.

I'm talking about guys who never lost at all.

 

[Elegant]

As someone else said, if it was your primary goal to go 50-0, which means fighting random bums and drug addicts from the streets like Khabib did for the majority of his career, than yes it is possible.

But with the goal to move up the global rankings in your weight class and achieve titles, it's not really possible, and the bad judging in MMA is a huge reason why as well.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

As someone else said, if it was your primary goal to go 50-0, which means fighting random bums and drug addicts from the streets like Khabib did for the majority of his career, than yes it is possible.

But with the goal to move up the global rankings in your weight class and achieve titles, it's not really possible, and the bad judging in MMA is a huge reason why as well.

Not even Khabib could do a 50-0 record. He would have to fight top 5 guys till he reached 50-0. It's highly unlikely. In fact I don't think it's possible.

As for those bums, you can lose to bums to by unknown factors. Anyone can lose anytime even more so in an MMA fight where you have more options in beating an opponent.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

As someone else said, if it was your primary goal to go 50-0, which means fighting random bums and drug addicts from the streets like Khabib did for the majority of his career, than yes it is possible.

But with the goal to move up the global rankings in your weight class and achieve titles, it's not really possible, and the bad judging in MMA is a huge reason why as well.

Chances are you would be in the UFC also. The UFC is going to want to have you fight someone who will take away your 0, and even if you keep winning, the UFC will only book you two or three times a year. The fighter will eventually get old and take a loss before stepping down in competition.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Travis Fulton I knew he'd be brought up. But you are talking about win streak after he had losses early in his career. Same Igor who had a couple loses in his early part of his career. I'm talking about a complete unblemish record from the start all the way to 40 wins. That's never happen and most likely will never happen.

Having 40 wins in between losses is moot point. I'm sure he gained experienced along the way to garner that kind of streak and also have fought cans like you say, but that's not what I'm talking about when comes to a 50-0 record or 40-0 record.

I'm talking about guys who never lost at all.

It's not a moot point. Beating 50 people in a row is very relevant to going 50-0. It shows that it is literally possible. There are many young fighters who would beat up Travis Fulton during his large win streaks, he wasn't going on those streaks just because he had a lot of experience, he was just on another level from tomato cans (as anyone who is a career fighter will be).

Early losses are an actual moot point, because it's already a given that if someone lost during their formative years they can't be 50-0. The point isn't that Fulton was 39-0, it was was that someone who wasn't even that high level of a fighter could win 39 times in a row, which is a prerequisite for going 50-0. Fulton actually did beat 50 cans in a row. His losses came against non-cans.

We can agree that fighters can go 10-0, 15-0, 20-0. You can be a seasoned fighter and have an undefeated record. So if you just scaled back your competition or never increased your competition in the first place, you would have the experience of someone like Fulton during his run.

In other words, if you managed to go 27-0, you're not a rookie. So if you're still fighting guys who are 1-5 when you're 27-0, it's pretty obvious the latter is going to win the fight.


It's definitely possible to go 50-0 fighting people who have no intentions of being professional mixed martial arts. This scenario isn't that realistic, but if enough people tried it, it would happen. I dont really get how it wouldnt.





To summarize my point more clearly:

If someone can go from 0-0 to becoming a Travis Fulton level fighter while being undefeated, then they could go 50-0 by fighting cans. We already know this is the bare minimum "level" you need to beat 50 cans in a row. And many many many people who are undefeated today are better than Travis Fulton.