Law Do you support Zohan Mamdani's call for ban of AR15s?

[scoopj]

Yes, I support the banning of AR-15's and the like. And if you have a problem with that you have a problem with Ozzy Ozbourne.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Just lip service. New York isn't even big on gun ownership the people who have guns in NY are 1) cops 2 ) criminals.

 

[scoopj]

BTW fedoriswar37 is so horny right now he could hump a woman who didn't put up resistance.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

just a straight up lie. they literally seized 800-something guns in 2023. weapons =/= firearms.

Lie? Lol no.
https://tnc.news/2023/12/13/cbsa-sa...canada-via-canada-post/?utm_source=perplexity
CBSA says it has seized 68,000 guns smuggled into Canada via Canada Post

A new report from the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) revealed that over 68,000 guns have been seized by federal agents in cross-border mail from 2018-2022.

you think if guns are illegal in the US, or any other western nation for that matter, people would immediately get the same supply from china? illegally? over the water?

Same supply, probably not - but a large supply. Hence all the major black items in north America that arrives via Asia

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Gun crime hasn’t risen in Canada as a result of legal imports or an increase in licensed gun ownership.

legal imports become illegal guns. same goes for weapons in america, made in america. every gun, outside of a 3D printer, is made with the intention of legal sale and ownership. smith & wesson doesn't have an "unregistered firearms" division. as legal imports increase, illegal gun ownership increases. this isn't a debate.

You can look up the statistics in some of the larger cities, the majority of guns used in crime are smuggled from the US, up to 90% in some regions, and the crimes are committed by unlicensed individuals.

again, they're not seizing these guns on any sort of significant scale, so either there's barely any gun crime, or you're simply wrong. and once again, legal manufacturing CREATES illegal gun ownership.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Lie? Lol no.
https://tnc.news/2023/12/13/cbsa-sa...canada-via-canada-post/?utm_source=perplexity
CBSA says it has seized 68,000 guns smuggled into Canada via Canada Post

A new report from the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) revealed that over 68,000 guns have been seized by federal agents in cross-border mail from 2018-2022.

again, either a blatant lie or negligent misuse of the word "firearm". they're confusing the term "weapons" for "firearms."

the CBSA hasn't seized even 1,000 firearms per year since 2018, per their own reports.

Canada Border Services Agency enforcement action statistics

CBSA facilitates legitimate travel and trade entering Canada; we keep inadmissible goods and people from entering Canada and we remove inadmissible persons from Canada.

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca

stop citing some random AI-powered ad-covered news aggregator when the CBSA documents themself prove you wrong.

that said, i'm sure many more are getting through that we don't know about. you could even say it might be 10,000-20,000 a year. mexico is smuggling in hundreds of thousands a year. it's legitimately not even comparable.

Same supply, probably not - but a large supply. Hence all the major black items in north America that arrives via Asia

like what? you can ship a teddy bear with heroin in it. you can't really ship a teddy bear with a QBZ95 in it.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

again, either a blatant lie or negligent misuse of the word "firearm". they're confusing the term "weapons" for "firearms."

the CBSA hasn't seized even 1,000 firearms per year since 2018, per their own reports.

Canada Border Services Agency enforcement action statistics

CBSA facilitates legitimate travel and trade entering Canada; we keep inadmissible goods and people from entering Canada and we remove inadmissible persons from Canada.

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca

You didn't read it; the canadian post inspection unit were the only entity that could search suspicious packages, of which then federal agents turned over to the CBSA. It doesn't count as at boarder seizures statistics directly but shows the amount that are traveling in.

The bill that would allow border agents to directly examine packages never passed, hence why you don't see fire arms confiscated by other means indicated in their stats.

stop citing some random AI-powered ad-covered news aggregator when the CBSA documents themself prove you wrong.

The news articles are legit and are sourcing the CBSA themselves.

that said, i'm sure many more are getting through that we don't know about. you could even say it might be 10,000-20,000 a year. mexico is smuggling in hundreds of thousands a year. it's legitimately not even comparable.

Yeah mexico is almost 4 times the size of canada and has a higher demand. Doesn't negate the point that can has an abundance of guns entering with almost a 20x less murder rate per capita than mexico despite also having laxer gun ownership laws.

like what? you can ship a teddy bear with heroin in it. you can't really ship a teddy bear with a QBZ95 in it.

assembled guns come in large shipments (how much of global trade shipments get inspected at point of delivery?)

But parts are easily shipped and easily assembled.

 

[Stoic1]

You know what Mexico and Canada should do to stop the incredibly large numbers of illegal guns entering their country?

BUILD A HUGE FUCKIN WALL AND ENFORCE THE BORDER.

(Also, my drill press goes whiirrrrrrrrrr)

 

[ermac88]

I hope they ban rapes, maybe put up some rape free zone signs.

Ban rapes???




Fuck outta here!

 

[Koya]

I don't care what NYC does with guns. If they want to get guns out of the city, so be it. Probably need to focus on hand guns not AR15s however if you're worried about city wide gun violence.

Given that America is sliding into fascism nationally, probably a good idea hold onto the guns, imo.

I think the good idea was what Western Europe did, not allow civilians to carry firearms from the start.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

not AR15s specifically but all "Assault Rifles" which includes AK47s and basically all magazine fed semi automatic assault rifles

Do you support his plan?

Oh God... This tired subject again.



There's 40+ million 'assault rifles' privately owned in the entire country, and a small percentage of gun violence involves assault rifles, and I imagine an even smaller percentage of the gun violence in NYC involves assault rifles.

This is a bullshit discussion to distract from how NYC's violent crime has risen under Democrat rule due to Democrat policies.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Only "assault" rifles?



I guess his latest tantrum is in response to the Manhattan mass shooter (who used a handgun).

Another obvious tactic Democrats have used for decades - Pretend they're only trying to ban assault rifles... The 'weapons of war'... when pistols are used in 95+% of crime because they're easily concealed.

As I said in my post above this is just a distraction, and Democrats are using talking points from decades ago that lead to absolutely nothing.

 

[My Spot]

You didn't read it; the canadian post inspection unit were the only entity that could search suspicious packages, of which then federal agents turned over to the CBSA. It doesn't count as at boarder seizures statistics directly but shows the amount that are traveling in.

The bill that would allow border agents to directly examine packages never passed, hence why you don't see fire arms confiscated by other means indicated in their stats.



The news articles are legit and are sourcing the CBSA themselves.


Yeah mexico is almost 4 times the size of canada and has a higher demand. Doesn't negate the point that can has an abundance of guns entering with almost a 20x less murder rate per capita than mexico despite also having laxer gun ownership laws.



assembled guns come in large shipments (how much of global trade shipments get inspected at point of delivery?)

But parts are easily shipped and easily assembled.

Kaz is still falling for that 90% nonsense that was debunked like 15 years ago.

 

[The XL]

NYC gets to decide between a bunch of bought and paid for Jewish proxies or a communist extremist Muslim. How wonderful.

You gotta love how in this country your choices don't represent the white majority or even larger minority groups. Some 'democracy.' The government from top to bottom is completely illegitimate and only rules through force.

 

[RemyR]

No because it's like giving someone with cancer some Tylenol so they feel better. It doesn't deal with the underlying symptom: the overall decline of mental health people have these days.

I own 6 guns. Do you know how many people were shot by these guns? None, because I'm a very happy and content person. I'd wager if I were to take a gun and hand it to even the leftist posters for gun control here they wouldn't shoot anyone either. It takes an extremely sick person to want to do this, someone with issues that started way before they had a gun in their hand. The gun isn't the issue, it's the person holding the gun.

People need to stop focusing on the tools and start focusing on the actual motives. ARs (and semi automatic firearms in general) have been available for purchase for decades now, but now it's a problem? If the tools available aren't changing but shootings are getting worse that's a clear sign that people just cannot handle themselves anymore.

Furthermore, I'd like to point out that most shootings are done with a pistol as opposed to rifles. Fun fact: Colombine (first major school shooting i can remember in my lifetime) happened during an AR ban. Banning ARs did not prevent it. It's just changing the tool used.

 

[nhbbear]

NOPE. In the middle of an AR build now....& its pretty epic

Also, here in Arizona in all the car social media groups EVERYDAY there are Ring or home surveillance videos of people armed with ARs or AKs stealing performance cars or sports cars right out of people's driveways in suburban areas....Movie type shit. Like 3 dudes pull up. Block your driveway. One guy is the get away driver who sits in the running car. One guy literally stands lookout with their rifle focused at your home . Other guy breaks into and steals the car. Lookout hops back into the getaway car. Both cars take off.

If somebody comes to my front door with semi auto or automatic high capacity weapons fuck anybody who tries to tell me to use my revolver, my pistols, my shotgun, a butter knife, my hands, or to call the police to protect my family or my property. Especially when its a daily occurrence in many areas throughout the country.

Its fkn 2025 in the height of gun culture. The cat's out the bag, you cant put it back in. Domestic & foriegn criminals will continue to have easy access to a plethora of weapons & no laws will ever stop them in our country. So as a trained, responsible, law abiding citizen I want the right to match or have superior fire power.

I use to rely on personal protection trained dogs or guard dogs before I got into 2A stuff. Now im not about to hope or send my dogs after terrorist gang members with assualt rifles to get shot up.

Its also not even about some strange larp or fantasy about getting into a shootout with "bad guys." Its about me knowing I at least had a fighting chance to protect my family, my neighbors, or myself if things escalated or if they crashed out.

I am not a gun nut at all, but I am a 2A nut for exactly these reasons. I am sick of o Lt the criminals having the guns

 

[nhbbear]

Yes. AR-style rifle has shown to be an incredibly effective weapon for white school shooters looking to do a lot of damage in a short time at medium ranges.

And handguns in the hands of black gang members have shown to have a body count that is infinitely higher than all the AR rifles combined ever.

 

[nhbbear]

Ya know I constantly beg the left to remove gun control from the platform and to stop proposing these nonsense laws and I constantly get shit on for that being my line in the sand.

I'd rather the second ammendment not be a left right issue but here we are. There's a lot of things the democrats need a super majority to pass that I think would be good things for the country....but I'm leery of giving the democrats any kind of majority because I'm skeptical that they would actually go for things like healthcare and student debt and gun control would be their first target.

I'm available if the democrats/left want my vote back but I'm not holding my breath

I am in the same boat. My vote is up for sale for the first party that is not completely retarded. Kamala having an anti gun stance is why she didn’t get my vote. I didn’t vote for the madman, either

 

[nhbbear]

You have to pay money and get permission from the NYPD just to own something like a bolt action rifle or pump shotgun in your home.
Handgun permit is $340, rifle/shotgun is $140. Plus the $90 for fingerprinting.

And unless you're rich and/or politically connected then good luck getting a carry permit (of course off duty and retired cops are exempt like always).

Sacramento has gone even further with charging gun owners a “harm reduction fee” to offset some of the costs caused by gun violence even though it’s not legal gun owners doing all the shooting. Imagine having to pay for one of your constitutional rights?! Imagine having to pay to get a permit to express your first amendment rights. It’s insane

 

[nhbbear]

Its ridiculous for either side to claim they support the current constitution when one side is complicit and supportive of any & all policy for fascist attacks on human rights, incarceration, immunity or lack of consequences for the powerful & elite, the incarceration for their political opponents with no crimes committed, denying federal funding for legal protests or sovereignty, & the continued militarization of the police or law enforcement to drum up more charges & arrest.

Then you have my side that is very uneducated historically & tactically on firearms. Pretty naive & sheltered at a time like this cry "fascist dictatorship...Hitler..Democracy is fallen....Judges & Politicians are bought & paid for...etc" 24/7 & not recognize that when these pillars actually due fall whether its tommorow or 70 years from now you are going to regret letting morally bankrupt far right wingers having the world's biggest arsenal/militia & the morally just people on the right side of history having pillows.... An argument against 2A is actually admission that America isn't as fallen as we constantly push.

Also, would add that this stems from us gun owerners being irresponsible, not taking guns seriously, & being just as ignorant & uneducated on the dangers of easy access to firearms as the left.
Then when we see constitutional violations or clear right wing corruption there is no way in hell 99% of right wingers would ever take up a fight against an authoritarian corrupt regime. The true OG intent of 2A. Which in the grand scheme of things is better than violence, real revolution, or a civil war.

As much as I hate centrist currently I find both sides pretty insufferable on the issues & just fallback to "Dont inconvenience me or take away any of my personal freedoms. You dont get to tell me whats best for my family."

Why does the left hate centrists so much? I have gotten so much hate from the left because I did not vote for either candidate. One cunt even called me spineless for not picking between two terrible candidates. On one side, a mad man and on the other, a twit that talks about taking guns. It was an impossible choice for me.