Do you hold OUTLAW BIKERS in a high regared?

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There's no denying the mystique of outlaw bikers:

A band of loyal brothers, in black vests, on the open road, riding towards the sunset, etc. Anti society, tough, playing by their own rules etc. Admired by many, feard by all.

Do you admire outlaw bikers? Do you hold them in a high esteem? Or are they nothing but adult adolecents who cannot adapt to society?

Let's talk about it here.

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Lisa Ling with the Mongols MC

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Yes. White gangsters are OK in my book.
 
As far as "loyalty and brotherhood" goes, these guys rat each other out and fuck each other over all the damn time.

This. Drop the threat of a K on a junkie
& he almost always breaks. Imo, bikers,
like all forms of gangsters, are sort of played
out, sensationalized racist gimmicks.
 
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This should be interesting.
 
No I don't respect any gang members. At it's heart every gang is a collection of punk bitches who are too afraid to stand on their own as a man. A real man only resorts to violence when all else fails, and never needs to bring buddies or weapons to a fight.

You know a lot of people join gangs when they're very young just to feel accepted, right? They do it because they feel it's like their only family, which is why so many people who are in gangs come from broken homes and families. They're young impressionable kids. If they're growing up poor and they see people not much older than them walking around with expensive clothes, jewelry, cars, etc - it plays on them and they want it, too. It's not like all gang members love being in a gang once they find out what the life is truly all about, most of them regret it and can't get out of the gang or else they'll be murdered for it. Once you're in, there's no way out - depending what gang it is.

Not all of them are assholes and look for trouble on a daily basis - it really depends what gang you're in, though.
 
You know a lot of people join gangs when they're very young just to feel accepted, right? They do it because they feel it's like their only family, which is why so many people who are in gangs come from broken homes and families. They're young impressionable kids. If they're growing up poor and they see people not much older than them walking around with expensive clothes, jewelry, cars, etc - it plays on them and they want it, too. It's not like all gang members love being in a gang once they find out what the life is truly all about, most of them regret it and can't get out of the gang or else they'll be murdered for it. Once you're in, there's no way out - depending what gang it is.

Not all of them are assholes and look for trouble on a daily basis - it really depends what gang you're in, though.

If you watch the vid I posted above, the majority of these guys need a hug. They all talk about how the MC showed them love, and accepted them, and looked after them etc. Seems like they are emotionally damaged men.
 
Only when capitalized.

I can't stand bikers. Obnoxious drunken trolls.
 
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Serious? This is nothing more than a PR stunt.

Love the way these bikers treat their women hang a rounds....curb stomping and raping them. They get patches of honor for participating in gang rape, murder, assault and other criminal acts. But on the bright side, they do pass out toys on Christmas, so they're good guys.

I knew a dude that worked at a strip club owned by outlaw bikers, and me and him started hanging out and partying one summer maybe 5 years ago. He was friends with some of the strippers there some of them regularly ended up at parties at his house or just hanging out with me, him and 1 other buddy.

Not far from the club (like half a block) the bikers owned this old run down house that a lot of the girls stayed at, and they charged ridiculous rent. A lot of these girls came from broken homes, off the street, had drug (cocaine) problems, etc and would have trouble getting a place on their own, so they didn't have anywhere else to go. They were basically trapped at this shithole because of how much rent they were paying, and a good chunk of the money went straight back to the bikers -- it was almost like human trafficking. It was pretty sad to see actually, because most of them were decent looking girls in their early 20s and if you saw them at college/uni you'd just think there some regular chick.

I never heard any stories of rape, assaults, etc, but they basically owned these girls and used them for profit.
 
Hells Angels no, bikers on an roadtrip with no destination yes.
 
Indifferent as long as they aren't hurting anyone

I don't care if someone rides around doing drugs and minding their own business. But when they start robbing and attacking innocents, then fuck em

They seem to be much nicer to have around than other gangs though
 
You know a lot of people join gangs when they're very young just to feel accepted, right? They do it because they feel it's like their only family, which is why so many people who are in gangs come from broken homes and families. They're young impressionable kids. If they're growing up poor and they see people not much older than them walking around with expensive clothes, jewelry, cars, etc - it plays on them and they want it, too. It's not like all gang members love being in a gang once they find out what the life is truly all about, most of them regret it and can't get out of the gang or else they'll be murdered for it. Once you're in, there's no way out - depending what gang it is.

Not all of them are assholes and look for trouble on a daily basis - it really depends what gang you're in, though.

There is truth to this.
My brothers joined a gang at a very young age.
No glorified bullshit. They rolled with legit so cal
killers. Bad men.& They had homies who were as
young as 11. Smoking meth, doing dirt...

Basically, kids who were highly
impressionable, running away from dysfunction
at home & looking for validation from older, more
respected men. It starts out small... put in some
work here & there... pick up a few bad habits along
the way of strengthening bonds. Until someone
inevitably gets killed & now you got your loyalty
challenged. Now you gotta rep your set. & I feel like
this is the breaking point. There's a lot of pressure on
an individual to respond appropriately in these
moments & imo, is when people start seeing the
vicious cycle that lies behind & ahead of them.
Not everyone makes it out... ultimately, what breeds
all of this is human nature of wanting to belong to
a group, as we are social animals. But what perpetuates
it is a childhood of dysfunction & an inability to cope
with the demands of young adolescence, alone.

To me, gangs make sense. & will always be apart
of society. Especially while drugs are illegal, as they,
more often than not, are merely an organization
Which reflect capitalist ethics & business models
that placate into the demands and addictions of urban
areas. There needs to be a reformation of families,
as well as the prison industrial complex & it's sister
"War on drugs" effort to be able to move towards
ridding their appeal. But ultimately, people will be
people. & if they don't find the appeal in the money,
they'll find it in the comraderie. Regardless of how
contrived, fickle & fleeting it may be.
 
There's no denying the mystique of outlaw bikers:

A band of loyal brothers, in black vests, on the open road, riding towards the sunset, etc. Anti society, tough, playing by their own rules etc. Admired by many, feard by all.

Do you admire outlaw bikers? Do you hold them in a high esteem? Or are they nothing but adult adolecents who cannot adapt to society?

Let's talk about it here.

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Nah. Run of the mill criminals, junkies and bullies that like to wrap up their antisocial behavior in some bullshit "brotherhood, honor and freedom" type narrative.

Knew a couple of low level guys like this, couldn't have a single conversation without it steering towards the topics of sex, drugs or violence within a few minutes. Both seemed emotionally and intellectually stunted. Both would probably murder each other if the money was right, too. Guys that constantly ramble on about honor and brotherhood are generally the least honorable and most treacherous dudes you'll find.

And for the record, we're talking about OUTLAW BIKERS like TS stated. I don't have a problem with bikers in general, other than the obnoxious "look at me" super loud chopper dudes.
 
lol no. Bunch of drugged out, drunk, look at how cool we are guys imo.

 
Judging from the comments it seems the Biker's are different than the "Bikies" in Australia.

Same gangs (Hells Angels, Bandidos and now even the Mongols) but they are essentially the apex criminal organisation in Australia, no one DARES fucks with bikies over there.

They make an absolute killing in the drug game, and all patched members are given a $50,000 giant gold chain as an initiation gift (amongst other jewelry).

Their murder rates are high for Australian standards. Their wars are vicious and they are not afraid to fuck with rich businessmen or politician. Torture is very common. If a bar bans them then that bar may expect to be firebombed.

They are getting more violent now with an influx of Middle Eastern gangsters. These young refugee/immigrants from Iran and Afghanistan don't know the first thing about bikes but they are made associates and put to work. Their absolute viciousness makes the all the more terrifying.

Although the police are coming down hard on them, there is still a lot of government corruption involved. Some gangs had guys on the electric company on their payroll. IF someones electricity bill spiked it usually meant they were growing weed. They would sell this info to bikie who would storm in with guns, torture the occupants and take all the drugs and money for themselves. Absolutely terrifying.


What upsets me is that media like Vice, in an attempt to look Hipster, try to paint the Bikies as victims of a government who just "doesnt understand their lifestyle" and that are groups that just have a 'few bad apples' that give the majority a bad name.

This is bullshit. For starters I doubt they could accumulate their vast wealth through gang membership fees. Vice focuses on "The Rebels" who even though are not as violent as say the Mongols (formerly Finks) or Hells Angels they are still a vast criminal enterprise. Their leader is a multimillionaire who cant exactly explain his wealth other than 'property investment' and a bike importing business.

It would be okay if they stuck to themselves but they hunt down rich people to harass. The Finks used to hand out "Fink Fines" to wealthy people. They have brawls and shootouts in public places and civilians have been killed in the cross fire.

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They might look innocent enough, but those heavy gold chains are pure solid chunks of 18 karat gold. Once you are patched you are usually not involved in the daily dangerous activities of the gang, and this is reserved for the associates. Because the patched members do not directly torture people (most of the time at least) they use this as an excuse to suggest the gangs are innocent.

This.
 
Why would anyone hold them in high regard? They don't have any admirable qualities. Mostly low level criminal dropouts.
 
The biker gang that was on bad grampa guardians of children helped abused kids. I'm sure they broke the law from time to time but I would hold them in high regard.
 
My uncle was/is a member of the bandidos. He's highly intelligent, designs cabinets for airplanes and such. Definitely not your common biker, I guess.

I don't really care about bikers myself. Wouldn't fuck with them.
 
True, but you also have to recognize these clubs like Hells Angels, Mongols, Bandidos are in the US and other developed countries for the most part. They have to operate within the law to some extent as they have a real government on their back. The Cartels operate in third world countries where the rule of law is non existent.

The 1% gangs are pretty tough men and I as sure as hell would not try to start any trouble with them.

anyone with half a brain would not try to start any trouble with ANY group of people that outnumber him.
 
I remember a few weeks back there was a sherbro saying he played a band gig for a Hell's Angel funeral. They made him play Born to be Wild like 4 times in a row and I was like that's lame as shit

Yakuza my fav organized crime outfit

On a similar note Azn bike gangs are badass though

 
this bump reminded me of hollywood nicky
 
They're basically the mafia around here.

Unless you wrong them you've got no reason to fear them though.
 
Cant stand those loud ass bikes, reminds of the south park episode someone already put up, if they used quieter bikes i would not give a shit, but fuck i hate when those things pUll up next to me
 
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7 of those guys are balls deep into each other every night.

Exactly how I felt when I saw the pic.
West Coast bikers would boot party all those
dudes. And I feel like there's a solid seven of em
who might get off on it.
 
It fascinates me, how they build a organisation like that.
With prospects and different ranks, the leader is usually a charismatic guy.
Am offcourse against the criminal aspect of it.
I read some stuff about Mom Boucher, and it was interesting



But I don't watch Sons of Anarchy.
 
May they all die violently in traffic accidents.
 
There is truth to this.
My brothers joined a gang at a very young age.
No glorified bullshit. They rolled with legit so cal
killers. Bad men.& They had homies who were as
young as 11. Smoking meth, doing dirt...

what was the name of the gang?
 
I like bikers. I find them to be friendly and fun in general and think they do great things for charity.

Outlaw bikers are usually pieces of sh!t though. They are white crips and bloods, conservative white guys who love the guys need to realize that.
 
Judging from the comments it seems the Biker's are different than the "Bikies" in Australia.

Same gangs (Hells Angels, Bandidos and now even the Mongols) but they are essentially the apex criminal organisation in Australia, no one DARES fucks with bikies over there.

They make an absolute killing in the drug game, and all patched members are given a $50,000 giant gold chain as an initiation gift (amongst other jewelry).

Their murder rates are high for Australian standards. Their wars are vicious and they are not afraid to fuck with rich businessmen or politician. Torture is very common. If a bar bans them then that bar may expect to be firebombed.

They are getting more violent now with an influx of Middle Eastern gangsters. These young refugee/immigrants from Iran and Afghanistan don't know the first thing about bikes but they are made associates and put to work. Their absolute viciousness makes the all the more terrifying.

Although the police are coming down hard on them, there is still a lot of government corruption involved. Some gangs had guys on the electric company on their payroll. IF someones electricity bill spiked it usually meant they were growing weed. They would sell this info to bikie who would storm in with guns, torture the occupants and take all the drugs and money for themselves. Absolutely terrifying.


What upsets me is that media like Vice, in an attempt to look Hipster, try to paint the Bikies as victims of a government who just "doesnt understand their lifestyle" and that are groups that just have a 'few bad apples' that give the majority a bad name.

This is bullshit. For starters I doubt they could accumulate their vast wealth through gang membership fees. Vice focuses on "The Rebels" who even though are not as violent as say the Mongols (formerly Finks) or Hells Angels they are still a vast criminal enterprise. Their leader is a multimillionaire who cant exactly explain his wealth other than 'property investment' and a bike importing business.

It would be okay if they stuck to themselves but they hunt down rich people to harass. The Finks used to hand out "Fink Fines" to wealthy people. They have brawls and shootouts in public places and civilians have been killed in the cross fire.

764420-bikies.jpg


They might look innocent enough, but those heavy gold chains are pure solid chunks of 18 karat gold. Once you are patched you are usually not involved in the daily dangerous activities of the gang, and this is reserved for the associates. Because the patched members do not directly torture people (most of the time at least) they use this as an excuse to suggest the gangs are innocent.
 
Sure, most are but most reasonable people either know that or think that, so why does it matter as long as little timmy whose parents beat each other and spend all their money on heroin gets a present for christmas?


Yes, I've seen your American altercations at charity drives... Like I've already said I can only talk from an Australian POV and Australia is very, very different from America. Over here clubs have worked together on multiple issues. Most often when it affects their lifestyle, but joint charity runs and members from 1 club contributing to another clubs fundraiser for a sick member/old lady/random child are not unknown.

Do the current and/or ex-military clubs like the Veterans MC or Patriots MC fit into your view of MCs as criminal scum?


There is no illusion. I've grown up with MCs around me in my friends families as dads, brothers, uncles. I hold no desire to be apart of that life, It's not for me but I see more than just what the news decides to report.

Is this a joke? We're somehow holding charity drives by criminal organizations to be a positive thing? The mafia gives back to it's local community as well, I guess they get a pass too, we'll just ignore the fact that they are raping the community behind the scenes 99% of the time.
 
I have as much respect for bikers and I do politicians.

The former are small scale criminals, the latter large scale.
 
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