Do you feel there are too many UFC HWs that gas after 1 round?

[2004 account]

Hw's used to endure 10 minute 1st rounds before. Imagine that.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

people laugh at Tim Sylvia, but at 265lbs and 6'8 i never seen him gas as badly as that dwarf Deron Winn and that other guy he beat by being less gassed.

I do think that shows you that fighters like Nog, Fedor, etc being young and in exellent shape is only part of what gave them good cardio, technique also plays a factor.

When your winging massive punches as your only gameplan thats going to sap your cardio much faster than more technical guys.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

It seems there are more than ever so many UFC HW fighters who come in way too out of shape and can barely last 1 round and afterwards are completely gassed out.

Its a proven fact...230-245 lbs is the prime weight for peak performance at HW...


We are seeing more guys cutting to 265 with huge levels of fat on there body....20 to 30% range...this is why we are seeing the gassing

Hardy at 245lbs would be a huge problem at HW as hes not fat at 265..just carrying too much muscle mass to oxygenate for 15 mins let alone 25...

But these other hws

 

[TGArthur]

TS, you may have the worst signature on sherdog.

I can only come the that conclusion because I am able to ignore about 99% of the rest.

Yours looks like another thread.

And here I thought you were one of the better posters on here. I guess I thought wrong. Worst signature? Why because I post where people made bold predictions and wanted their account bans when it didn't come true? Most people would find that humorous.

 

[SuperNerd]

And here I thought you were one of the better posters on here. I guess I thought wrong. Worst signature? Why because I post where people made bold predictions and wanted their account bans when it didn't come true? Most people would find that humorous.

lol lighten up.. I was having fun.. but..

Yes your signature is pure garbage. It's ugly, its massive, and nobody gives a fuck about it.

I'm also not here pandering for likes and friends, so spare me this nonsense.. My opinion of your signature changes the quality of my posting? That only speaks lesser of your opinion and what it takes to manipulate it. Not of mine.

 

[TR1]

It's ok guys.

Chris Daukaus is going to take this bum division by storm.

 

[Gutter Chris]

I blame USADA

Me too actually

Lhw and hw used to be awesome and full of uber fighters and epic finishes and now both divisions are in shambles.

Imagine what would happen to football if it got the usada treatment....no one wants to see themselves as pro athletes they wanna see xmen.

 

[TGArthur]

lol lighten up.. I was having fun.. but..

Yes your signature is pure garbage. It's ugly, its massive, and nobody gives a fuck about it.

I'm also not here pandering for likes and friends, so spare me this nonsense.. My opinion of your signature changes the quality of my posting? That only speaks lesser of your opinion and what it takes to manipulate it. Not of mine.

lol at nobody gives a fuck. Yet people have complimented on it before and ALL the time people bump threads with outrageous claims that many on here find entertaining.

You basing your opinion of my thread based on my signature is not easy manipulation but obviously shows the absurdity of your post. But please, continue with your false narratives.

 

[SuperNerd]

lol at nobody gives a fuck. Yet people have complimented on it before and ALL the time people bump threads with outrageous claims that many on here find entertaining

Those bumps last for a few mins. Your large, ugly signature has been there for ages. I'm forced to endure it regularly, and its hard to ignore. I literally need to hit another scroll of my mouse to get passed it.

You basing my thread based on my signature is not easy manipulation but obviously shows the absurdity of your post. But please, continue with your false narratives.

Bashing your thread? False narrative? What are you on?

I made a off topic post that was irrelevant to your thread. I've yet to comment on the subject.

Lighten up bud.

 

[TJ177]

Lesnar was the exception to the rule because even when he weighed 265+ he would never actually gas. But it's almost certainly because he had the same staff as from his college wrestling days, all of whom were J Robinson disciples who prioritized endurance over everything else (including striking fundamentals). Lesnar competed in the UFC with virtually no actual real fighting experience and based everything on 80s J Rob wrestling conditioning and training (likely including the pharma help).

There are a lot of things that could be said about Lesnar (including what would happen in a USADA world) but there is no one that could argue that the guy didn't train as hard as anyone. It might not have always been the RIGHT training, but he would never gas after 1 round, that's for sure.

 

[TGArthur]

Those bumps last for a few mins. Your large, ugly signature has been there for ages. I'm forced to endure it regularly, and its hard to ignore. I literally need to hit another scroll of my mouse to get passed it.



Bashing your thread? False narrative? What are you on?

I made a off topic post that was irrelevant to your thread. I've yet to comment on the subject.

Lighten up bud.

 

[beroisimo**]

Prime Cain would run through this division

Big fan of Cain, but Stipe would have knocked him out.

Bad stylistic match up.

 

[beroisimo**]

Hw's used to endure 10 minute 1st rounds before. Imagine that.

Are you referring to the promotion which had the poorest drug testing ever, and which fixed fights all the time?

 

[chiefwiggum]

Since covid the majority of the hw I see are big titted goons.
Not just here or there but most of these guys are big knockered.

if there is a guy I haven’t seen before at hw.in the ufc. He’s most likely going to have a big set of cans.

I mean no joke these guys could get titty fucked.

and that’s all the rage now. So I guess that a huge compliment to these hw.

 

[TheMessiah]

Big fan of Cain, but Stipe would have knocked him out.

Bad stylistic match up.

Im talking prime Cain. Wouldn't be an old washed up guy Stipe normally faces

 

[gevoudane]

Im talking prime Cain. Wouldn't be an old washed up guy Stipe normally faces

Cain is one of the most over hyped UFC fighters. No version of Cain beats Stipe.

 

[chiefwiggum]

Big fan of Cain, but Stipe would have knocked him out.

Bad stylistic match up.

stipe has no quality wins against any prime fighter. Stipe and Cain both got the greatest ever hw treatment despite many fighters with much better resumes and wins. From the ufc hype machine.

Cain was the goat with 10 fughts and stipe when he had 15. Ufc is a promotional juggernaut and if you have no perspective on the sport and watched fights from the guys long before them. You no you but fans. just believe what they tell them to.

I mean watch just any fight that goes on today. Everything is ooohhhhs and aaaahhhhs. Everyone is so complete. And don’t believe your lying eyes.

I mean stipe is an ok boxer. He’s Very slow. Ok power. But every hw has that. Ok wrestling. No submissions. Bad footwork. Poor defense. And he’s the greatest of all time?
He’s fighting at the perfect time for a hw to look good.
Derrick Lewis fought for a title. Overeem can get at it again. Curtis Blaydes. Jairzhino. Who I love watching fight but he’s like yvel of modern day but ranked way higher.
To oleynik. And even in his prime wasn’t a top 10 guy but he is as a mid 40 year old man. Tybura and Walt Harris right in the top 10. This shot version of overeem. And I love the demolition man. But come on.
And nganou. He’s an absolute novice when he fought for the title. And fought for 3 mins in 4 years.

But cain in his day was a better fighter than stipe. Neith guy is a top 5 he of all time. But stipe apparently is the greatest fighter who ever lived.

all IMO. Take no offense. Just some asshole who has seen all of these guys career and has massive perspective on this tiny sport.

 

[acannxr]

Are you referring to the promotion which had the poorest drug testing ever

It's actually better for performance to taper off steroids for 10 days, which is precisely what UFC fighters would do pre-USADA in order to pass all their tests, so there really isn't a difference between Pride and the UFC when it comes to drug testing, because all of them had equal opportunity to use PEDs.

 

[jx820]

I can barely last 2 minutes in bed with my wife. So I'm not going to talk too much shit about a professional athlete only being able to last 5 minutes.


And by my wife, I mean your mom.

Dad... We've talked about this. Not the place for this kind of talk.

 

[jx820]

HW has always been the worst division in the sport. The best guys can do 5 rounds, but most can't do 2. Half the time its two wheezing fatties swinging like slobs while the announcers talk about how great they look.