Opinion Do people really like Adolf Hitler?

[TheGreatA]

And honestly, Hitler probably wasn't even aware of the similarities of what he was doing with the Communists.

I mean, he practically did the same thing. The Jews were the 1% and held a lot of power. It was practically communism. *Edit: Well, in that sense.*

His actions were no different from what the Soviets did, indeed. In fact, he pretty much followed their blue-print, regarding the secret police, labour camps, one-party system, propaganda, purges of "unwanted" persons etc. All of what Hitler did, Stalin had already done first.

 

[TheGreatA]

"Hitler was basically a communist and if people recognized that he would be viewed sympathetically like Stalin, etc." =The War Room

If USSR was still in existence, you better believe that most of your left-wing newspapers would still be serving as its apologists, like they did until its eventual collapse.

 

[Blackened]

"Hitler was basically a communist and if people recognized that he would be viewed sympathetically like Stalin, etc." =The War Room

I don't want him to be viewed sympathetically and I don't want Stalin to be viewed sympathetically either.

His actions were no different from what the Soviets did, indeed. In fact, he pretty much followed their blue-print, regarding the secret police, labour camps, one-party system, propaganda, purges of "unwanted" persons etc. All of what Hitler did, Stalin had already done first.

Exactly!

And Germany is setting the stage for repeating their history, once again!

See if this sounds familiar.

"More than once in Vienna, I saw
absolute contempt and unending hatred flare up between the
Italians and the Austrian State. The sins of the House of Hapsburg against Italian freedom and independence
stretching over centuries was too great to be forgotten. This kind of hatred ran too deep,
neither the people nor the Italian government wanted to forget."

Straight from Mein Kampf. How many Germans do you think feel this way right now?

I think he was right about nationalism and wrong about the one party State/dictatorship.

 

[Blackened]

We are honestly about to see if he was right about this:

There is no doubt that the world will someday be the scene of huge battles for the existence
of mankind. In the end, the craving for self-preservation alone will triumph. That stupid and
cowardly group of humanity that thinks they know more than everyone else will find their
humanitarianism melts like snow in the March sun when they face destruction.

Willing to bet Muslims conquer Germany if there aren't serious changes.

 

[TheGreatA]

We are honestly about to see if he was right about this:

There is no doubt that the world will someday be the scene of huge battles for the existence
of mankind. In the end, the craving for self-preservation alone will triumph. That stupid and
cowardly group of humanity that thinks they know more than everyone else will find their
humanitarianism melts like snow in the March sun when they face destruction.

Willing to bet Muslims conquer Germany if there aren't serious changes.

There's certainly a threat of such predictions coming to pass if we do not fix over-population issues and our dependence on ever-depleting resources.

Muslims are really the least of our problems. I only see the Muslim problem as something that is going to delay us from solving the greater issues at hand. We need to come up with major solutions, fast, and having to spend massive resources into Muslim integration, should really not be on top of the list right now.

It's going to take a century atleast, before Muslims in the West can come to the resolution that their religion should not hold anything more than sentimental value at this point in human civilization. This is not really the time to play a game of catch-up from the medieval times. Those who cannot keep up with development, ought to be left to their own devices, allowing the others to push forward with greater freedom.

 

[Blackened]

There's certainly a threat of such predictions coming to pass if we do not fix over-population issues and our dependence on ever-depleting resources.

Muslims are really the least of our problems. I only see the Muslim problem as something that is going to delay us from solving the greater issues at hand. We need to come up with major solutions, fast, and having to spend massive resources into Muslim integration, should really not be on top of the list right now.

It's going to take a century atleast, before Muslims in the West can come to the resolution that their religion should not hold anything more than sentimental value at this point in human civilization. This is not really the time to play a game of catch-up from the medieval times. Those who cannot keep up with development, ought to be left to their own devices, allowing the others to push forward with greater freedom.

It depends on how many they bring in and if their terrorism brings about conversion to Islam.

Forget delay, if it spreads how it could spread, forget allowing others to push forward with greater freedom, civilization in that part of the world may essentially cease to exist.

Let us not forget we have one group of people trying to conquer (and historically they've been quite successful) another group, all the while the other group is trying to make them feel welcome. It would be hilarious if it weren't so unfortunate.

 

[Limbo Pete]

If USSR was still in existence, you better believe that most of your left-wing newspapers would still be serving as its apologists, like they did until its eventual collapse.

"The left ought to be apologizing for Hitler like they did for Stalin"
-the War Room

 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Hey man, we are all entitled to enjoy a Hitler thread in our own ways imo

I've enjoyed the discussions in this thread and have found them interesting and thought provoking. Sitting on the sidelines and essentially calling people soft Nazi's is a cheap move, in my opinion though.

I think the thread title has influenced this in a bit of a negative way with the use of "like". I've thought Blackened (a reference to the Metallica song I hope?) has put forth a solid, reasonable and fair discussion for his outlook, and to dismiss him isn't right given how he's conducted his discourse here. That said, I can't find myself agreeing with him in his preference of Hitler to Merkel, while not recanting that it was a tad on the hyperbolic side. I don't agree with Merkel's refugee related policies, but while she may hurt her nation with such actions it will not solely be at her feet as much as Germany's ruin under Hitler was.

 

[Gregolian]

I like Hitler.. in the scholastic sense of a person to study.

 

[Tigerknee]

lol the question is ridiculous, do I like hitler? wtf ..

 

[Limbo Pete]

I've enjoyed the discussions in this thread and have found them interesting and thought provoking. Sitting on the sidelines and essentially calling people soft Nazi's is a cheap move, in my opinion though.

I think the thread title has influenced this in a bit of a negative way with the use of "like". I've thought Blackened (a reference to the Metallica song I hope?) has put forth a solid, reasonable and fair discussion for his outlook, and to dismiss him isn't right given how he's conducted his discourse here. That said, I can't find myself agreeing with him in his preference of Hitler to Merkel, while not recanting that it was a tad on the hyperbolic side. I don't agree with Merkel's refugee related policies, but while she may hurt her nation with such actions it will not solely be at her feet as much as Germany's ruin under Hitler was.

Well to each their own I suppose

 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Well to each their own I suppose

Fair enough, I just thought I'd use one my rare posts to jump in for a second, because I've enjoyed the thread. It seems like such a cheap tactic to just passively dismiss him as a Nazi without giving a hint of consideration to things he is putting forth (i.e. not everything is black and white, history is a sickening shade of grey).

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

We are honestly about to see if he was right about this:

There is no doubt that the world will someday be the scene of huge battles for the existence
of mankind. In the end, the craving for self-preservation alone will triumph. That stupid and
cowardly group of humanity that thinks they know more than everyone else will find their
humanitarianism melts like snow in the March sun when they face destruction.

Willing to bet Muslims conquer Germany if there aren't serious changes.

It's odd that someone as seemingly intelligent and reflective as Hitler was also as fucked up and deplorable as he was. Allowing/commanding so many people to suffer and be systematically murdered as he did is truly fucked up. Stalin, Mao -all these dudes. Just fucked up.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Fair enough, I just thought I'd use one my rare posts to jump in for a second, because I've enjoyed the thread. It seems like such a cheap tactic to just passively dismiss him as a Nazi without giving a hint of consideration to things he is putting forth (i.e. not everything is black and white, history is a sickening shade of grey).

I've enjoyed this thread quite a bit too. And no, I don't think my bud @Blackened is a Nazi. I've just been continuously giving him shit over the course of this thread because his posts open him up for it, but it begins and ends there imo. I rarely argue with anyone about anything or take shit very seriously.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

I can blame Hitler for his own conclusions. There's no need for me to examine Germany as a whole to also examine Hitler as an individual. If Germany was antisemitic and Hitler was not then I wouldn't be saying it's one of his bad decisions. If Germany believed in Aryan supremacy but Hitler did not then I wouldn't examine it as one of his beliefs.

Germany at the time was complicated but Hitler's conclusions and ideas are his. He could have made other choices. Maybe we never hear of him if he did and we find ourselves discussing some other German politician. But he made the choices he made and so I judge him based on those.

At the same time why cant people discuss his other aspects freely? Hitler is just another historical figure, all the bad things he did are also just historical events. One is not more important than the other.

 

[Fawlty]

Plot twist: The Sea Peoples were Jews. gogogogogogo

 

[Peteyandjia]

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

And honestly, Hitler probably wasn't even aware of the similarities of what he was doing with the Communists.

I mean, he practically did the same thing. The Jews were the 1% and held a lot of power. It was practically communism. *Edit: Well, in that sense.*

Most of the jews he killed were poor. He purged important jews but they ran away to a place called the USA.

 

[ens189]

That asshole still owes me ten bucks

Interest on that is gonna be pretty substantial.

 

[11_others]

You also said he was better than Merkel.

To be fair, anybody is better than Merkel.