Law Disney Special District repeal might cost Floridians $1 Billion

[MaxMMA]

Do you know why that thread was wastelanded? When another thread is being made now by a mod?

More commie style censorship.

 

[HOLA]

the cost of fighting leftism is worth it. otherwise we get a nation full of retards like metatron who sit at home all day smoking weed, collecting government checks, and stoking racial animus.

Ted Cruz wrote an Op-Ed that ties directly into this all. "Your Woke Money Is No Good Here." It's not so much about fighting leftism as it is about codes of loyalty among thieves. Omertà for banksters.

He gives the game away in it, saying the quiet parts out loud, like how Republican leaders have been deliberately hurting Americans in order to benefit corporations, and in return Republicans won't allow corporations to speak out against Republican talking points without punishment for their disloyalty. It's a truly remarkable piece.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/your-woke-money-is-no-good-here-11619649421

 

[deadon]

That's cool and all but my initial point of concern was the effect on the people in the 2 counties and the residents of the state who are open to a significant increase in their tax burden over what is retaliatory politics. Voting for Trump or DeSantis for President doesn't do shit to address what is going to be a local problem, not a national one.

Think you missed my point but that's ok. Like I said if he shafts the people of Florida and tries to run he's done.
Sorry, I don't think he's that dumb. They're said to release a plan soon.

Until then.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

More commie style censorship.

#blueAnon mod squad are DHS ministry of truth operatives confirmed

 

[M3t4tr0n]

They are, to an extent. Remember they're taxing themselves to pay for services that they're using. In a normal world, they would pay for the extra services they're using while also paying taxes to their local municipality. In that way, they're gaining.

But those are Disney's savings relative to Disney. The other element is that the counties are also saving. They don't have to provide police services to Disney, fire services, water, etc. Disney is paying that themselves with their taxes. Adding those services to the counties raises the costs for the county because everyone has to chip in, not just Disney. And since they can't tax Disney individually, they probably can't generate enough revenue just from Disney to offset the cost. So, they'll have to raise taxes across the board.

Disney's going to lose money here too, they're going to have to pay taxes to the counties and still pay out of pocket for additional services because we know that there's no way those 2 counties can provide enough police, fire, etc. to adequately attend to the parks. So, the way I'm reading it, both the counties and Disney are going to get hit in the wallet. No one wins.

It's worth it if it strokes DeSantis ego.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Think you missed my point but that's ok. Like I said if he shafts the people of Florida and tries to run he's done.
Sorry, I don't think he's that dumb. They're said to release a plan soon.

Until then.

I think I covered it well here

it is actually quite funny how desperate the libs are for a win. After reading the article, first the source, the tax collector of Orange County is a democrat, so obviously he is biased. So first he is a democrat and the article IS speculation in his part

But even further, they phrase the article like this is going to increase tax for these two counties by 20% or 2200 to 2800… but even if they state had to cover this debt, it could be spread out between the entire state, as this was a state action, it would like a dollar per household lol. Basically nothing

It is like this democrat came out and framed this in the worst possible light to give #blueAnon something to cling on to.

you can break it down further by saying Florida has a 4 billion dollar budget surplus this year, since they have gained so much business due to Desantis’s leadership, which would easily cover it, and would be worth it as it makes floridas schools continue to be some of the best in the country

https://floridapolitics.com/archive...xt-year-due-to-federal-funds-booming-economy/

Or that this tax shield for Disney won’t end until next year so they will likely continue to pay off that, no?

or how much more money will these counties be getting from Disney because of this, the tax collector refuses to mention that in his analysis lol

 

[panamaican]

Ted Cruz wrote an Op-Ed that ties directly into this all. "Your Woke Money Is No Good Here." It's not so much about fighting leftism as it is about codes of loyalty among thieves. Omertà for banksters.

He gives the game away in it, saying the quiet parts out loud, like how Republican leaders have been deliberately hurting Americans in order to benefit corporations, and in return Republicans won't allow corporations to speak out against Republican talking points without punishment for their disloyalty. It's a truly remarkable piece.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/your-woke-money-is-no-good-here-11619649421

I'll be impressed if he actually stops taking corporate money. As for the other part, at least we don't have to keep pretending. It does sadly underscore the political conversation and social dynamics. Corporations follow the people because corporations need to sell product. But corporations don't want to pay taxes so they've paid the GOP to reduce their taxes. But the GOP and the customers don't seem to be the same people. It's worth thinking about. The GOP is doing the bidding of the corporations while being opposed to the politics of the people that the corporations are serving? What about the people the GOP have been claiming to serve, they've just been getting the shaft so the GOP can continue to collect corporate donations. Unless you're in the category that benefits from increased tax cuts, their base should be upset.

 

[Yehudim]

We crony capitalism now - libcucks

 

[Islam Imamate]

Do you know why that thread was wastelanded? When another thread is being made now by a mod?

 

[Islam Imamate]

We crony capitalism now - libcucks

Mickey Mouse for governor

 

[Misfit23]

DeSantis today said this will not happen. Tax payers won't see a increase in taxes and its all political nonsense.

Being that he's running for president in two years I'm sure he has a plan. But carry on.

Good thing politicians aren't known for lying.

 

[Islam Imamate]

You know Florida doesn't have a person state income tax.

So when you spread this out in all the other taxes it would be almost nothing.

We do have property taxes though so I bet that's what would get raised. Its also the case that we have an agricultural tax exemption and they could make qualifying for it more restrictive and hence reduce the number of properties that get it. They've done this before, back in the day you just needed a certain number of trees to qualifying but now you need a minimum of 5 acres to qualify for it.

No, Florida law says that they can't tax tax payers differently from each other. This doesn't apply to the special district. So Disney can tax itself at a higher rate because it's a special district but if Disney is no longer in a special district then they have to be taxed like any other Florida landholder. And in this case, that means a much lower tax rate.

The potential problem is that the counties are taking on the municipal services that Disney paid for in the special district but they won't have the power to tax Disney specific to Disney's drain on those resources. To do that, they would have to designate Disney as a...special district. And if they do that, just to tax them more than other corporate landholders, they'll lose that in court pretty quickly.

Disney already paid property taxes under the RCID, they were just exempted from other taxes IIRC.

To complicate matters further IIRC there are laws in Florida which bar counties from raising taxes above a certain amount so what we might see is only a slight increase in taxes but big budget cuts overall.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

We do have property taxes though so I bet that's what would get raised. Its also the case that we have an agricultural tax exemption and they could make qualifying for it more restrictive and hence reduce the number of properties that get it. They've done this before, back in the day you just needed a certain number of trees to qualifying but now you need a minimum of 5 acres to qualify for it.

Disney already paid property taxes under the RCID, they were just exempted from other taxes IIRC.

To complicate matters further IIRC there are laws in Florida which bar counties from raising taxes above a certain amount so what we might see is only a slight increase in taxes but big budget cuts overall.

thankfully there is a budget surplus of 4 billion thanks to Desantis’ leadership throughout COVID and all the people and businesses coming to FL, which would more than cover it and would still be able to give tax cuts. And that is IF the reporting in the OP is true (article where main source is a democrat tax collector who was also a democrat in the state legislature)

but carry with your #blueAnon talking points. “OmG biG BudgET CUts rheeeeee”

 

[Witchhunt]

Because teaching K through 3 kids about fucking is the lynchpin of our civilizations future..

 

[west42]

This is actually a really good consideration.

if they weren't, they would be thanking DeSantis right now. Shit, they would've applied to have their special privileges taken away a long time ago, if there was no benefit to it.

Panic wrestling. That's all this is.

 

[HeLLMuTT]

You shouldn't joke about being bias and rubbing it in peoples faces when you're in trust of the websites owners and obligated to be the complete opposite.

 

[Fugazy]

Doesn’t really seem like anyone itt knows what is going to happen. Good thing we’re all in here arguing.

There are pretty clearly 2 sides to this one.

One side hopes the people of Florida get fucked because it will make DeSantis look bad. They are literally arguing that a megacorp should be able to continue its special tax status. The same people who complain about megacorps abusing tax laws and getting special treatment and tax cuts from the government. They are sure that Desantis will fuck his people and not care whatsoever, based on nothing.

The other side doesn’t seem to think this is a big deal and thinks that Desantis may figure a way around this to prevent the citizens of Florida from having higher taxes.

Weird thread, this one.

 

[LMP]

You shouldn't joke about being bias and rubbing it in peoples faces when you're in trust of the websites owners and obligated to be the complete opposite.

@Khabib Khanate is an elite level mod. Bow down before his iron fist.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Doesn’t really seem like anyone itt knows what is going to happen. Good thing we’re all in here arguing.

There are pretty clearly 2 sides to this one.

One side hopes the people of Florida get fucked because it will make DeSantis look bad. They are literally arguing that a megacorp should be able to continue its special tax status. The same people who complain about megacorps abusing tax laws and getting special treatment and tax cuts from the government. They are sure that Desantis will fuck his people and not care whatsoever, based on nothing.

The other side doesn’t seem to think this is a big deal and thinks that Desantis may figure a way around this to prevent the citizens of Florida from having higher taxes.

Weird thread, this one.

especially when a mod created it after a mod moved the other one lol.

One of those two mods (the one creating this thread or the one who moved the other) should not be a mod, as there is obviously confusion of the forums rules.

I asked for clarification about the other thread, so maybe we’ll see the reasoning

 

[Whippy McGee]

There's a first.... a Leftist decrying a tax increase. The funny part it's all pure unsupported speculation. Leftists have this way of extrapolating the worst in a situation or what a person said without justification.