Media Diego Lopes says that the UFC is no longer allowing champions to move up a weight class without vacating their title

[TITS]

Ilia probably carries slightly more muscle relative to height and like to eat good between fights.

Javi was surpised by it, too.

He would still be fat at 190.

 

[El Fernas]

I mean is there that much more prestige of holding 2 belts simultaneously vs being a 2 weight class champ?

Yes, as long as they have 2 belts no one has claim to be the best guy at either of those divisions, Adesanya was probably the single example of a guy that would had returned to his original division and potentially defend both belts, the rest usually do it when the weight cut has been difficult and they take the free pass to a 2nd belt.

-Conor, super hard weight cut, they already planned on moving to 155 but the UFC gave them the shot at 145, looked like death each and every time.
-DC, difficult weight cut, never dropped back to LHW.
-Cejudo, never looked back at 125, but he also "retired" and got too old to make the cut again.

-Jones, he wasnt the champion at LHW, but he wouldnt return to LHW anyway.
-GSP, not really active at the time of the 2nd belt, and never intended to return to the sport at all, let alone WW, he took a title shot after retirement and continued to be retired after.
-BJ Penn, probably would had return to LW if he had won the 2nd belt (champ champ), he won 2 divisions in separate "runs", never defended WW iirc.

PS: I know Nunes defended both, but, come on now, we are talking real divisions/MMA here.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

He would still be fat at 190.

I agree and he probably gets a paella belly what the fuck do I know, I'm going off what his coaches say just in the case of the cut getting too hard for him, I don't know why they'd lie about it.

 

[rjmbrd]

I mean is there that much more prestige of holding 2 belts simultaneously vs being a 2 weight class champ?

UFC promotional contracts generally afford higher overall pay - both guaranteed and PPV share - when you are a champion. If you move up for a title challenge and lose, you cannot come back to your own division and resume contractually maxed pay.

 

[JoeRowe]

True if very huge

 

[method115]

Translation:


None of the current champs are big enough draws to receive the Conor/BJ special treatment and shit has clearly gone off the rails with every champ talking about getting a shot at a 2nd belt with barely any defenses. (sometimes literally none)


However, if someone in the future can pull a mil ppv buys or more, then we will do what makes us money.

Eh like most rules in the UFC. If you're big enough you can always get around it.

 

[fizzlehiss]

Excellent because making interim belts or making fighters wait however long just to fight the champion is cancer.

 

[AmonTobin]

Good policy if true. Do away with immediate title shots while they’re at it. Winning 2 belts in 3 fights? Get real. This can only be done if the organization lines everything up for the fighter and it’s only done for certain fighters. Where’s the prestige in that? I’ve never liked the division hopping and simultaneous belt hunting. Let’s not turn the best sport in the world into Pokémon.

 

[Squarechoke]

I hope this is true, but I'll believe it when I see it. All steps to keep people from holding up divisions are good.

 

[Luckyme]

Good if this is true. There's no way anyone can defend two belts simultaneously without holding up both divisions. Even someone as active as Poatan wouldn't be able to due to various factors (injuries, time between fights, weight cutting, etc).

 

[AMAZINGUFC]

That is until Conor comes back and says he wants it or even Paddy...
The rule only applies to commoners and not friends of the king.

In time, another idiotic decision by the UFC, because all they have to do is strip the champion of his belt if he doesn't defend it.

It doesn't matter how many belts the fighter may have, but objective criteria that force him to defend it.

Look at the situation of Jones, who has one and doesn't defend it...

And what's more, it will deprive us of seeing a triple champion.

 

[jeff7b9]

Eh like most rules in the UFC. If you're big enough you can always get around it.

Or any place that deals with sales &/or money.


There was a story going around that some NFL guy fell asleep during team film study.
(Practice squad, special teams)
He got fired.

The next week Tom Brady fell asleep during film study.
They woke him up and asked him what kind of coffee he would like.

That's how the world works.

 

[austinblair]

Seems in the golden days the precedent was it kinda had to be for a super fight. I think Aldo going up to 155 was one of the earlier examples of it.

 

[method115]

Or any place that deals with sales &/or money.


There was a story going around that some NFL guy fell asleep during team film study. He got fired.

The next week Tom Brady fell asleep during film study.
They woke him up and asked him what kind of coffee he would like.

That's how the world works.

Very true. I worked at a restaurant once and all the Mexicans were allowed to take food home at the end of the night. Manager calls me in and ask me why I'm taking food and I told him because everyone else is. He basically just said "Yea but they've earned that right you haven't".

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Eh like most rules in the UFC. If you're big enough you can always get around it.

Just like title shot booking, just like their code of conduct for offensive material, just like their drug testing..

 

[mitch316]

That is until Conor comes back and says he wants it or even Paddy...
The rule only applies to commoners and not friends of the king.

In time, another idiotic decision by the UFC, because all they have to do is strip the champion of his belt if he doesn't defend it.

It doesn't matter how many belts the fighter may have, but objective criteria that force him to defend it.

Look at the situation of Jones, who has one and doesn't defend it...

And what's more, it will deprive us of seeing a triple champion.

Yep. Aldo the at the time GOAT FW would have had to vacate but along comes Mr zero title defences McTapper who gets a shot at the LW belt.

 

[Reileyb]

You know damn well the UFC will break this rule when it benefits them.

Another Mcgregor comes along and they will let him leave with the belt and hold up the division for almost 2 years.

 

[FreedomCricket]

Honestly this is a great rule.

And it should be a rule, until it needs to be broken. And it will be broken and should be broken for the right scenario/person.


But when most champs fight 2 times a year having someone hold up 2 divisions by only fighting 1 time in the year is not appealing.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Umm this has always been a rule except when they support your move up/down. Kinda like letting Jon Jones sit with the belt while forcing the intern champion to defend. Illa had to vacate because he has little leverage

 

[Clark Rogers]

I don't hate it. Concurrent double champ hasn't been all that great historically, one or both weight classes get held up, etc. This would solve that and still give the opportunity for multi- class champions.