One of the guys here posted this in a thread: "Try to train with the gi on and not to grab the opponents gi. It will perfect your movements becaqsue you arent as slippery, and yet youll still have to perfect your submissions without the use of clothing. Alot of good gi grapplers dont always secure a tight grip. Hands wear out extremely fast in competition. Their is a time and place when to grab material. If you train never to grab the material youll find that you arent dependent on it." What do you think about it?