Did ONE Cheat Ekaterina Vandaryeva Out of a Win?

and you are actually still defending heavyweight title fights being aired 2 weeks delayed. You must work for one or something…trying to defend your company.. keep going back to your horrible “tape delay doesn’t matter cause I don’t know the outcome answer.”
He’s actually giving a logical answer. You haven’t.


You are obtuse for asking why tape delayed sports is a problem at all. This isn’t about me. I am not the only customer they lost over this. Far from it.
The majority of people that viewed this past months events weren’t even aware the events were prerecorded. The vast majority of those that did know seemed to not care.

You may not be the only one they lost, but you’re certainly a minority.
So clearly you are not just dumb but you are quite clearly a complete fucking asshole and fuck you.I apologized ,answered you twice, and then you call me names. Is ONEFC your mamma or sumfin? What the hell triggered you to be such a prick dick head piece of shit douchebag asshole just cause somebody online thinks showing taped delayed MMA is bad busines management?
Sure. HE’S the one that’s triggered :rolleyes:
 
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You are obtuse for asking why tape delayed sports is a problem at all.
So explain why it is. rationally, Without overreacting.


The way ONE is distributing their product is setting mma back not forward… and you know this shit isn’t about the Covid and fights without crowds enabling fight results being kept secret.
Got any of that good good proof? Logic says COVID. Rational thinking says COVID. What do you offer, besides conjecture and speculation?


Of course the elephant in the room you’ve been ducking is why these multi week delays and some fights they are airing months later
Months? They’ve all aired within a calendar month. More conjecture.


Instead of the next day like a usual Asian promotion figuring Americans don’t watch tv at 3am.
Most Americans don’t watch tv at 3am. They’re trying to reach a broader audience on TNT, not the hardcore losers.
 
You are either obtuse or purposely misunderstanding my question. I don't care if you personally watch ONE or not, but it seems to bother you a great deal that it isn't live, yet you can't explain why.

If you don't know the outcome already it's as good as live. And comparing it to the Super Bowl is just silly since it would be impossible to keep that result a secret, and they obviously play the Super Bowl in front of fans who buy expensive tickets.

ONE probably saved a lot of money by filming three events on the same day instead of three different days, since they were doing it without fans in attendance.

I understand your frustration completely at some of the shows being tape delayed but there is only ONE reason for it and that is COVID protocol. I don't know where you live but in Singapore the COVID protocols are VERY STRICT and ONE is the only company allowed to do any sports / entertainment events in Singapore because we work alongside the Singapore government. Other countries like the USA are far more lax in their approach to Covid but it is not the case in Singapore. So while we would absolutely ideally love to have each and every event LIVE it is impossible because we only have a certain window to work in provided by the Singapore government and it is imperative that we produce as much as we can within that window. For example, ONE on TNT 1 and 4 were live. 2 and 3 were delayed. We had TWO windows to shoot shows in April, that fell one the days of TNT 1 and 4 so in those two windows we had to shoot many shows and had a lot of fights fall through at the last minute -- literally last minute -- due to the super strict Covid rules in Singapore.
Now, if you don't know the result, I don't see how that possibility affects your viewing enjoyment. I haven't even watched the last Wrestlemania that was weeks ago and am waiting until I am out of quarantine to watch with my son -- I don't know the results and still am excited to watch. So too all the football I watch, and shows like LFA that I catch up on Fight Pass days sometimes weeks after they air live.
It is the WAY OF THE WORLD right now, or at least this part of the world. You can get frustrated as much as you like but I am thankful that ONE is able to produce shows for fans entertainment during a time when so many people are struggling.
 
I understand your frustration completely at some of the shows being tape delayed but there is only ONE reason for it and that is COVID protocol. I don't know where you live but in Singapore the COVID protocols are VERY STRICT and ONE is the only company allowed to do any sports / entertainment events in Singapore because we work alongside the Singapore government. Other countries like the USA are far more lax in their approach to Covid but it is not the case in Singapore. So while we would absolutely ideally love to have each and every event LIVE it is impossible because we only have a certain window to work in provided by the Singapore government and it is imperative that we produce as much as we can within that window. For example, ONE on TNT 1 and 4 were live. 2 and 3 were delayed. We had TWO windows to shoot shows in April, that fell one the days of TNT 1 and 4 so in those two windows we had to shoot many shows and had a lot of fights fall through at the last minute -- literally last minute -- due to the super strict Covid rules in Singapore.
Now, if you don't know the result, I don't see how that possibility affects your viewing enjoyment. I haven't even watched the last Wrestlemania that was weeks ago and am waiting until I am out of quarantine to watch with my son -- I don't know the results and still am excited to watch. So too all the football I watch, and shows like LFA that I catch up on Fight Pass days sometimes weeks after they air live.
It is the WAY OF THE WORLD right now, or at least this part of the world. You can get frustrated as much as you like but I am thankful that ONE is able to produce shows for fans entertainment during a time when so many people are struggling.
Thank you for clarifying, VOICE
 
No worries, BTW are you really a wet shaver? If so, met too, only way to go, using my trust 37c slant and some arko right now with a semogue boar hair brush.
Oh yeah, nice tools you have. Wthere’s an extensive thread on wet shaving in the Mayberry sub forums. My boar brushes are all Omega, although I’ve always heard great things about Semogue. Haven’t used my slant in quite a while. Just using my Mercury HD lately. Recently started using the DE on my head in the shower, as well. Bumpy start, but I like the results
 
I answered yur question just fine. the obtuse 1 is clearly you because my first response was enough to get the message across that your question is rhetorical, irrelevant, n already answered in read between the lines obviousness… unless of course you are retarded.

Then the second message I said straight up said “it doesn’t affect me” which is about as a direct of an answer you can give to your question and then you still go on to say I didn’t answer you. I even said sorry I wasn’t clear and then answered you a second time about as clearly as possible and then you call me obtuse after I apologized for not being clear enough for you first time, then answered you again the second time. So clearly you are not just dumb but you are quite clearly a complete fucking asshole and fuck you.I apologized ,answered you twice, and then you call me names. Is ONEFC your mamma or sumfin? What the hell triggered you to be such a prick dick head piece of shit douchebag asshole just cause somebody online thinks showing taped delayed MMA is bad busines management?

… and you are actually still defending heavyweight title fights being aired 2 weeks delayed. You must work for one or something…trying to defend your company.. keep going back to your horrible “tape delay doesn’t matter cause I don’t know the outcome answer.”

You are obtuse for asking why tape delayed sports is a problem at all. This isn’t about me. I am not the only customer they lost over this. Far from it. The way ONE is distributing their product is setting mma back not forward… and you know this shit isn’t about the Covid and fights without crowds enabling fight results being kept secret. You know damn well ONE is not going to have parallel live TNT events as their standard going forward. It’s the same old lazy coping out over the continental time zone differences like rizin did. Of course the elephant in the room you’ve been ducking is why these multi week delays and some fights they are airing months later… Instead of the next day like a usual Asian promotion figuring Americans don’t watch tv at 3am.

wow, someone's mad at the internet. I think a little time away from Sherdog would probably do you some good. I'd say kick back and watch some classic fights but you probably wouldn't bother since you already know the results.
 
Chael p Sonnen was the one who did the rant that 2 things in this world need to be live… sports and news… I just ripped him off. If I’m wrong then he was wrong. In my personal opinion it loses its luster. It’s not all about the results. To be quite honest I don’t care as much about the results as much as I care about the atmosphere… which is greatly diminished if it’s not live.

I come from a world of getting plooked by the west coast tape delay screw job for decades… where everybody else in the USA gets it live except us… all these years of everybody in the USA getting the ufc live on spike except us getting plooked by 3 hours. This is a very specific type of plook job that only we get and believe me when I say there is a boiling point you reach that you wouldn’t understand unless you went through it.

Some areas don’t allow satellite dishes in the area so you have no choice but to use cable n get plooked by 3 hours. I die a little inside every time I see a delayed ball drop from Times Square on New Years with the lie “live” written right there on my screen. I would have rather watched it at 9 then passed out.

I suffered through getting plooked by spike tv with ufc tape delays for years and years even within America, while most other Americans were enjoying live ufc fights on spike.. we were getting fucked over by 3 hours. Tape delayed sports have become something personal to me over the years.

After years of putting up with what we did… you get a sick disgusted feeling in your gut anytime you hear about any sort of non live sports broadcast.

I understand with or without Covid sports with such time differences between countries can’t always be live. If one is doing live events in the USA when they can and taped fights between that would make it a good product overall but There has got to be something I am missing. Why do they need to be delayed as long as they are tho? The UFC put on live fights all through covid. I do believe I read they will air fights filmed in late February on may 15. Sorry if I am incorrect in that but I know they are showing at least a couple fights delayed as much as 2 weeks. Covid doesn’t really explain a 2 week delay on a heavyweight title fight to me.

The possible reasons I can think of is we know mma events rack the hours up and tnt obviously isn’t going to hand over a 6 hour time slot right off the bat on something risky such as mma. However that ONEFC time slot I saw was not even a full 2 hours. TNT gave them 90 minutes? That’s all they get? Aren’t these the people who insisted that nitro should be given a 3rd hour?

if you wanna say not completely ideal time slot situations isn’t ONEFC’s fault… well ONE still signed the deal did they not? …a deal with less minutes per week than 1 average mma event lasts by far. One knew darn well 90ish minutes to 2 hours wasnt long enough for a real live sports event, especially this sport. They trapped themself into a situation where they have no choice but to not be completely live even if they wanted to. One still agreed to the deal. They are the ones who trapped themselves into a TV deal that walls them into having to pick and choose which stars are worth lining up a live tv spot and who gets put on a delayed card. They could have had online streaming or gone just about absolutely anywhere. They are the ones who knew the minutes per week they agreed to is far less time than what’s expected of a mma event but agreed to the deal anyway. Ultimately the blame is with ONE.

the good news is if this really isn’t going to be the standard assuming we get over the covid hump and ONE’s hands are tied then we can expect these massively delayed fights to be phased out eventually… tho there still the issue of one knowing before hand that mma events last way longer than 90 minutes to 2 hours but they signed the deal anyway, thus forcing them into this weird experimental random release format that feels like 90s tape delayed wrestling and the ultimate fighter had offspring. That can not be blamed on covid. ONE elected the west coast tape delay screw job. You can’t blame that on covid either. That was a choice.

It’s ONE’s own fault that they now have no choice but to either not show most of the fights and then show the ones they could not fit on time live at a later delayed date. ONE just went and created a new low class of fighter. You had main eventer.. co main eventer, undercard main eventer etc all the way down to first person to walk out for the first early prelim… which was the previous lowest tier but now all thanks to ONEFC a new low just above non televised fighter has been created which is the “double digit number of days tape delayed fighter.” Ouch…

Of course there’s still the same old west coast tape delay issue.. where once again…. Most of the USA got 2 live one events on TNT but we got plooked by 3 hours… somethings never change … and the watch TNT app that is supposed to enable people in the west to stream it live without the 3 hour delay … is of course a buggy broken laggy nonfunctional broken mess that lagged me out constantly till I just gave up on it. Get a reliable app if you are going to bank on every western cable user who wants to watch one live depend on it. The ESPN app is unreliable but the watch tnt app is unusable… so even when one claims the USA is getting a live event on tnt… some of us are still getting plooked by 3 hours. Even if the app worked perfectly you still can’t use your DVR with it like the cable box. The west still gets the shaft as usual.

You will never understand our frustrations unless you have been getting west coast tape delay screw jobs for decade after decade and just when you thought it has finally been eradicated from your favorite sport for good… a company dedicated to come along and set the all time world record for longest delayed broadcast time in the history of a major international distribution deal tier mma league heavyweight title fight.

one knew darn well TNTs offer wasn’t enough minutes per week to allow for a normally expected live broadcasted sporting event for this particular sport but said yes anyway and that’s why we are in this mess. They’d have the same problem if they were based in the USA and they’d have the same problem if covid never happened. You can’t blame this on any broadcast times zones or covid.

Most Americans don’t watch tv at 3am. They’re trying to reach a broader audience on TNT, not the hardcore losers.

The casual broad audience aren’t watching week(s) delayed mma fights of fighters they haven’t heard of starting at 10pm for many of Americans… on a weeknight. “Hardcore losers” you speak of are the ones who would stay up till midnight on a weeknight to watch ONEfc or any mma at all that’s not ufc. The TNT app to see it live in the west is a broken unusable laggy piece of garb… so I get fucked by another 3 hours ontop of it all. 10pm on a weeknight is far from a casual viewer time slot.

The time slot ONE ultimately signed on the dotted line for isn’t much better than a 3am show. People where I live will be in bed either way.

The Casual broad audience you speak of only watch
ufc ufc and also ufc…. Aired on a weekend night… Not a work night starting as late as 10pm for many of the American target audience they went out of their way to makes fights non live in the first place.

Are these fights delayed in asia too to keep the secret… cause there is virtually no chance they didn’t just piss off people over there too. They all must be saying “You mean we have to wait now because of fuckin American? To hell with that!”
 
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I understand your frustration completely at some of the shows being tape delayed but there is only ONE reason for it and that is COVID protocol. I don't know where you live but in Singapore the COVID protocols are VERY STRICT and ONE is the only company allowed to do any sports / entertainment events in Singapore because we work alongside the Singapore government. Other countries like the USA are far more lax in their approach to Covid but it is not the case in Singapore. So while we would absolutely ideally love to have each and every event LIVE it is impossible because we only have a certain window to work in provided by the Singapore government and it is imperative that we produce as much as we can within that window. For example, ONE on TNT 1 and 4 were live. 2 and 3 were delayed. We had TWO windows to shoot shows in April, that fell one the days of TNT 1 and 4 so in those two windows we had to shoot many shows and had a lot of fights fall through at the last minute -- literally last minute -- due to the super strict Covid rules in Singapore.
Now, if you don't know the result, I don't see how that possibility affects your viewing enjoyment. I haven't even watched the last Wrestlemania that was weeks ago and am waiting until I am out of quarantine to watch with my son -- I don't know the results and still am excited to watch. So too all the football I watch, and shows like LFA that I catch up on Fight Pass days sometimes weeks after they air live.
It is the WAY OF THE WORLD right now, or at least this part of the world. You can get frustrated as much as you like but I am thankful that ONE is able to produce shows for fans entertainment during a time when so many people are struggling.
I understand these are challenging circumstances and I certainly appreciate the extra insight into what you've been doing. Keep up the good work, I've been enjoying the shows.
 
I'm butthurt and irrational
Fixed that for you. A lopt of word salad tp express being upset over you getting screwed over by Spike TV over a decade ago. None of which has anything to do with ONE doing what it takes to get put on a big cable network in a new market for them.

"atomosphere." You're watching at your in your grimy draws. There's no atmosphere. Same goes for UFC events right now, without an audience. Unless yu're live in person watching the events, "atmosphere" is up to you. Live conversation on Reddit, this forum, Twitter, all went down during the events, and a ton of people had a bunch of fun. Your butthurt is on you.
 
Fixed that for you. A lopt of word salad tp express being upset over you getting screwed over by Spike TV over a decade ago. None of which has anything to do with ONE doing what it takes to get put on a big cable network in a new market for them.

"atomosphere." You're watching at your in your grimy draws. There's no atmosphere. Same goes for UFC events right now, without an audience. Unless yu're live in person watching the events, "atmosphere" is up to you. Live conversation on Reddit, this forum, Twitter, all went down during the events, and a ton of people had a bunch of fun. Your butthurt is on you.

Hey look I was just passing on advice giving by Chael Sonnen … yuh know… the man dana white said if he could choose anybody to take control over the ufc if he had to leave as president he would elect Chael Sonnen… so if I’m wrong then one of the.. if not the only truly long term successful mma promotors ever is wrong about this subject. I guess you know more about the fight promotion business than the ufc president who saved mma. Coker knew to get bellator the hell out out the spike deal too.

what you are doing here essentially is just shooting the messenger when you bash people with very valid criticisms… who are only doing it to try and help ONE and other orgs like it. That doesn’t help anybody.. especially one..saying that obvious bad decisions are no problem are all surely doesn’t help one either.

If u wanna go ahead and yes man every bad business move ONEFC makes and they can do no wrong n delayed fights doesn’t diminish the excitement at all and bash anybody who has valid concerns, then I dunno what to tell you. Do you want me to say none of the concerns I mentioned are any problems at all n it’s no big deal n everything is a okay.. who are you trying to really convince here.. me or yourself?

obviously you skipped the part about how tnt is giving me the same tape delay screwjob with ONEFC TODAY in 2021. Convenient for you to leave that part out and then say spike doing the same thing is unrelated to this. Also you know the watch tnt app to work around is nonfunctional unreliable trash. So one is giving me delayed fights but then another delay only my region gets another delay ontop of the delay.. ONEFC and TNT are giving us a double whammy screwjob. No big deal tho right just use the watch tnt app n see it a little bit less not live… before the app borks u out 5 seconds later.

It’s funny all those years when UFC had tape delay they would admit tape delay is very non ideal and they don’t want it …but they’d always pass the buck and say our hands are tied cause of spike.. looks like ONEFC is gonna do the same n pass the buck.

UFC & bellator were smart tho n learned from their screw up n avoided delay stank networks like spike,tnt, etc like the plague from then on… and then ONE instead just ignores all the free history lessons given before them and jumps in head first into one of those same shtank delay bad deals with Ted turner.

so we know they cheat people out of wins as your own thread suggests. Is it really much of a stretch more for you to believe they cheated the USA west fan as well? Why are you taking their side?
 
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I was delighted to have cards in the middle of the week, watching most mma live is for suckers...without fast forward, it’s not worth the time investment.
I don’t have the time to watch 25 minutes of lay n pray.
 
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