Did Joe Riggs have the same effect as Sage/Conor coming up?

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This is a question for old school fans. I have always heard how talented Riggs was/is in training and if he fought the way he sparred, he would have been a UFC champion and a dominant one at that.


Curious to know, if Riggs had the same effect on sherdog forums around 2002/04 when he was a rising star?


Also, how did the forums react when he beat Chris Lytle by vicious ground and pound or getting a TKO win over Joe Doerksen in his UFC debut. (Doerksen was a beast back in the day)
 
Riggs had the skills to pay the bills but missed weight for the biggest fight of his career and then went on to get subbed in the first round. Not a good 24hrs for mr Riggs.
 
nah the thing i remember Joe Riggs most for was that he dropped down from 240 odd lbs to 170lbs before he debut in the UFC.
 
No but Joe Rogan thought he was the next coming of Jesus.
 
filthynumber1 said:
Riggs had the skills to pay the bills but missed weight for the biggest fight of his career and then went on to get subbed in the first round. Not a good 24hrs for mr Riggs.
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About that, there was a confusion, he ended up making weight it seems but the scale was off and when they told him to return the scale he already rehydrated out of frustration and anger.

Although it was controversial since the first time the scale was off, it could have meant that he didn't make the weight but it was too late for the second try since he already dehydrated.

That's why Dana never gave him too much shit about the incident.
 
filthynumber1 said:
True story?
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I am not sure how legit it was since it was a super old article in MMAWeekly many years ago. But the guy who wrote it said that, when Riggs went to the scale, he was over but then someone realized that the scale was off.

But it was too late since Riggs chose to rehydrate before they asked him to step back on the scale.


Funny thing is, Dana never gave him any shit for it since he hates fighters not making weight.
 
Sosuke Aizen said:
I am not sure how legit it was since it was a super old article in MMAWeekly many years ago. But the guy who wrote it said that, when Riggs went to the scale, he was over but then someone realized that the scale was off.

But it was too late since Riggs chose to rehydrate before they asked him to step back on the scale.


Funny thing is, Dana never gave him any shit for it since he hates fighters not making weight.
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I remember watching it live and specifically remember them saying it was NOT a title fight bc he didn't make weight
 
I don't remember Riggs specifically; he might've been a bit before my time, but I remember the era. There were, just like there have always been, young up-and-comers who were touted as sure future champs.

The difference between that era and today is that we understand what makes a great MMAist better now. Back then, a guy who was a good standup fighter who had some semblance of a guard game was considered a possible future champ.

You have to realize that back then, most guys were very one dimensional and our idea of a well-rounded fighter was Muay Thai + BJJ, and we figured a young guy who could do both (like Riggs) was a step ahead of the game. And for the most part, that was true then. Wrestlers mostly sucked at striking and wanted it on the mat, but often weren't comfortable against a decent guard player. So we figured the Muay Thai guy would have better striking because, hey, MT > everything else (yes, we really thought that) and if the wrestler took him down, he'd be shut down or subbed.

So we got guys like Brandon Vera and Riggs who I guess you could say were our Conor/Sage type prospects. But our eyes for great fighters are better than back then. There are loads of well rounded guys now. To stand out, you have to be more obviously special, and more memorably dominant than before. It's not enough now to look like a complete fighter on paper. You have to actually go out and win, and look like you'd be a tough fight for anyone, even the guys at the top.
 
No. Millenials weren't aware of the sport yet. So there were a lot less fucking mush brain "fans"
 
riggs was a young guy in the old days and had a lot of fights in that crap promotion in phoenix. he had huge power but somehow never really did anything remarkable.
 
If I recall correctly Riggs landed a elbow that cut Lytle forcing a Referee stoppage ....I good sneaky shot , but Ts makes it seem like he pounded him out
 
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