Did GSP Have KO Power?

He didn't sit down on his punches but he had a very nice step jab. It worked for him because he had reach advantage against most of his opponents.
 
He looked pretty powerful against Bisping but he actually sat down on his punches. Most of his career he was light on his feet and used jabs. Much like Bisping and Cruz as well when you most a lot you can't sit down on anything so tend to not have a lot of power behind anything. If you watch Usman usually is plodding forward and sits down on everything.
 
He mixed up his attacks frequently so he wasn't always doing one thing. I'm sure he can KO somebody he just prefers to be a mma fighter with multiple ways to win
 
Diamond Dallas Poirier said:
Physically yes I believe so. But he wasn't the type of fighter to try and land knockout shots. Spent more time jabbing and in top control.
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Well physically has even a girl the power to knock someone out. There aren't really any pillow fisted fighters, they just dont use the style to KO someone.
 
bogeyj said:
could he have replicated something like this on Mas (or any durable fighter he faced like BJ Penn)?

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I don't remember GSP ever KO'ing anyone, but he had a few TKO's.

was GSP pillow-fisted or did he have underrated power?
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Gsp didnt know how to punch. He learned The jab to secure rounds. Canadian goat for sure
 
chinarice said:
Ah well at least he didn't beg for mercy in a fucking choke vs some anorexic twiggy alien bum
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First of all, we were discussing striking here, not grappling.

Secondly, it was literally Usman’s 2nd MMA fight and it’s completely irrelevant to the rest of his career.

Thirdly, this reply wasn’t addressed to you.

And lastly- you’re an idiot
 
AtaTheCrow said:
Well physically has even a girl the power to knock someone out. There aren't really any pillow fisted fighters, they just dont use the style to KO someone.
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True, every UFC fighter is physically capable of knocking others out. But some definitely have more physical capabilty than others. What I'm saying about GSP is that I think he's physically very powerful, but it isn't his style to go for knockouts.
 
GOATtalks said:
First of all, we were discussing striking here, not grappling.

Secondly, it was literally Usman’s 2nd MMA fight and it’s completely irrelevant to the rest of his career.

Thirdly, this reply wasn’t addressed to you.

And lastly- you’re an idiot
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Hahahaha did you just make excuses for him losing to a lesser fighter than Serra?

You're a fucking pylon.. why casuals think so highly of themselves is funny to me you and pankrat have the combined iq of a Juneau

This was a thread about GSP's power.. nothing to do with his opponents, or losses or wins for that matter. You're just a shit tier poster with no ability to even make a good post.
 
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He doesn't that one shot KO power obviously, but sustained blows to the head and body he can do some considerable damage.
 
He had power, but he just didn't use it as much. Didn't Chael say GSP was one of the strongest people he's ever grappled with as well?

I'd say he just didn't sit on his punches as that wasn't his style, however had he I think he def couldn't had some power behind him
 
LOL at TS needing to squeeze in his 'pillow fisted' insult of the guy widely considered the GOAT of MMA.

MMA is about MIXED martial arts. A blend. So you don't have to have Paul Daley like power at WW and yet you can still be a better fighter than Paul Daley and you don't have to Maia type subs at WW but you can still be a better WW than Maia was.

No TS, GSP's game that made him GOAT was all about transitions. Transitions were his bread and butter which means he was always ready to spring from punching to TD's which means he was not sitting down heavy on his feet to plant for most punches.
 
GOATtalks said:
Yet he’s never been finished by strikes, while GSP begged for mercy against a 5’6 LW
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I would love to see how many shots you cold take from Serra. From the time he rocked GSP to the time Jon McCarthy called a TKO Georges took over 40 hard strikes. Most fighters and yes even most Sherdoggers would be out cold. GSP has the best chin in MMA history.
 
GOATtalks said:
No, he didn’t have much power and he never really committed to his punches. His strikes were there to score points, not to KO someone.

Usman is way more dangerous striker than GSP
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GSP was surprisingly unathletic for striking. Zahabi told Rogan that he send GSP to gymnastics because he was too stiff.

An amazing technician tho but Usman is more athletic (despite being stiff too).
 
Nobru said:
Gsp didnt know how to punch. He learned The jab to secure rounds. Canadian goat for sure
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Didn't know how to punch? LMAO

The first TMA he learned was Kyokushin Karate*, and then he learned grappling, in the case of jiujitsu only by going all the way to the Gracie's gym in New York to train.

Give this a watch.


Now listen up.

To develop the power to knock someone out--leaving aside the proverbial "one you didn't see coming"--you have to plant your feet and commit. That leaves you wide open to counter-attack and hampered in the ability to defend. GSP was not all that different from the Diaz bros in that he preferred instead to repeatedly and aggressively damage his opponents while not expending much energy compared to head hunting--hence the appearance of incredible cardio though it had a lot to do with great technique--and while remaining more able to defend and so he took relatively little damage.

So, whether or not GSP had knockout power per se, it was never really his style from the beginning; rather he went for voluminous, heavy blows, which, as often as not, set up submissions when they didn't result in TKO's. In his first 7 fights, he won 3 by TKO due to strikes, 2 by submission, 1 was stopped due to a cut, and he had one decision. From the very start he brought such a wide array of tools to the game he never needed to rely on a risky fully committed strike that could leave him wide open to getting knocked out himself--until he lost his head prior to the first Serra fight, that is.

HTH

*Kyokushin, an extremely hard style, involves breaking more often than the other styles and full contact, knockdown sparring as a main part of its training.

More interesting background.

Here's some actual proof of what I am telling you:

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/georges-st-pierre
"St-Pierre was introduced to karate by his father at the age of seven.[snip]

At the age of 12, St-Pierre received his 2nd dan (degree) Kyokushin karate black belt. He continued to train in karate until his teacher, Jean Couture, died of lung cancer when Georges was 16 years old. Around that time, St-Pierre saw a video of Brazilian Royce Gracie fighting in UFC 1 in 1993 and got hooked on the sport. After that, he began training in wrestling, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, boxing and muay Thai, in addition to karate.
[snip]
St-Pierre made his professional debut in UCC 7 on 25 January 2002, fighting Ivan Menjivar of El Savador at the Verdun Auditorium in Montreal, Quebec. He won with a knockout late in the first round."
 
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