Did Frankie break Conner?

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There can be no doubt or reasonable debate that conner's promotional responsibilities were arduous (means strenuous effort was required, or tiring), but he had done it before.

i think the issue he was really grappling was knowing that if (when) he lost to nate again, he would have to endure the incredibly difficult cut to 145 pounds to face the most difficult stylistic match up for him in the entire ufc--frankie teh answer edgar.

if i was in conner shoes, i cant really say that i would have done things differently--lie to millions of fans, force myself to feign confidence and act as though that i could beat nate, and even if i manage to squeak out a win, doubtful though it may be, i would then have to cut the weight to face the nightmare match up that is frankie edgar.

conner couldnt bully frankie--conner would be 20 to 30 pounds heavier, but frankie doesnt really get bullied.

conner couldnt get in between frankie's ears--mind games dont work on frankie.

conner's "power" wouldnt have teh impact he would expect or hope, and that would rattle him. he couldnt faze diaz, who was the same size as conner, and besides, size doesnt matter. nevertheless, frankie doesnt get hurt, koed, or finished.

edgar is the far superior striker, and has better footwork and faster hands.

conner knew he was on borrowed time, and was faced with two decisions--take his opportunity to quit now and blame it on promotional obligations that he previously agreed to, or stick around and have little choice but to face edgar, and watch his stock and popularity plummet after three straight losses.

and for the conner haters out there, do not use my thread to hate--this is a respectful debate, so keep it clean guys.

and before anyone starts taking smack about conner, try putting yourself in his shoes.
 
I don't appreciate everything that Conor says or does, but I really don't think he's ever ducked anyone. He backs up the shit he says. I believe he's going through a tough time after a reality check and felt like he needed to train and had no time for media obligation. After so much pressure and cameras everywhere, he kind of had enough of it.

I'm not saying he's right or wrong, I'm just saying that I don't think his problem was Frankie or Nate directly.

P.S. You do know his name's "Conor", right?
 
If you were in Conor's shoes,

your feet would look stupid like his.
 
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I'm no Conor fan but I have no doubt that he believes he would beat Edgar.

One thing Conor is not lacking is confidence.
 
I think the recent Conor struggle was to avoid Nate, but I don't think it has a thing to do with Frankie.

Pretty sure he's fighting Aldo anyway..
 
Nate broke him. But he's ducking both of them imo.
 
I'm no Conor fan but I have no doubt that he believes he would beat Edgar.

One thing Conor is not lacking is confidence.
The fuck he isn't he's hiding behind Twitter and Facebook lol
 
There can be no doubt or reasonable debate that conner's promotional responsibilities were arduous (means strenuous effort was required, or tiring), but he had done it before.

i think the issue he was really grappling was knowing that if (when) he lost to nate again, he would have to endure the incredibly difficult cut to 145 pounds to face the most difficult stylistic match up for him in the entire ufc--frankie teh answer edgar.

if i was in conner shoes, i cant really say that i would have done things differently--lie to millions of fans, force myself to feign confidence and act as though that i could beat nate, and even if i manage to squeak out a win, doubtful though it may be, i would then have to cut the weight to face the nightmare match up that is frankie edgar.

conner couldnt bully frankie--conner would be 20 to 30 pounds heavier, but frankie doesnt really get bullied.

conner couldnt get in between frankie's ears--mind games dont work on frankie.

conner's "power" wouldnt have teh impact he would expect or hope, and that would rattle him. he couldnt faze diaz, who was the same size as conner, and besides, size doesnt matter. nevertheless, frankie doesnt get hurt, koed, or finished.

edgar is the far superior striker, and has better footwork and faster hands.

conner knew he was on borrowed time, and was faced with two decisions--take his opportunity to quit now and blame it on promotional obligations that he previously agreed to, or stick around and have little choice but to face edgar, and watch his stock and popularity plummet after three straight losses.

and for the conner haters out there, do not use my thread to hate--this is a respectful debate, so keep it clean guys.

and before anyone starts taking smack about conner, try putting yourself in his shoes.
Ain't nobody got time to read all that.
 
Backhand yourself if you dignified TS post with a response. I am not included because someone has to point out the stupidity of others.
 
I'm no Conor fan but I have no doubt that he believes he would beat Edgar.

One thing Conor is not lacking is confidence.
he might believe it, but that doesnt mean he doesnt know it.

and after getting shellacked by nate without a camp and rocked by a volume striker diaz, his confidence has taken a hit.

i found a webpage that sums up where he is at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus
 
No way Conor thinks Frankie would beat him. He still somehow thinks he can beat Nate after the beating he took. If he were afraid after the loss he would have tried to fight again against Aldo.

IMO no ducking or opponent issue is involved here. It comes down to a mix between money and promotional stuff.
 
I use to think he could bounce back from a few losses but now appears that if it happens, he will turn into a ghost...vanish.

The Nate rematch forced the Frankie/Aldo fight and Aldo could eliminate Frankie, which would give Conor a better chance at defending the belt but Aldo will comeback stronger and Conor could be screwed no matter what.

Right now Conor looks like a gazelle that is running from a bunch hungry lions that want to rip him limb from limb....Good luck with that Conor..lol
 
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McGregor said he can beat Lawler, I am pretty sure he thinks he can beat Edgar. The guy has crazy confidence in himself.
 
Conor is demanding a rematch with nate and time to train with the team he flew to iceland

Idea nate "broke" him is fantasy
 
Conor's a coward, just like his fans. He's a mental midget, just like his fans.
 
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