Demopoulos vs Murata was fairly easy fight to score

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I had rounds 1 and 2 for Vanessa.

I think round 1 we can all agree Vanessa won.

Round 2: she did way more damage from bottom with elbows and hammerfists. You can't just sit inside the guard do nothing and expect to win the fight. Times have moved on. Number one scoring criteria is DAMAGE and Vanessa did way more damage in R2. Very nice sharp elbows to the head.

29-28 Vanessa. People crying about robbery go read the rules.
 
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I had rounds 1 and 2 for Vanessa.

I think round 1 we can all agree Vanessa won.

Round 2: she did way more damage on bottom with elbows and hammerfists. You can't just sit inside the guard do nothing and expect to win the fight. Times have moved on. Number one scoring criteria is DAMAGE and Vanessa did way more damage in R2. Very nice sharp elbows to the head.

29-28 Vanessa. People crying about robbery go read the rules.

I thought murata won round one. Sure, vanessa landed more strikes, but like half of them were little rabbit punches from bottom or light shots in the clinch. Murata actually looked to land the harder strikes on the feet with kicks, and popped vanessa's head back with some punches, and had the two takedowns and almost 2 minutes of control time. I'm all for making it easier for people to win grappling exchanges from their back, but vanessa only had a handful of ground strikes and I don't think that outweighs two takedowns and almost 2 minutes of control time, especially when I think murata landed the harder strikes on the feet that round.

That said, Murata slipped on her ass at one point in that round and I thought judges might see that as an effect from one of vanessa's strikes (it wasn't) and give her the round.

Round 2, vanessa does have a case for winning that round from the bottom, but all the damage done to murata was mostly caused by a headbutt. They were close in strikes that round, with vanessa probably edging murata, but it was close enough in strikes where I thought the 4 plus minutes of top control by murata would swing it her way.

If you do score strictly by the criteria, then i can see your argument for Vanessa, the problem is that judges rarely do. I've never seen judges give the person on bottom the rounds as easily as they did to vanessa last night.

Also, round 3 was borderline 10-8 if we are strictly following the criteria now.
 
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yeah thats true but fights aren't judged based on live betting line.
No, but live betting lines are judged by who the bettors think have less of a chance of winning based on the action that has happened.

So, as opposed to pre fight odds, which are pure hype, this is a bunch of people going "Fuck, better get money on Murata, cuz she's definitely winning"
 
Top control without damage isn’t worth anything. Clear win for Demo.
 
How were they scoring the double-fists of fury?

Murata over the stripper, especially after over-celebrating.
 
If they're gonna score fights like that now grappling is over

person on bottom can just spam love taps and the judges will score it as 'more damage' over a couple of actually impactful blows from the person on top
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I had a free 6 dollar bet on Aoriqileng and got it at +100. Took that 12 and bet it on Murata. Got Murata at +100 after round 1 and thought I had made an easy 24$ but then the judges screwed me.

Definitely thought Murata clearly had 2 rounds. Commentary team was confused as well.

I lost every WMMA fight I bet on last night except for Karolina.
 
If they're gonna score fights like that now grappling is over

person on bottom can just spam love taps and the judges will score it as 'more damage' over a couple of actually impactful blows from the person on top
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Those were pretty nasty series of elbows by Demo plus hammerfists. Ok but so you think person on top can just sit do nothing and win the round?
 
Vanessa Demopoulos def. Kanako Murata :: UFC on ESPN+ 87 :: MMA Decisions

Couch test is real, at least for this fight lol. In neither world, none, Demopoulos won that fight.

I ask myself when FBI is going to start doing something with those corrupt USA MMA organizations, cartels and schemes lol. Every single event there is a fucking robbery (AT LEAST ONE) and no one do anything. And if it was a mistake, at least make people accountable for those, harsh penalties. This must stop, this is annoying and destroy the sport.
 
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It’s how Tony (rightly) won against Danny Castillo. You can’t be a 2005 era lay and pray specialist these days, even in WMMA.
 
Murata doesn't look like a fighter, and isn't aggressive. Demo looks like an aggressive fighter, despite pretty much all of her offense being insignificant. I genuinely think that's a factor.
 
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