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Democrats have seized the United States Senate. (Live Now)

JDragon

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This whole filibustering crap is undemocratic bullshit. Whether it is government shutdowns, non-votes on the NY MMA ban or anything else, denying a vote on an issue is NOT democratic by any means.

Limit speech time, limit number of amendments if necessary, quit this bullshit.
 
And rob us of stories like Cruz reading GReen Eggs and Ham on the Senate floor to block a bill?

GTFO

If it wasn't for all the crazy procedural rules House of Cards wouldn't be nearly entertaining enough.
 
Lolol, you've been catching up on Congressional procedures last night after reading the SCOTUS nomination thread huh JDragon? :D

After that fine performance by Senator Cruz with Dr. Seuss' "Green Eggs and Ham", I'm waiting for somebody with a compelling voice and dramatic body language to continue that tradition and read us a George R.R. Martin book on the Senate floor.



Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) took the Senate floor at 2:41 pm with a promise to speak out against Obamacare “until I am no longer able to stand.” At 8:04 pm, Cruz held up a copy of Dr. Seuss’ Green Eggs and Ham and announced to a nearly empty Senate chamber that it was his daughters’ bedtime and he would like to take the opportunity to read them a children’s classic via C-SPAN2. So began Cruz’s performance of “Green Eggs and Ham,” live from the nation’s capitol.

In the annals of Congressional wackiness, Cruz’s speech was mostly par for the course. In 1992, Sen. Alfonse D’Amato broke into song and recited names from the phonebook in his classic filibuster of a defense spending bill. And Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid gave surely the most meta speech in Congressional history when he gave an eight hour filibuster on the right to filibuster.

A YouTube video shows Cruz, five hours in, reading Dr. Seuss with energy to burn. He drops his voice to a theatrical whisper at 1:13 and 1:30 and pitches it to the higher registers of enthusiasm at 1:36 and 2:41, and don’t miss the dramatic turn at 4:34, when Cruz, fully in character, realizes he does like green eggs and ham.

 
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In an unsuccessful attempt to derail passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1957, Thurmond made the longest filibuster ever conducted by a single senator, speaking for a total of 24 hours and 18 minutes. Cots were brought in from a nearby hotel for the legislators to sleep on while Thurmond discussed increasingly irrelevant and obscure topics, including his grandmother's biscuit recipe.
 
Yeah you'd really think of the topic of the speech isn't germane to the bill it would not be acceptable.
 
Lolol, you've been catching up on Congressional procedures last night after reading the SCOTUS nomination thread huh JDragon? :D

No, I had acually been toying with creating this thread for quite some time, but it obviously was my motivation to create it now.

The filibuster is insanity.
 
it's not insanity, it's a delay tactic or a blocking tactic.
 
There is nothing wrong with a filibuster as long as it's by the rules.

It's an interesting tactic but only a talking filibuster should be allowed.
 
It would be great if they tried to get rid of the filibuster and somebody filibustered the vote
 
On one hand I don't like it, but I think stopping a legislature from speaking based on what he has to say is a slippery slope for obvious reasons
 
No, it's undemocratic to put arbitrary limits on how long a democratically elected official can speak on behalf of their constituents. Fascist.
 
5 Most Famous Filibusters

1. Strom Thurmond, 1957
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At 24 hours and 18 minutes, Democratic Senator Strom Thurmond still holds the record for the longest uninterrupted filibuster, and for good reason: he came prepared. See, the filibusterer can’t leave the floor for any reason, not even a bathroom break. So to thwart his bladder, Thurmond took advance steam baths to sweat out all excess fluids, and then made an intern stand by with a bucket during the filibuster, just in case.

So what was the offending bill that Strom felt so strongly about? The Civil Rights Act of 1957. It passed anyway.[/quote]


2. Huey Long, 1935
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Democratic Senator Huey Long of Louisiana was the master of the filibuster, reading everything from Shakespeare to recipes just to hear the sound of his own voice. His most famous oratory came in 1935, a ploy to require Senate confirmation for the National Recovery Administration’s senior employees. For 15.5 hours, Long analyzed every section of the Constitution, then noticed that a good chunk of the room was either asleep or totally zoned out. Long then suggested to Vice President John Nance Garner that everyone should be forced to pay attention, but Garner was unmoved, replying, “That would be unusual cruelty under the Bill of Rights.” The same night, Long started reading recipes for fried oysters and potlikkers. Finally, around 4 a.m., he could no longer ignore the call of nature and ended the filibuster.


3. Alfonse D'Amato, 1992
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Republican Senator Alfonse D’Amato of New York is no stranger to a lengthy filibuster—he falls just shy of Strom Thurmond when it comes to long-windedness, once talking for 23 hours and 30 minutes to delay debate on a 1986 military spending bill. He started reading the phone book during that one. But it’s D’Amato’s 15-hour filibuster in 1992 that kept his fellow lawmakers entertained: He broke into “South of the Border (Down Mexico Way)” as part of his talkathon to stop 800-plus jobs from being moved from New York to Mexico.


4. Bob La Follette, 1917
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Wisconsin Senator Robert “Fighting Bob” La Follette nearly incited a riot with his filibuster in 1917. With just 26 hours left of the 64th Congress, La Follette decided to filibuster to stop legislation that would arm merchant ships against the Germans. When the presiding officer opted to recognize only those who had opposed the filibuster, LaFollette lost his temper and came close to throwing a brass spittoon. As some senators circled around Fighting Bob to calm him down, Senator Harry Lane noticed that Senator Ollie James of Kentucky was packing a pistol. He decided that if James tried to draw it, he would use his own smuggled weapon, a steel file, and stab James in the neck with its sharp point. Luckily, it didn’t come to that. After declaring that he would have to be removed from the floor—"I will continue on this floor until I complete my statement unless somebody carries me off, and I should like to see the man who will do it"—La Follette was finally convinced to take his seat. He was one of just six senators to vote against a declaration of war a few weeks later.


5. Bob La Follette, 1908

You'd think La Follette would have avoided the stall tactic entirely after flirting with a fatal filibuster in '08. As we saw earlier this week, filibustering requires food. So sometime around 1 a.m. on May 30, La Follette asked a page to get him a turkey sandwich and a glass of milk mixed with raw eggs for fortification. Though perhaps it was an honest mistake, the Senate website suggests that the kitchen staff, annoyed at having to work around the clock for the filibuster, purposely used eggs that had gone over. La Follette noticed that the drink tasted suspect after taking a big gulp, but the damage had been done: Shortly thereafter, the senator began feeling sick and started sweating profusely. He stepped down from filibustering around 7 a.m. after 18 hours and 23 minutes at the pulpit. Tests on the drink showed that its contents were so toxic that they would have killed anyone who drank the entire glass.


http://mentalfloss.com/article/49360/5-famous-filibusters
 
It really is a testament to the laziness and stupidity of the general populace that we haven't stormed capitol hill with pitchforks yet. We just let them run the country into the ground and abuse the hell out of the law.



I mean blocking a bill by reading childrens stories? Sigh.
 
No, it's undemocratic to put arbitrary limits on how long a democratically elected official can speak on behalf of their constituents. Fascist.

So you think it is democratic that theoretically speaking, there should be no limits? Then why have limits on the numbers of speakers? Never go to vote again due to year-round speeches?

It is bullshit and you know it.
 
So you think it is democratic that theoretically speaking, there should be no limits? Then why have limits on the numbers of speakers? Never go to vote again due to year-round speeches?

It is bullshit and you know it.
Don't mind him, he's just trollin.
 
I'm sure there are a lot of tactics when it comes to playing the game.

Like burying something nasty in an omnibus along side something for feeding children or something. Then try to shame your opponent for being against the children.
 
Thats odd. When Wendy Davis filibustered an abortion bill in Tx she was a hero. In fact it catapulted her to a failed attempt in the governors race. A future TV pilot on NBC.

Seriously we all do this.
-Im appalled..(unless its something Im in favor for.) Its actually funny,disingenuous but still funny.

http://theweek.com/articles/462815/wendy-davis-stunning-filibuster-texas-abortion-bill

http://time.com/3318582/wendy-davis-filibuster-memoir/
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/06/26/3453508/one-year-wendy-davis-filibuster/

I challenge anyone to find someone on the left complaining about Wendy's filibuster
 
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