Media DDP's coach: "That guy is one dimensional, have you seen his standup? I wouldn't even give him a pro license for his sh*t standup"

[Gilday]

His coach has really got some of you in your feelings, huh?

Khamzat has power but he's shown nothing to make me think he's anything beyond average on the feet. Which is fine because he's elite at grappling. DDP however messy has won rounds on the feet against Strickland/Adesanya and knocked out Whittaker.

It's MMA of course anything can happen, but DDP absolutely has the striking advantage on paper.

 

[mkess101]

DDP has outstruck much better strikers than Khamzat though DDP's coach is not coming off well here.

If Khamzat is going to win it will be by taking DDP down, he would most likely get pieced up by DDP in a five round fight on the feet.

His coach has really got some of you in your feelings, huh?

Khamzat has power but he's shown nothing to make me think he's anything beyond average on the feet. Which is fine because he's elite at grappling. DDP however messy has won rounds on the feet against Strickland/Adesanya and knocked out Whittaker.

It's MMA of course anything can happen, but DDP absolutely has the striking advantage on paper.

How is it 2025 and people don't realize that MMA blends all skills together, all the time? They don't strike for a round, then grapple for a round. When getting taken down and mauled isn't part of the equation, striking looks vastly different. Think DDP had one iota of worry about Izzy taking him down lol?

Why I'd need to point this out is a mystery.

 

[188912345]

I just don't see how his coach trash talking is to the benefit of DDP at all.

If he loses, it will look worse, losing to a one dimensional fighter.

If he wins, it's no big deal, since he wasn't that good anyway and one dimensional.

 

[Tatra]

Unironically proof of a great chin.

Well he certainly needs it. But Burns isn't a big puncher so it's not proof of that.

 

[188912345]

Well he certainly needs it. But Burns isn't a big puncher so it's not proof of that.

It's rare that we see fighters eat punches landing as cleanly as that. Burns threw everything into that one and it landed flush, only for Khamzat to take him down 2 seconds later.

And that was at 170 where he's more depleted than at 185.

I think that points to an above average chin.

 

[rjmbrd]

I know what he means though. If Chimaev can't get the takedown and then the back, he isn't anything out of the ordinary in the stand up.

This.

Khamzat had a stand-up war with Burns and got knocked down - he's going to sleep if he lets Dricus tag him like that. Then in the Usman fight, they had two rounds of what was essentially MMA kickboxing and Khamzat couldn't do anything. Forget knocking him down, he didn't even stun him and leaves with a majority decision.

He's a freaky good submission grappler and athlete, particularly in the first round. Outside of that he's never shown any stand-up that is impressive.

This is MMA, anything can happen, Khamzat hits hard and surely can KO anyone, but its not his biggest threat.

 

[rjmbrd]

It's rare that we see fighters eat punches landing as cleanly as that. Burns threw everything into that one and it landed flush, only for Khamzat to take him down 2 seconds later.

You are completely delusional with this Khamzat stuff.

It is demonstrably, objectively false to say its rare we see fighters hit clean. That is so absolutely stupid a lie at face value, I cannot believe you are willing to type that over this. We're trailing into Andy Kaufman surrealist comedy routine stuff here.

Setting that aside, Burns is a former lightweight and hilariously undersized next to Khamzat. For reference, Burns has had 6 UFC fights since he fought Khamzat and scored ZERO T/KOs. Not one. He hasn't even knocked anyone down since dropping Khamzat.

And that was at 170 where he's more depleted than at 185.

I think that points to an above average chin.

If he gets hit by an actual middleweight the same way Burns hit him - he's in a lot more trouble.

Burns has zero KOs at welterweight, and in 15 fights a single TKO, over a hundred year old Maia.

You don't know what you're talking about or you're just a weirdo. Either way, enough with this.

 

[hbombbisping]

How is it 2025 and people don't realize that MMA blends all skills together, all the time? They don't strike for a round, then grapple for a round. When getting taken down and mauled isn't part of the equation, striking looks vastly different. Think DDP had one iota of worry about Izzy taking him down lol?

Why I'd need to point this out is a mystery.

Even with the superior "wrestlers striking advantage" Khamzat arguably lost the striking to former LW Gilbert Burns and Usman, he hasn't really outstruck anyone of note, even with the wrestling advantage, so what they tells me is that DDP's coach probably right, Khamzat's striking is second rate at best.

 

[MigitAs]

Khamzat has more than one impressive striking ko so this is kind of crazy to say

 

[188912345]

You are completely delusional with this Khamzat stuff.

It is demonstrably, objectively false to say its rare we see fighters hit clean. That is so absolutely stupid a lie at face value, I cannot believe you are willing to type that over this. We're trailing into Andy Kaufman surrealist comedy routine stuff here.

Setting that aside, Burns is a former lightweight and hilariously undersized next to Khamzat. For reference, Burns has had 6 UFC fights since he fought Khamzat and scored ZERO T/KOs. Not one. He hasn't even knocked anyone down since dropping Khamzat.




If he gets hit by an actual middleweight the same way Burns hit him - he's in a lot more trouble.

Burns has zero KOs at welterweight, and in 15 fights a single TKO, over a hundred year old Maia.

You don't know what you're talking about or you're just a weirdo. Either way, enough with this.

Fighters get hit clean, sure.
As clean as that? Not super often.
And my quote was also "eat punches landing as clean as that", meaning not get knocked out or TKO'd from them.

Burns hurt Usman multiple times, and Usman wasn't rushing in like that with hands down and his chin on a platter.

Has he hit anyone as clean as that since he fought Khamzat?

You do realize that when someone fights at WW, he weighs in as a WW, fighting against someone else who weighs in the same.

When someone fights at MW, they will weigh in at 185-186, and be way heavier than at WW.

Being heavier doesn't just make people punch harder, it also makes them take damage better.

Btw, no way Whittaker can beat Romero, he was finished by pillow fist Wonderboy at 170.

No way DDP can win at MW, he was KOd at WW.

Do you see how stupid your argument is?

I admire your persistency in your ability to only see Khamzat from a glass half empty perspective, and your complete disregard of objectivity, which makes you believe I'm the one being unreasonable, when your arguments, if true, would make Khamzat an underdog in every possible matchup at MW.

It also matches perfectly with the attitude of your profile picture, kudos.

 

[hbombbisping]

Khamzat has more than one impressive striking ko so this is kind of crazy to say

Against some cans or gatekeepers? Doesn't mean much. DDP tko'ed Bobby, outstruck Strickland, and even Israel at points. Three ex UFC champs. Huge gulf in actual in cage accomplishments.

 

[mkess101]

Even with the superior "wrestlers striking advantage" Khamzat arguably lost the striking to former LW Gilbert Burns and Usman, he hasn't really outstruck anyone of note, even with the wrestling advantage, so what they tells me is that DDP's coach probably right, Khamzat's striking is second rate at best.

Burns fight was weird. He genuinely respected Burns world champ bjj pedigree and his coach told him not to mess around too much with Gilbert on the mat. Amd just like the "wrestlers striking advantage", elite bjj players have it too. A guy who's legit world class doesn't mind being taken down. He worries WAY less than someone who's gonna be in more trouble on their back.
Usman has all time great TDD, but Khamzat had REALLY slowed by the time there was any striking. And that's absolutely still a concern imo. Personally I think he's addressed it most likely and is probably past his lung issues, but we don't know that for sure until he shows it. I think he went into the Usman fight assuming he'd get him out of there quickly and his cardio wasn't a real camp focus. This is admittedly conjecture by me to a degree. But great fighters grow and learn. If Khamzat is truly great, he looked at the Burns and Usman fights and said "these are the best guys in the world, there are gonna be times that no matter now ferocious I am early in a fight, they don't go away and I need to be able to keep my pace". That said...he won both fights. But great fighters learn from wins too.

 

[mkess101]

Against some cans or gatekeepers? Doesn't mean much. DDP tko'ed Bobby, outstruck Strickland, and even Israel at points. Three ex UFC champs. Huge gulf in actual in cage accomplishments.

I think Aliskerov will end up being better than a gatekeeper but yes DDP has obviously outstruck much better fighters than Khamzat has. I'd pick DDP in a kickboxing match, even with his awkward style.

We'll see how much striking plays a role. And if Khamzat's grappling threat levels that playing field quite a bit.

 

[hbombbisping]

Burns fight was weird. He genuinely respected Burns world champ bjj pedigree and his coach told him not to mess around too much with Gilbert on the mat. Amd just like the "wrestlers striking advantage", elite bjj players have it too. A guy who's legit world class doesn't mind being taken down. He worries WAY less than someone who's gonna be in more trouble on their back.
Usman has all time great TDD, but Khamzat had REALLY slowed by the time there was any striking. And that's absolutely still a concern imo. Personally I think he's addressed it most likely and is probably past his lung issues, but we don't know that for sure until he shows it. I think he went into the Usman fight assuming he'd get him out of there quickly and his cardio wasn't a real camp focus. This is admittedly conjecture by me to a degree. But great fighters grow and learn. If Khamzat is truly great, he looked at the Burns and Usman fights and said "these are the best guys in the world, there are gonna be times that no matter now ferocious I am early in a fight, they don't go away and I need to be able to keep my pace". That said...he won both fights. But great fighters learn from wins too.

Khamzat's cardio is just bad for a power grappler. Watch his grappling match with Hermanson. I think his cardio makes his striking even sloppier this is why he has problems in some of his fights.

 

[mkess101]

Khamzat's cardio is just bad for a power grappler. Watch his grappling match with Hermanson. I think his cardio makes his striking even sloppier this is why he has problems in some of his fights.

That was awhile back. More recently watch him vs Arman. I understand there's a size difference (which had Khamzat getting the better of it somewhat easily--although Arman hung in there) but Arman is a helluva grappler and it was high paced the whole time. Khamzat looked good, didn’t seem to tire much at all.

 

[swizztony]

Saying this while you’re the striking coach of Homer Simpson is crazy

 

[richardjohnson]

I think Khamzat is more well rounded than this guy is giving him credit for, he’s not some elite kickboxer but he has decent hands and seems to hit pretty hard. That being said Khamzat’s technique definitely falls off as he fatigues.

I assume the guy is just saying this but they would be foolish to think Khamzat has no chance on the feet, Dricus isn’t exactly the cleanest striker out there either.

 

[hbombbisping]

That was awhile back. More recently watch him vs Arman. I understand there's a size difference (which had Khamzat getting the better of it somewhat easily--although Arman hung in there) but Arman is a helluva grappler and it was high paced the whole time. Khamzat looked good, didn’t seem to tire much at all.

That was just over 5 minutes long though (Khamzat's cardio problems typically take longer to manifest), and like you said Arman was the much smaller, weaker guy and Khamzat was in control the entire time (with no GNP) so the conditions for him were favourable not to gas and that doesn't tell us much about this fight against a much bigger and stronger opponent.

 

[mkess101]

That was just over 5 minutes long though (Khamzat's cardio problems typically take longer to manifest), and like you said Arman was the much smaller, weaker guy and Khamzat was in control the entire time (with no GNP) so the conditions for him were favourable not to gas and that doesn't tell us much about this fight against a much stronger opponent.

I think about 7.5 minutes or so? But no breaks, and there were a lot of scrambles. It's one thing--obviously how much it means can be debated but with the pace it was a solid look for him imo.

 

[rjmbrd]

Fighters get hit clean, sure.
As clean as that? Not super often.
And my quote was also "eat punches landing as clean as that", meaning not get knocked out or TKO'd from them.

Burns hurt Usman multiple times, and Usman wasn't rushing in like that with hands down and his chin on a platter.

Has he hit anyone as clean as that since he fought Khamzat?

You do realize that when someone fights at WW, he weighs in as a WW, fighting against someone else who weighs in the same.

When someone fights at MW, they will weigh in at 185-186, and be way heavier than at WW.

Being heavier doesn't just make people punch harder, it also makes them take damage better.

Btw, no way Whittaker can beat Romero, he was finished by pillow fist Wonderboy at 170.

No way DDP can win at MW, he was KOd at WW.

Do you see how stupid your argument is?

I admire your persistency in your ability to only see Khamzat from a glass half empty perspective, and your complete disregard of objectivity, which makes you believe I'm the one being unreasonable, when your arguments, if true, would make Khamzat an underdog in every possible matchup at MW.

It also matches perfectly with the attitude of your profile picture, kudos.

You are an absolute weirdo.

Cheers