DDP first african champ

[Pequeño Corey]

At least for Ngannou it is very dishonest to say that.
His country had ZERO mma gym, and he literally opened a network of mma gyms and infrastructures in Cameroon.



And there as never been a Dagestani champion yet.

 

[TheBulge]

What? He wasnt even the first in the UFC. I dont know enough MMA history to know who was the first because there are a ton of MMA orgs out there and throughout history.

Unless you mean South African?

EDIT: If you mean training and fighting out of the continent of Africa, then yes, I believe DDP is the first in the UFC.

Confusion, ignorance, reluctance, willingness to learn and acceptance all packed in one short, shitty post. I like it.

 

[Harlekin]

At least for Ngannou it is very dishonest to say that.
His country had ZERO mma gym, and he literally opened a network of mma gyms and infrastructures in Cameroon.



And there as never been a Dagestani champion yet.

African champs have to be black, born there and train there. It's the rule.
It's ok for Dagestani Champs to be made at AMERICAN Kickboxing Academy

 

[spinup]

Islam and Khabib are californians fighting out of San Jose. I didn't make the rule, OP did.

Sure if we look at brazilians champs, it will be more of the same thing.

 

[AmonTobin]

This thread held little promise but the Ngannou stories made it worth the visit.

 

[The Siege]

Confusion, ignorance, reluctance, willingness to learn and acceptance all packed in one short, shitty post. I like it.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, buddy

I read the first post quickly while working, misread it, and corrected myself after posting lol Do you feel like a brave boy for pointing that out?

 

[MMAcolyte]

Not the first from Africa, but the first who actually trains in Africa. Just like Leon was the first English champ who actually trained and lived in England, unlike Bisping.

Not "just like" Leon, actually. Leon was born in Jamaica and spent his infancy and most of his childhood in Jamaica. Moved to England when he was 9 or 10, I believe.

Dricus was born in Africa and has never resided anywhere else, as far as I know. He's probably...3rd generation? 4th generation?

 

[Söze Aldo]

Not "just like" Leon, actually. Leon was born in Jamaica and spent his infancy and most of his childhood in Jamaica. Moved to England when he was 9 or 10, I believe.

Dricus was born in Africa and has never resided anywhere else, as far as I know. He's probably...3rd generation? 4th generation?

Your childhood doesn't end at 10. Leon's formative years, certainly the ones where he decided to enter MMA, were in England. He doesn't have a Jamaican accent he has one of the 200 English accents there seems to exist there.

Which goes back to why I see Usman and Israel as American and Kiwi respectively, they both had their formative years in those countries.

Francis was nearly in his late 20s by the time he got out of Africa.

 

[NoSmilez]

I think people don't like it when the promotion rubs it in people's faces. We don't give people like Weili shit about not training in her home country. Her coaches aren't Chinese either. She has a head MMA coach but that Chinese guy is more of her manager. He doesn't train her.

 

[cburm]

African or African American you have Francis and Izzy who's African American .

Usmen I believe is a black American..

DDp I guess if he lives in Africa and never got a citizen ship in America then yeah he's the first African champ .. people will hate this because they think African mean black person and South Africa and Egypt theyl say aren't in the continent of Africa along with many other places. And youre only living in Africa if you Ethiopian Cameroon Nigerian and a few other house hold regions Americans understand as black folks

 

[checktheknuckles]

It's technically true at least for UFC, but it's not fair to compare his story to someone like Francis. DDP had all the support, resources and infrastructure to live and train MMA in South Africa, Francis had to walk across the Sahara desert to find a place to train.

I don't consider guys like Marty and Izzy who lived in the west since childhood "African fighters" though.

What a racist take. Bc DDP is white, he had all the resources, but since Ngannou isn't a white, he had no resources?

 

[Söze Aldo]

What a racist take. Bc DDP is white, he had all the resources, but since Ngannou isn't a white, he had no resources?

Google South Africa-Cameroon GDP.

 

[checktheknuckles]

Google South Africa-Cameroon GDP.

So because DDP is a white african he got money backing him? LMAO Thats the only reason why Elon made it like he did too?

 

[ticho123]

It was Sokoudjou. M'pumbo in bellator was technically the first actual African champ in a major MMA org

Sokodjou a real one! I kinda kept tabs on his career after he left the UFC but he never really bounced back. Underrated win for Machida, submitting him when he was fresh from back-to-back KOs of Lil Nog and Arona

 

[Koro_11]

Mike Perry, it shoulda been him

While he’s certainly African, he was not a champ.

 

[WokeWarrior]

Is DDP the first real african mma champ from africa or there were others in the past?

I followed ufc in the last years and I've never seen other real african champs who live in africa then.

Maybe in other organizations that happen?

I dont know about REAL or FIRST "African" , but i think
the word you are looking for is BOER/ Afrikaan champ....

so yes hes the first BOER/AFRIKAAN that won the UFC title, that i guess
"RESIDES" in south africa.
now whether theres gonna be more champs from africa that remains to be seen.
Not cause theres no talent cause BOY.
Oh boy if you thought izzy usman and francis were spectacular in their primes GOOD LORD.

Could you imagine some jon jones/ Yoel/ rumble/ francis hybrid somewhere chilling
in the congo just waiting to be discovered


But honestly unless they were super desperate to leave their country and desperate to make money
I wouldnt ever ever recommend no Africans to go into MMA anyways.

THERES NO FREAKING MONEY IN IT. why the HELL would you get into a sport where they dont even pay
american fighters the big bucks. not only that you got to deal with fans who not only are backwards but dont appreciate
your talent. Then the Pay is bad. and then you got Dana white to deal with. You think dana cares if you come from a poor country,
look how he treated Francis.
sure soccer fans and hooligans suck but at least you can be an international superstar and make millions. Same with Boxing..

To make the long story short Up the pay and make it worth their while.....

Spoiler: Cain discovers African wrestling

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Is DDP the first real african mma champ from africa or there were others in the past?

I followed ufc in the last years and I've never seen other real african champs who live in africa then.

Maybe in other organizations that happen?

And you know it

 

[The Siege]

And you know it

Yeah its a dumb thinly veiled rage-bait post.

Anyone actually wondering if DDP is the first fighter fighting out of Africa would ask:

"Is DDP the first African fighter to win the belt while fighting and training out of the African continent?"

 

[MMAcolyte]

Your childhood doesn't end at 10. Leon's formative years, certainly the ones where he decided to enter MMA, were in England. He doesn't have a Jamaican accent he has one of the 200 English accents there seems to exist there.

Which goes back to why I see Usman and Israel as American and Kiwi respectively, they both had their formative years in those countries.

Francis was nearly in his late 20s by the time he got out of Africa.

No, but adolescence begins not too long after that. Adolescence isn't adulthood but it's distinctly different than childhood.

And I didn't say his childhood ended when he got to England. I just said most of it was spent in Jamaica. Which is actually debatable, it's probably closer to 50/50.

But it's not the point at all and not the reason why you missed the mark. Either way, not at all the same thing as living one's whole life in the place where their parents, grandparents, and maybe even great grandparents and beyond lived all of theirs.

 

[Rationality]

It's technically true at least for UFC, but it's not fair to compare his story to someone like Francis. DDP had all the support, resources and infrastructure to live and train MMA in South Africa, Francis had to walk across the Sahara desert to find a place to train.

I don't consider guys like Marty and Izzy who lived in the west since childhood "African fighters" though.

Francis could've also gone to South Africa to train, couldn't he?