Crime Dayton, OH Nightclub Shooting: 9 Dead, 26 Injured

Not A Theist said:
See post #25. The left at large won't consider them the dead, and that's at the heart of the issue. The right (and myself) does consider them the dead though, and has made it a political matter. By definition, the right politicizes the dead.
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By your definition, the left and right both do.
 
Scrody said:
By your definition, the left and right both do.
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Yep. I'm not denying that. The left politicizing the dead is what this thread is all about, after all. I think either side acting like the other side doesn't is the tricky part here.
 
Hopefully the men over 60 stay away from the Trump supporters at this protest or they will get met with a flurry of pillow fists.
 
Not A Theist said:
See post #25. The left at large won't consider them the dead, and that's at the heart of the issue. The right (and myself) does consider them the dead though, and has made it a political matter. By definition, the right politicizes the dead.
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Wrong. The left as you define them is under the impression that they can just redefine the problem away. If they just call the baby a "zygote" or a "fetus", then they don't have to confront the the reality of what is being done.

You're also wrong as to who made it a political matter. The Supreme Court politicized this matter. We're all just living with the Fallout.

You're generally a good poster. But I'm sorry, the idea that the right politicized this matter is pure sophistry at best.
 
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Looks like more "orange man bad" stuff to me...........
 
Happy Man said:
No the left literally calls the right murderers and saying we are responsible.

It’s awful. And the liberal playbook is disgusting
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People got banned right after for saying the left was responsible with their calls for open borders. If you value your account it's best not to blame anyone.
 
Farmer Br0wn said:
Wrong. The left as you define them is under the impression that they can just redefine the problem away. If they just call the baby a "zygote" or a "fetus", then they don't have to confront the the reality of what is being done.

You're also wrong as to who made it a political matter. The Supreme Court politicized this matter. We're all just living with the Fallout.

You're generally a good poster. But I'm sorry, the idea that the right politicized this matter is pure sophistry at best.
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If they can define the problem away, they can define the problem away. Whether they've done that successfully is in question, but if the definition of human being doesn't include a fetus or a zygote, then abortion really isn't murder. The idea that anyone has settled the issue of whether those things are human beings is likely just a sign of the speaker's bias, and not of it actually being settled.

Thank you for the general compliment. I disagree on your last point though. Since the right sincerely believes that killing a fetus is ending a human life, I don't believe that the right politicizing it in any way relies on the Supreme Court weighing in. It's all but a moral imperative that they do politicize it, utilizing any means at their disposal to end state sanctioned murder. Nonetheless, this brings me back to my original point - that the right most certainly does politicize deaths. At this point the only thing that has me thinking I may be wrong on this point is that WDA liked one of my posts...
 
Happy Man said:
No the left literally calls the right murderers and saying we are responsible.

It’s awful. And the liberal playbook is disgusting
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Not as disgusting as this desperate attempt at deflection.
 
WarDosAnjos said:
You mean posting breaking world news that no one else has the courage to post on this form? Brother, I'm just spreading the word.
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No. I don't think people are afraid to post something from CNN, I think people don't care about a couple hundred people protesting Trump and I don't think that's breaking news. Not only that, there's not much to discuss. People protest Trump, we all know that. It's not an exorbitant amount like protesters in Chicago during the campaign. It seems like you want comments on everything CNN puts out, maybe you should ask CNN to bring back their comments if you need that fix.
 
Inquisitor said:
People got banned right after for saying the left was responsible with their calls for open borders. If you value your account it's best not to blame anyone.
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I’m saying the media and democratic politicians are indeed calling republican voters supporters of mass murder.

It’s in the news feeds.

Why is this a deal to Be banned over?
 
foxnewsfan said:
I believe the kids are calling them "incels" these days.
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You mean the angry conservative neo nazis who have taken over the internet crying about white genocide and blaming women that they can't get laid even though they don't go outside in the first place? Yep, Incels.
 
WarDosAnjos said:
You mean the angry conservative neo nazis who have taken over the internet crying about white genocide and blaming women that they can't get laid even though they don't go outside in the first place? Yep, Incels.
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Those aren't conservatives in that picture. Keep up dumbass
 
Happy Man said:
I’m saying the media and democratic politicians are indeed calling republican voters supporters of mass murder.

It’s in the news feeds.

Why is this a deal to Be banned over?
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Well I think you can say it's the rights fault and they support all that, you just can't say it's the left's fault.

That might change. We're living in very sensitive times my friend.
 
WarDosAnjos said:
So proud of my fellow Americans. Change is here and there's nothing the Regressive Right or the TDFoS (Trump Defense Force of Sherdog) can do about it. I'll be attending some anti Trump protests myself here soon and will be sure to take pictures for you guys.

People are fed up with false promises and no progress. They are peacefully congregating for change. Many liberals have been met with death threats and hate speech. But it hasn't deterred us. Change is here.

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Anti-Trump protesters have gathered in Dayton, Ohio. The President and first lady Melania Trump are visiting the city following this weekend's mass shooting, which left nine people dead.

The protesters have set up a "Trump Baby" balloon, and many are holding signs. Some of the messages read:

  • "Do something"
  • "Ban assault weapons"
  • "We need gun control not thoughts & prayers"
  • "Trump's presence only worsens our trauma"
  • "Drain the your swamp"
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https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/dayton-el-paso-shootings-trump-visit/index.html
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Those losers should probably get jobs.
 
WarDosAnjos said:
They are likely conservative operatives made to make the left look bad and stop the revolution.
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Doubtful. Conservatives can't just up and leave their jobs. These are definitely liberals. Just look at all the hopelessness in their eyes, even they don't know why they're there.
 
This Ohio Senator just downplayed Bush Jr lying about the Iraq war, to compare him favorably to Trump. LOL.

"I didn't agree with President Bush on a lot of things. He lied about the Iraq war, but after 9/11 he went to a mosque and said that Muslims didn't attack the WTC, terrorists did."

There ya go. Lie that killed millions isn't that big of deal, because Bush didn't blame Muslims for 9/11. Trump's been doing this thing all wrong. More war, less mean tweets.
 
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