Dana White on Pawn Stars (Full Clip)

Dana... This guy made the UFC into a $4 billion business... :eek:
 
covenant said:
why ?
Click to expand...
Those swords were in families for centuries, something considered to be worth way more than money, and they were passed down through generations of warrior after warrior - even if the owner was defeated Japanese honor said that the sword should be returned to the family. Obviously this was only a code amongst warriors, but when the war came, an enormous amount of swords went to the soldiers that were fighting in it... When they were killed, the Americans looted their bodies for personal gain, a war crime forbidden by the Geneva Convention, and took thousands of swords back to America as souvenirs, largely unaware of either their significance, or value... Most of these swords ended up in the hands of collectors and art dealers, who are now selling them for up to millions to the rich and famous.

There is a charity in Japan that buys these swords from the collectors to return to the families they were stolen from... A lot of shame was brought to families that lost their swords, a lot of suicides, a lot of stigma that still brings shame to families today...

For us they're just cool things to have in your house, to the Japanese they were stolen from, it's their entire family history which is traceable through the various trinkets, inscriptions and decorations on many of them... And now centuries of tradition are lost, and the only people that benefit are rich wankers like Dana, and scumbag 2nd hand dealers who sell the spoils of war crime which still cause people direct pain to this day.
 
Last edited:
Buff said:
There is a charity in Japan that buys these swords from the collectors to return to the families they were stolen from... A lot of shame was brought to families that lost their swords, a lot of suicides, a lot of stigma that still brings shame to families today... For us they're just cool things to have in your house, to the Japanese they were stolen from, it's their entire family history which is traceable through the various trinkets, inscriptions and decorations on many of them... And now centuries of trading are list and the only people that benefit are rich wankers like Dana, and scumbag 2nd hand dealers.
Click to expand...

that makes owning these swords even more badass.
 
Oeshon said:
that makes owning these swords even more badass.
Click to expand...

War Crime... As badass as it gets!

Screen_shot_2012-02-10_at_11.25.26_PM.png
 
No one else noticed the swords appraisers name is Yamasaki lmao
 
EGarrett said:


I know this was discussed in a thread before, but the full clip was just posted by the History Channel.
Click to expand...


Thanks!

Watched it.

Dana is the complete opposite in negotiations with fighters - so that he can barely try when negotiating for $70k of swords lol.

Anyway love the swords thx
 
Buff said:
Those swords were in families for centuries, something considered to. be worth way more than money, and they were passed down through generations of warrior after warrior - even if the owner was defeated Japanese honor said that the sword should be returned to the family. Obviously this was only a code amongst warriors, but when the war came, an enormous amount of swords went to the soldiers that were fighting in it... When they were killed, the Americans looted their bodies for personal gain, a war crime forbidden by the Geneva Convention, and took thousands of swords back to America as souvenirs, largely unaware of either their significance, or value... Most of these swords ended up in the hands of collectors and art dealers, who are now selling them for up to millions to the rich and famous.

There is a charity in Japan that buys these swords from the collectors to return to the families they were stolen from... A lot of shame was brought to families that lost their swords, a lot of suicides, a lot of stigma that still brings shame to families today...

For us they're just cool things to have in your house, to the Japanese they were stolen from, it's their entire family history which is traceable through the various trinkets, inscriptions and decorations on many of them... And now centuries of tradition are lost, and the only people that benefit are rich wankers like Dana, and scumbag 2nd hand dealers who sell the spoils of war crime.
Click to expand...

thats one way of putting it. i see it as war loot to be honest although i see why many japanese families would want their heirlooms back but thats up to collectors or the relatives who now own those swords. you mentioned stolen, they werent stolen.

remember all those heirlooms and treasures that were nabbed when the imperial japanese army toured asia ?
 
Arrrrgh said:
This is UFC discussion, definitely.
Click to expand...
It prompts discussion relevant to the UFC because it reveals information about how much disposable income Dana really has compared to what fighters get paid, how he negotiates and so on.
 
Blanqa Blanqua said:
Lololololol
Click to expand...

His first name even starts with an M too lol I wonder if that was planned or just a seriously crazy coincidence. I imagine this was probably recorded before the Yamasaki thing happened and I kind of doubt theyd script that anyway so it must be the latter. Pretty wild.
 
covenant said:
thats one way of putting it. i see it as war loot to be honest although i see why many japanese families would want their heirlooms back but thats up to collectors or the relatives who now own those swords. you mentioned stolen, they werent stolen.

remember all those heirlooms and treasures that were nabbed when the imperial japanese army toured asia ?
Click to expand...

I mean I hear that, but looting was illegal back then - The litany of Japanese war crimes made it seem excusable back then, but with the memories of the war faded, and the desire to be reconnected to their family's history still burning strong, the ethical thing to do is give the swords back.
 
it's a reality show so you have to question it, but still neat.
 
covenant said:
thats one way of putting it. i see it as war loot to be honest although i see why many japanese families would want their heirlooms back but thats up to collectors or the relatives who now own those swords. you mentioned stolen, they werent stolen.

remember all those heirlooms and treasures that were nabbed when the imperial japanese army toured asia ?
Click to expand...
Those were stolen too.
The Japanese have no right to them
 
Buff said:
I mean I hear that, but looting was illegal back then - The litany of Japanese war crimes made it seem excusable back then, but with the memories of the war faded, and the desire to be reconnected to their family's history still burning strong, the ethical thing to do is give the swords back.
Click to expand...

what if i had one, a really old one ?

why should i give it away to some japanese bloke ?
 
covenant said:
what if i had one, a really old one ?

why should i give it away to some japanese bloke ?
Click to expand...
Up to you man... If you were able to decipher the family name on the sword and trace it to the right wing of the family, you would be doing something of a heroic act for which you would be admired and loved...

It really depends on the owner... Some people like having ivory trinkets or tiger skin rugs - others like the idea a lot less.
 
D
Buff said:
Those swords were in families for centuries, something considered to. be worth way more than money, and they were passed down through generations of warrior after warrior - even if the owner was defeated Japanese honor said that the sword should be returned to the family. Obviously this was only a code amongst warriors, but when the war came, an enormous amount of swords went to the soldiers that were fighting in it... When they were killed, the Americans looted their bodies for personal gain, a war crime forbidden by the Geneva Convention, and took thousands of swords back to America as souvenirs, largely unaware of either their significance, or value... Most of these swords ended up in the hands of collectors and art dealers, who are now selling them for up to millions to the rich and famous.

There is a charity in Japan that buys these swords from the collectors to return to the families they were stolen from... A lot of shame was brought to families that lost their swords, a lot of suicides, a lot of stigma that still brings shame to families today...

For us they're just cool things to have in your house, to the Japanese they were stolen from, it's their entire family history which is traceable through the various trinkets, inscriptions and decorations on many of them... And now centuries of tradition are lost, and the only people that benefit are rich wankers like Dana, and scumbag 2nd hand dealers who sell the spoils of war crime.
Click to expand...
Do you have any idea what they did in Nanking? Let them get a taste of their own medicine.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,255,797
Messages
56,739,284
Members
175,382
Latest member
LaPalmaJoa

Share this page

Back
Top