Media Dana White hires match maker for a day contest winner Joe!

HuskySamoan said:
Should have been me. Good for Joe though.
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Brother.. have you seen the pic? That dude is at least 1 foot below sherdog standards.

Hopefully this guy trolls everyone and puts a Conor McGregor vs Diego Sanchez type of crap
 
SalvadorAllende said:
Pereira is no longer a WW and Shavkat would mop the floor with him anyways. I think you lost with that one.
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You do realize this contest was held when Pereira was still a welterweight right? It was while he was booked to fight Wonderboy.
 
Pierced7681 said:
You do realize this contest was held when Pereira was still a welterweight right? It was while he was booked to fight Wonderboy.
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IDK.. but Shavkat should have gotten someone ranked higher.

Also you failed in not giving Colbi a Title shot in 2 o 3 weightclasses. For some reason Dana likes gifting him some of those.
 
SalvadorAllende said:
IDK.. but Shavkat should have gotten someone ranked higher.

Also you failed in not giving Colbi a Title shot in 2 o 3 weightclasses. For some reason Dana likes gifting him some of those.
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Lol Pereira is on a five fight win streak currently at welterweight, Shavkat is also on a five fight win streak at welterweight. Would’ve been a good fight if Pereira had any dedication to making weight.
 
Pierced7681 said:
Lol Pereira is on a five fight win streak currently at welterweight, Shavkat is also on a five fight win streak at welterweight. Would’ve been a good fight if Pereira had any dedication to making weight.
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Brother.. Shavkat just beat Geoff Neal who was top 5 or around that. He is undefeated and 100% finish rate.

Pereira scrapped a SD against shopworn Ponzinibbio he has 3 decision wins before that.

They are not in the same galaxy at this point. Fun fight? Sure.. but not one that should happen.
 
Joe should say "fuck" a lot around Dana to encourage a promotion.
 
Pierced7681 said:
I literally disagree with everything you just wrote. You’re definitely a smart poster, but we can just agree to disagree at this point. I prefer the ufc the way it is now more than how it used to be.
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You seem like a savvy fan, so I don't want to belittle you - you are entitled to like whatever it is that you like and if you prefer the UFC this way then so be it.

But you literally have not made any type of valid argument as to why this is better and every single one of your points I presented extensive logical arguments against that you just brush aside with "I disagree with you" without even the semblance of a counter-argument.

I just showed you exactly how the UFC has systematically reduced the overall quality of fights significantly by filling the ranks with lower-level regional tier fighters. They've essentially killed regional MMA and over-filled the UFC with tons of sub-par fighters so that the good ones don't even fight that often. Not my cup of tea (or any hardcore fans for that matter) - once you've seen enough fights the only ones that matter are the high-level ones, everything else is just filler.

Again, you are entitled to like having tons of shitty fights all the time with underpaid fighters that 90%+ will wash out in a couple years without you ever remembering their fights or names, I just can't for the life of me understand why - it doesn't make the sport better (watered down product = worse sport), it doesn't help those fighters (they get to the UFC on shitty contracts and burn out before they are developed), and it certainly doesn't make for entertaining fights (the entire reason we watch).

You do you Sherbro.

<Fedor23>
 
TheMMAnalyst said:
You seem like a savvy fan, so I don't want to belittle you - you are entitled to like whatever it is that you like and if you prefer the UFC this way then so be it.

But you literally have not made any type of valid argument as to why this is better and every single one of your points I presented extensive logical arguments against that you just brush aside with "I disagree with you" without even the semblance of a counter-argument.

I just showed you exactly how the UFC has systematically reduced the overall quality of fights significantly by filling the ranks with lower-level regional tier fighters. They've essentially killed regional MMA and over-filled the UFC with tons of sub-par fighters so that the good ones don't even fight that often. Not my cup of tea (or any hardcore fans for that matter) - once you've seen enough fights the only ones that matter are the high-level ones, everything else is just filler.

Again, you are entitled to like having tons of shitty fights all the time with underpaid fighters that 90%+ will wash out in a couple years without you ever remembering their fights or names, I just can't for the life of me understand why - it doesn't make the sport better (watered down product = worse sport), it doesn't help those fighters (they get to the UFC on shitty contracts and burn out before they are developed), and it certainly doesn't make for entertaining fights (the entire reason we watch).

You do you Sherbro.

<Fedor23>
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I provided plenty of logical arguments. The reality is, your opinion on the current ufc is just different than mine and it’s not worth arguing about. I prefer weekly ufc fight cards, and in order to hold weekly fight cards, the ufc needs more fighters. Bottom line, I prefer the ufc the way it is now compared to how it used to be, it’s a preference, which is why I said we can agree to disagree. Not going to waste anymore of my time on this, you can keep complaining about the ufc and I’ll keep watching it.
 
he must be the culprit in matching paddy and tony.

oh look at the mamboobs
 
Pierced7681 said:
I provided plenty of logical arguments. The reality is, your opinion on the current ufc is just different than mine and it’s not worth arguing about. I prefer weekly ufc fight cards, and in order to hold weekly fight cards, the ufc needs more fighters. Bottom line, I prefer the ufc the way it is now compared to how it used to be, it’s a preference, which is why I said we can agree to disagree. Not going to waste anymore of my time on this, you can keep complaining about the ufc and I’ll keep watching it.
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I re-read the thread and this is the entirety of your arguments:

So basically what you’re saying is that instead of only signing the best of the best, the ufc is now signing younger, unproven fighters and letting them build their careers inside the ufc rather than on the regional scene? Seems like a smart plan. This way the ufc can fill all their weekly cards and keep the sport healthy and growing.

As I clearly showed you they have 700 fighters yet only 200 fight 3 times a year and those are the cheapest guys. They could fill the cards without 200+ regional level guys, the fights would be way better, but the cost of the cards would go up cause they would have to pay better fighters more. Again, smart way to make money, terrible way to "keep the sport healthy and growing."

The ufc is literally doing almost weekly cards now, they need fighters and investing in young prospects is a smart business strategy. I’ve been watching mma for ages, I remember when the ufc barely had monthly ppvs. I much prefer seeing the ufc brand just about every weekend and I like seeing young prospects cut their teeth on fight nights. Back in the day the only way to get into the ufc was through tuf or being a serious prospect like BJ Penn. Now young fighters can get into the ufc much easier and it’s better for the sport as a whole.

They have 700 fighters that mostly fight 1-2 times a year (most want to fight 3 times). They have plenty of guys to fill the cards, but to lower their costs they need to fill the ranks with the cheapest talent possible. They could still have 42 events a year with a much higher level of fights quality, they would just have to pay for it, which would reduce their profits by a margin that over time they'd prefer to keep - even at 10% increase that's like $10-20 million a year, over a decade that's $100-$200 million that Ari would rather keep for him and his buddies.

Getting into the UFC shouldn't be "much easier" it's supposed to be the pinnacle of the sport - watering down the quality with shitty underpaid fighters is "better for the UFC's bottom-line" not "better for the sport."

I literally disagree with everything you just wrote. You’re definitely a smart poster, but we can just agree to disagree at this point. I prefer the ufc the way it is now more than how it used to be.

That's not an argument, it's an unfounded statement rooted in anecdotal opinion.

I'm glad you enjoy it more now, but that doesn't mean just because you do that it makes "better fights" or is "better for the sport" - that's the whole reason we are supposedly having a debate so you can ostensibly prove how this makes better fights or improves the sport.

You still haven't explained once why it's better to have a ton of average fighters fighting occasionally than a smaller amount of higher level fighters fighting frequently. You just make blanket statements that you assume should be taken at face value like "Now young fighters can get into the ufc much easier and it’s better for the sport as a whole." That's not an argument, that's a hypothesis that you've failed to back up.

Again I don't mean any of this as a personal dig - you do you Sherbro, enjoy whatever you want to enjoy.

But you seem incapable of understanding that this shit isn't binary - you can watch and enjoy the UFC while also criticizing it for where you see if failing. But you seem to have injected the UFC-shill narrative straight into your veins to the point where you think repeating UFC talking points is some kind of higher level argumentation (or that your personal taste dictates the general consensus of something).

Hope you kick the habit and realize you can both watch UFC and criticize it and that doesn't make you a hypocrite.

<TheWire1>
 
Less cards equals better product. The talent level worldwide is infinitely better than it was 20 years ago yet the PPV cards largely are more watered down then ever before somehow. The UFC should be the elite of the elite only.
 
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