Dana white has made more money from the UFC than every UFC fighter ever, combined!

[Charles Lee Ray]

All the money was from Fertittas. Even DW never said he paid a dime (he used to always praise Lorenzo for buying the UFC and dumping millions in the venture). Also, the 2 mil is just for the name and logo (and a broken octagon). Lorenzo dumped in 30+mil after that to revive and launch the UFC under zuffa.

DW is former boxercise instructor/hotel staff, he made all his wealth from zuffa, he didnt bring money into zuffa. big difference.

I understand the Fertittas had to put lots of money into the UFC to turn it into the cash machine it has become. Because of these loses they also tried to sell early on but were only offered 4 million.

Dana's original share still only cost 200,000 dollars. I'm unsure of where Dana got that money from. If you say he was gifted his 10% share, I'm not going to argue that. Rich people give out 200k presents sometimes. Sometimes they are loans. If you know the true story, I'm listening.

Dana got rich from his share of the UFC not his salary. Although, he probably gets paid more than anybody in MMA, he works hard for it. He's a scumbag and a douche but he made the Fertittas more money than anybody ever has. The Fertittas Station Casinos just finished bankruptcy in 2011 and bilked those the company owed for over 4 billion dollars.

Dana is an angel compared to the Fertittas.

 

[elzar]

Part of Dana's assets is the 10% stake he owns, it's not like he has that much sitting in a snow covered scrooge McDuck money bin.

yes, earnings and wealth are two different things.

 

[straight6]

I understand the Fertittas had to put lots of money into the UFC to turn it into the cash machine it has become. Because of these loses they also tried to sell early on but were only offered 4 million.

Dana's original share still only cost 200,000 dollars. I'm unsure of where Dana got that money from. If you say he was gifted his 10% share, I'm not going to argue that. Rich people give out 200k presents sometimes. Sometimes they are loans. If you know the true story, I'm listening.

Dana got rich from his share of the UFC not his salary. Although, he probably gets paid more than anybody in MMA, he works hard for it. He's a scumbag and a douche but he made the Fertittas more money than anybody ever has. The Fertittas Station Casinos just finished bankruptcy in 2011 and bilked those the company owed for over 4 billion dollars. QUOTE]

Its 9% actually. Also IF the 200k (if was from him) would not yield to 9% (or 10%) because the millions Lorenzo poured into the venture, which would of dilluted that 200k to nothing. Because one has to contribute to the investment in proportion in order to keep the % of ownership.

Also, for many corp, the president of company are given shares to the company for the role they do, commitment, loyalty, etc. Some CEO/president are even compensated in cash+ shares, or pure shares as bonus. Chances, are that 9% is given by the majority owner (Lorenzo). Even IF DW had 200k cash from previously working as a hotel staff, that would be a tiny fraction of ownership.

 

[mmaelitefan000]

dana has 0 effect on why we watch mma and yet he's getting all our money. something needs to be remedied. as a fan and student of mma i'm all 4 the fighters .

 

[Andretti]

Breaking news. The owner and president of a company makes more then employees.

lol! this.

 

[straight6]

lol! this.

except ufc fighters are NOT employees lol.

 

[Andretti]

except ufc fighters are NOT employees lol.

What are they then?

 

[straight6]

What are they then?

DW said himself that fighters are not employees of ufc/zuffa but independent contractors.

 

[whougonnacall]

that is what is called An Appeal to Emotion. It is a false and failing argument because it lacks logic.
You can literally double the low end guys pay every single day until the UFC is broke based on your argument of 'why not pay them more as that is where the future stars come from...attract talent'.
When you want to put aside the emotional argument you need to make the case that the UFC is not already drawing the best talent at the current pay levels and therefore why, when already paying more then any other MMA org, they should still pay even more.




Sorry you simply are unable to comprehend the argument.
Just because the worker pool is bigger for Mc'D's to draw from does not mean the UFC would have any issues replacing any undercard fighter at any time with no impact to the sale of their PPV's.
And an undercard being 'weak' is not a function of any singular undercard fighter. Thus no singular undercard fighter can make the case that they SPECIFICALLY deserve more pay when the ability for the UFC to replace them is no harder then for Mc'D's to replace a front line worker. The UFC has guys lining up to take that undercard spot and would not even have to make a call before they had all sorts of volunteers tweeting, asking for the spot.

- How is wanting a product i pay for to improve an appeal to emotion..
Its funny u bring up logic as u then move to the weakest of all the zuffahugger arguments the old ' u wanna increase it til the ufc is broke' .......where and when did ANYONE say that? ever?
The next part is as daft as me saying you have to prove the low pay hasnt put off some guys taking mma up full time....go ahead if u can

bottom line...... Are you suggesting making a mma career more attractive thus increasing talent pools would be a bad thing ?


-Iv never refused to go in a mcds because they changed servers ...i have however been given pause about buying sub par ppvs when some undercard fighters were pulled ........as has everyone

 

[whougonnacall]

dana has 0 effect on why we watch mma and yet he's getting all our money. something needs to be remedied. as a fan and student of mma i'm all 4 the fighters .

This ^

 

[That209]

This thread gave me a headache

 

[LegendaryBrolly]

When replying to you, you should expect back only what you put out. Your posts are horrendous drivel.

I know right. Who would ever think a government could step in to regulate a industry controlled by a single private company to increase competition. What a crazy world that would be.

 

[TheonGreyJoy**]

Really?

yes really. Proven so.

so in that case who the fk wants to become a MMA fighter then?

d'uh. Look at the lineup of people trying to get on to UFC undercards and who would love one or two UFC fights a year.

Are you really this dumb? Do you not hear what the new fighters say as soon as the UFC signs them?

lol how is UFC going to be "bigger than soccer or nfl" if cant attract athletic talents?

Ahhhhh. You are this dumb.

I always wonder when Dana spews that promoter bullshit who are the gullible idiots eating it up. Now I know. It is guys like you. LOL, you actually believe Dana. Too funny.

And when Bisping's or Ronda's trainers talk about them KO'ing opponents I bet you eat that shit up too. LMAO at you.

It wont benefit the sport in terms of LT growth and exposure.

The UFC already has been leading in growing the sport and building the salary base and benefits. No org has done more. And they will continue to do more.

As you go city to city and country to country and see more and more MMA gyms and guys earning a living in the related MMA industries no Org has contributed more to that happening then the UFC. that young fighters now can grow up and never have a job outside fighting and MMA is a result of the UFC more then any other org.

I truly hope for ur sake that ur at least affiliated with zuffa/dw..or otherwise it is just too sad...

LOL. Why? Because I don't irrationally hate Zuffa and therefore will put out the facts when drones repeat the same crap just based on their hate.

I want a second big org to emerge even if it divides the fighters short term and we do not see all the best matchups. I think that is best for MMA long term. I liked Pride more then the UFC. But I don't have irrational hate of Zuffa like so many here. and even if I did I do not let a dislike make me irrational.

If don't like Rousey at all. But because I don't like her does not mean I convince myself of stuff that is not true about her as a means to feed my hate. Some of us are beyond the 12 year old emotional reaction stuff where you throw truth and fact out the window simply because you do not like something.

 

[thechoice2]

DW said himself that fighters are not employees of ufc/zuffa but independent contractors.

UFC is making it dangerously close to making it seem like the fighters are employees and not independent contractors. I really wish someone would challenge the UFC's contract in court just to have a ruling on it.

 

[ben236]

All the money was from Fertittas. Even DW never said he paid a dime (he used to always praise Lorenzo for buying the UFC and pouring in millions into the venture). Also, the 2 mil is just for the name and logo (and a broken octagon). Lorenzo dumped in 30+mil after that to revive and launch the UFC under zuffa.

DW is former boxercise instructor/hotel staff, he made all his wealth from zuffa, he didnt bring money into zuffa. big difference.

Companies pay their president in shares all the time. In this case, he probably wasn't making much money in terms of salary at the start, so instead of paying Dana a bunch of money in salary (which is money down the pit if the company's value goes to 0), they probably opted to give him a stake in the company instead. That 10% share was just an incentive that the Fertitta's gave him so that he would work his ass off in order to help get that 200K share to be worth what it is today. That $200k share could have easily gone to 0.

The Fertitta's are businessmen, they didn't give him that 10% stake for the sake of charity.

 

[ThePatriot]

What you goofs online dont understand is that dana and the fertitas take 99% of the money to protect fighters

 

[TheonGreyJoy**]

- How is wanting a product i pay for to improve an appeal to emotion..
Its funny u bring up logic as u then move to the weakest of all the zuffahugger arguments the old ' u wanna increase it til the ufc is broke' .......where and when did ANYONE say that? ever?
The next part is as daft as me saying you have to prove the low pay hasnt put off some guys taking mma up full time....go ahead if u can

bottom line...... Are you suggesting making a mma career more attractive thus increasing talent pools would be a bad thing ?


-Iv never refused to go in a mcds because they changed servers ...i have however been given pause about buying sub par ppvs when some undercard fighters were pulled ........as has everyone

go read about logical fallacies and educate yourself and you will see what you are doing with the 'who wouldn't want fighters to make more...' type arguments.

'Wanting' and what makes sense from a business sustainability perspective are not always the same thing and you need to make the latter argument if you want to make a real point and not just appeal to emotion.

And no. You are factually wrong if you think switching undercard fighters impacts the overall PPV revenue that Zuffa makes in any calendar year. Which is what matters.

 

[TheonGreyJoy**]

news flash.. ufc fighters are not employees, but independent contractors (DW said this clearly). And in other pro sports, athletes are making millions for their work which are televised (nationally or internationall), sold for live gates (and/or ppvs).

news flash owners make more than their independent contractors. Identifying them properly as contractors does not change why people are scoffing at the idea that 'owners make more then their independently hired contractors'.

And which pro sports are you talking about as there is a huge range. I had a buddy who played Professional Lacrosse. He was a professional athlete and they paid $50/ game plus expenses that is it.

Do you know that Major League Soccer pays a fraction of what UEFA soccer pays? A fraction.

Do you understand why there is a range for pro athlete pay from the $50/game making lacrosse player to the top Soccer or NFL athletes to the top Boxers?

Show us you have some basic business sense and give us the reason why not all these professional athletes are not treated equally pay wise.

 

[mindturking]

news flash owners make more than their independent contractors. Identifying them properly as contractors does not change why people are scoffing at the idea that 'owners make more then their independently hired contractors'.

And which pro sports are you talking about as there is a huge range. I had a buddy who played Professional Lacrosse. He was a professional athlete and they paid $50/ game plus expenses that is it.

Do you know that Major League Soccer pays a fraction of what UEFA soccer pays? A fraction.

Do you understand why there is a range for pro athlete pay from the $50/game making lacrosse player to the top Soccer or NFL athletes to the top Boxers?

Show us you have some basic business sense and give us the reason why not all these professional athletes are not treated equally pay wise.

how dare you bring logic and facts to a sherdog thread...so let me save the next few zuffa hating neckbeards sometime....go back to zuffa you shill...i think im doing it right

 

[straight6]

news flash owners make more than their independent contractors. Identifying them properly as contractors does not change why people are scoffing at the idea that 'owners make more then their independently hired contractors'.

And which pro sports are you talking about as there is a huge range. I had a buddy who played Professional Lacrosse. He was a professional athlete and they paid $50/ game plus expenses that is it.

Do you know that Major League Soccer pays a fraction of what UEFA soccer pays? A fraction.

Do you understand why there is a range for pro athlete pay from the $50/game making lacrosse player to the top Soccer or NFL athletes to the top Boxers?

Show us you have some basic business sense and give us the reason why not all these professional athletes are not treated equally pay wise.

More than every athletes combined ever?! What planet ur from? This is only the case for UFC, NOT other sport, even including boxing, god dayum ur arguments are dumb. No other major sport could pay this bad and have athletes needing 2nd jobs.

This is HURTING the sport we love, but obviosuly, u hate the sport and the fighters but loves the promoter. Its ok, we understand, ur a zuffa shill..lol