Media Dana has repaired his relationship with Jones.

[kflo]

You would put money on Jon vs Ubereem? I guess the real question, like you were saying, is how good is his wrestling going to be and can he get the job done with it at HW. If he can get it back to where it was, maybe so. On the other hand, training wrestling day in and day out (so I've heard) breaks your body down the fastest and he's not 25 anymore. Which brings me to the final question which is, how much "supplemental help" is he going to have going into a HW bout. If he can roid out without getting caught, he could have great strength and cardio which could make a big difference.

isn't that true for any fighter? if they could roid out without getting caught they can have great strength and cardio that could make a difference?

 

[Jose Beehive]

One would think, if they were going to make the right choice in Francis vs Stipe 2, they would have by now... The longer it takes the more I think Jones is jumping the queue.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I say they "Michael Chandler" him

I initially took this to mean you thought the UFC should feed Jones to Chandler. Which could be awesome in its own way.

 

[Captain Herb]

isn't that true for any fighter? if they could roid out without getting caught they can have great strength and cardio that could make a difference?

Theoretically yes, I should have said he could have great strength and cardio again. I think that was a large part of his earlier success. I do think he went through a "clean phase" when he fought Santos and Reyes. If you look at the anemic output he was able to muster against them compared to the inhuman pace he put on Glover (when I believe he was in his roid-prime) you can easily see the difference.

 

[kflo]

Theoretically yes, I should have said he could have great strength and cardio again. I think that was a large part of his earlier success. I do think he went through a "clean phase" when he fought Santos and Reyes. If you look at the anemic output he was able to muster against them compared to the inhuman pace he put on Glover (when I believe he was in his roid-prime) you can easily see the difference.

he was the fresher fighter at the end in both fights. he's also alot older now than he was against glover and has been on top for a long time. and again, anyone "could" be using and passing tests.....

 

[Weidman]

Old man Ngannou will be 56 until they make a rematch with Stipe.

 

[Captain Herb]

Imagine coming to an MMA board to whine about morals?
And the woman was so pregnant she had to tell the cops she was pregnant, quote
“'I am pregnant and I feel like I am going to pass out. My arm is hurting all the way up and my husband is going to take me to the hospital.'
She likely wasn’t even showing, you can’t find any story that tells you how many months she was.
So I’ve never understood this notion like Jones aimed his car at a pregnant woman, I mean had he hit someone with cancer would that also be the headline?

He probably could have found that out when he rushed over to check on her, see if she needed first aid, and called 911

 

[weaselkenievil]

Ngannou has more than earned his shot.

Let Jones fight Overeem. Then we'll know where he's at.

I like this, I’d vote for that. Good call.

 

[Captain Herb]

he was the fresher fighter at the end in both fights. he's also alot older now than he was against glover and has been on top for a long time. and again, anyone "could" be using and passing tests.....

Believe what you want but Jon Jones went on an OJ level rampage against one of the top fighters in the division and made Glover look like a chump. Talent can take you so far but to get where Jon was at that point, you need a good dose of something else also in my humble opinion.

 

[kflo]

Believe what you want but Jon Jones went on an OJ level rampage against one of the top fighters in the division and made Glover look like a chump. Talent can take you so far but to get where Jon was at that point, you need a good dose of something else also in my humble opinion.

lots of fighters have made other top fighters look like chumps. he made everyone back then look bad.

 

[Captain Herb]

lots of fighters have made other top fighters look like chumps. he made everyone back then look bad.

Look, we know that you think Jones has never done anything wrong in his life, was framed when he was busted for steroids, was unfairly prosecuted for crimes he never committed. That's what you think and no-one is going to convince you otherwise.

 

[eighterumg5]

All the champs moving up have gotten instant title shots, why would Jones be the excepetion and beat a contender first?

Cuz he's a POS cheater?

 

[Reyes Lost]

Translation: “Jon and I couldn’t hate each either more. We had the worst conversation the other day.”

Remember that interview Dana had on one of thr cards where he said he had a meeting with brock and it went terrible LOL

I always wondered what happened in that meeting

 

[kflo]

Look, we know that you think Jones has never done anything wrong in his life, was framed when he was busted for steroids, was unfairly prosecuted for crimes he never committed. That's what you think and no-one is going to convince you otherwise.

stop always making shit up about me. it's fucking lame and a dick move.

 

[Captain Herb]

stop always making shit up about me. it's fucking lame and a dick move.

Oh, sorry. Except in every professional mishap and criminal escapade, you come down hard on the side of Jon Jones. Every time. So I guess you could excuse the confusion on your actual positions?

 

[kflo]

Oh, sorry. Except in every professional mishap and criminal escapade, you come down hard on the side of Jon Jones. Every time. So I guess you could excuse the confusion on your actual positions?

again, stop fuckin lying and making shit up about me. it's pathetic. every criminal escapade? wtf are you talking about? again, don't be a giant dick.

and every time, you put on your tinfoil hat and think a conspiracy is the reason for things you don't like.

 

[Captain Herb]

again, stop fuckin lying and making shit up about me. it's pathetic. every criminal escapade? wtf are you talking about? again, don't be a giant dick.

and every time, you put on your tinfoil hat and think a conspiracy is the reason for things you don't like.

What was your position when Jones got stripped and suspended for the hit and run? Were you for that or against it? I'll let you answer freely because I'm not going to go back into your post history because that would be a dick move.

 

[TerrorTimmy]

Nobody is saying Francis hasn't earned a TS. You're blinded by hatred of Jones if you don't think he's earned a TS at HW as well. It just comes down to who the UFC wants to get the shot first. Frank has already had a TS against Stipe once before and Jon vs Stipe most likely sells more PPV's since Jon is the bigger name and star.

So meanwhile Ngannou...sits around waiting? While Jones gets a free title shot after zero wins at HW and coming off some pretty controversial decisions?

Come on. You really think that seems like a good idea?

And you're calling me blind

 

[kflo]

What was your position when Jones got stripped and suspended for the hit and run? Were you for that or against it? I'll let you answer freely because I'm not going to go back into your post history because that would be a dick move.

I’d rather you quote me than make shit up. That’s the bigger dick move.

I wasn’t defending jones when he behaves as an irresponsible douche making bad decisions.

 

[Aurelian]

So meanwhile Ngannou...sits around waiting? While Jones gets a free title shot after zero wins at HW and coming off some pretty controversial decisions?

Come on. You really think that seems like a good idea?

And you're calling me blind

Both Jon and Francis have earned a HW TS. Why should Ngannou get it ahead of Jones when he's already lost to Stipe before? Beating Ngannou again does NOTHING for Stipe. Stipe beats him again the same way he beat him the first time. We haven't seen any improvements from Francis that suggest he beats Stipe. Being the first man to defeat Jones and getting a nice chunk of money off the huge PPV is probably what Stipe wants. Nobody said the shit is fair.

Convince me why Francis should be ahead of Bones. Let's see, loss to Stipe already? Check. Jon's a bigger star than Francis? Check. Stipe makes more money off the PPV with Jones than he does Frank and it does more for his legacy? Check. Anticipation for Jon's debut at HW for a decade now? Check.