D-Day anniversary

Has Trump tweeted yet, that he would have run on to that beach without a gun if he was there...
 
It makes me thankful for Antifa. They’re pretty much doing the exact same thing today.

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My grandpa enlisted when he was 15, parachuted in on dday with the canadian paratroop battalian, went through every campaign and came home without a scratch only to pass away 20 years later of heart disease,


Total legend

Absolute unit
 
R.I.P.

No disrespect though, but it's arguably the most overrated military operation of all time(along with the Battle of the Bulge).
 
loyalyolayal said:
Bigger fan of the Pacific theater?
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I hope there are more movies about the Pacific theater, I think its more dynamic, you have Carrier battles,Crazy Japanese!,and suicidal civies in Saipan!
 
One has to respect the sacrifices these guys made and how tough they were.

They're definitely more man than I am.
 
loyalyolayal said:
Bigger fan of the Pacific theater?
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Pacific campaign was more significant than the Western front of Europe. Nothing compares to the Eastern front though.

Gene Tunney said:
Let's see your argument.
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WW2 was mainly the Eastern front of Europe. D-Day( and the whole of Operation Overlord) was nothing compared to the major battles fought in that theatre. Especially considering the circumstances by that time, which was end of the war and the Nazis were pretty much defeated by then.

In the West Normandy is revered as it's one of the few major battles they participated in but it's miniscule in comparison to the fierce fighting in the Eastern front. Hell, it's not even the most significant battle of the Eastern front.


Of course this doesn't mean it shouldn't be celebrated, just it's importance is grossly overrated.
 
danny23 said:
Pacific campaign was more significant than the Western front of Europe. Nothing compares to the Eastern front though.




WW2 was mainly the Eastern front of Europe. D-Day( and the whole of Operation Overlord) was nothing compared to the major battles fought in that theatre. Especially considering the circumstances by that time, which was end of the war and the Nazis were pretty much defeated by then.

In the West Normandy is revered as it's one of the few major battles they participated in but it's miniscule in comparison to the fierce fighting in the Eastern front. Hell, it's not even the most significant battle of the Eastern front.


Of course this doesn't mean it shouldn't be celebrated, just it's importance is grossly overrated.
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You stated that D-Day was arguably the most overrated military operation of all time. We are thus not discussing front or theater comparisons. You specifically said military operation. Argue how D-Day was the most overrated military operation of all-time.
 
The balls on those kids that ventured into that beach facing endless rounds of mortar artillery and thousands of bullets flying everywhere with no cover and nowhere to run, willing to give up their young lives, determined to stop evil from spreading. Remarkable. An example to mankind everywhere.

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Gene Tunney said:
You stated that D-Day was arguably the most overrated military operation of all time. We are thus not discussing fronts or theater comparisons. You specifically said military operation. Argue how D-Day was the most overrated military operation of all-time.
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It's overrated by the weight of importance put on it for defeating Nazi Germany. It did help to shorten the war, slightly. In the West we pretend like it decisively changed the tide of the war, which's pure delusion. Especially after you take in account the time frame. Nazis were done by that time.

You have to make comparisons between different theatres because we're talking WW2 as a whole. And Normandy being put over those, at least in the West, is what makes it overrated.
Battles like Moscow, Stalingrad, Leningrad, Kursk, Berlin and many, many more on the Eastern front, consisted of the most savage and brutal fighting ever. In addition there were some of the worst war crimes ever committed. Those events played a far bigger role in defeating Nazi Germany. Now the Western front is child's play in comparison. Just look at the casualties and it's not even close.
 
30 orf th 32 tanks were lost in rough seas, the method of transport had never been tested in those conditions.

most of the men were overloaded with gear and most were horribly sea sick, poor bastards.

A nighttime assault would have made much more sense, the beaches became a shooting gallery for the enemy. The bunkers and pill boxes should have been bombed from the air as well in an attempt to neutralize them.

It was only through sheer tenacity and determination of the men on the ground that this thing was won.
 
danny23 said:
It's overrated by the weight of importance put on it for defeating Nazi Germany. It did help to shorten the war, slightly. In the West we pretend like it decisively changed the tide of the war, which's pure delusion. Especially after you take in account the time frame. Nazis were done by that time.

You have to make comparisons between different theatres because we're talking WW2 as a whole. And Normandy being put over those, at least in the West, is what makes it overrated.
Battles like Moscow, Stalingrad, Leningrad, Kursk, Berlin and many, many more on the Eastern front, consisted of the most savage and brutal fighting ever. In addition there were some of the worst war crimes ever committed. Those events played a far bigger role in defeating Nazi Germany. Now the Western front is child's play in comparison. Just look at the casualties and it's not even close.
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You are arguing that the fighting in the west was overrated. The coordinated military operation of D-Day was a strategic masterpiece, tactically executed by the collective military branches of multiple countries, including intelligence, civilian, and special force units.
 
Graverobber said:
30 orf th 32 tanks were lost in rough seas, the method of transport had never been tested in those conditions.

most of the men were overloaded with gear and most were horribly sea sick, poor bastards.

A nighttime assault would have made much more sense, the beaches became a shooting gallery for the enemy. The bunkers and pill boxes should have been bombed from the air as well in an attempt to neutralize them.

It was only through sheer tenacity and determination of the men on the ground that this thing was won.
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I wonder why Aircraft carriers where not utilized heavily in D-Day or where they? Like you said carrier based planes could have dive bomb the bunkers. And having them based in the sea nearby makes close air support more effective.

If I am not mistaken the USN have enough carriers by that time to send like two or three to Europe while still having enough to bash the Japanese in the pacific.
 
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