Castro? I think you need to update your knowledge on current Cuban leadership
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Castro? I think you need to update your knowledge on current Cuban leadership
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Do all the "Cubans" you know also think Raul is still in charge?
Be honest, you actually thought Fidel is still around. Lmao. You are one dumb motherfucker.
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Do all the "Cubans" you know also think Raul is still in charge?
Be honest, you actually thought Fidel is still around. Lmao. You are one dumb motherfucker.
I might be on thin ice here, not knowing any Cubans..
But, I am pretty sure the Cubans that left Cuba because of the regime would be happy about this.
Its a "no shit Sherlock.." of course the people that fled are happy about this.
What about the people that actually lives in Cuba.
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You mean the commie shitstains stubbornly held out for almost 70 years and ensured the general population remained in such poverty and misery that many would rather take their chances on homemade rafts into shark infested waters to escape it?
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They've never done anything to the US.
In 1959 they kicked out the American mob and legitimate companies but those are actions against those companies, not the American people or American government.
Since then, it's been a one-sided beatdown. From numerous attempts to murder Fidel Castro to a cruel trade embargo implemented to starve out its people and make them suffer.
A Brief History of the Enduring American Embargo against Cuba | Mises Institute
For more than 60 years, the US government has enforced a trade embargo against Cuba, ostensibly to force the communist government into collapse. The only thing
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Housing Russian nukes is the one thing I think of as against the USThey've never done anything to the US.
In 1959 they kicked out the American mob and legitimate companies but those are actions against those companies, not the American people or American government.
Since then, it's been a one-sided beatdown. From numerous attempts to murder Fidel Castro to a cruel trade embargo implemented to starve out its people and make them suffer.
A Brief History of the Enduring American Embargo against Cuba | Mises Institute
For more than 60 years, the US government has enforced a trade embargo against Cuba, ostensibly to force the communist government into collapse. The only thing
Yeah it's within their right as an independent nation, but it was definitely a bad thing to do to the US. But since then? They've just been a punching bag
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Well, they were compelled to by their ally, the USSR.
Why did they ally with the USSR in the first place? To fend off US attacks.
The Soviets didn't even know who the fuck Fidel was in the beginning lol.
According to later testimonies from Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, neither the Soviet Communist Party's Central Committee nor KGB intelligence had any idea who Castro was or what he was fighting for. Khrushchev advised them to consult Cuban communists, who reported that Castro was a representative of the "haute bourgeoisie" and working for the Central Intelligence Agency.[4]
Cuba–Soviet Union relations - Wikipedia
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This is nothing more than the USA kicking an impoverished country while they are down. Plain and simple.
Cubans are proud people, it's a shame the USA views them as third-worlds scum. Cuba hasn't posed a legitimate threat to the USA since ICBM's were invented.
And iirc the CiA was also trying to overthrow the government at/around the same time.
Cubans are proud people, it's a shame the USA views them as third-worlds scum. Cuba hasn't posed a legitimate threat to the USA since ICBM's were invented.
Pretty sure Russia moving ICBM's into Cuba was a direct response to the USA first deploying nukes in Turkey and Italy. With today's weaponry, picking on Cuba's just a straight-up dick move and petty shit.
And iirc the CiA was also trying to overthrow the government at/around the same time.
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People that actually live in Cuba fall into the two categories of party members and everyone else. The party is deeply unpopular, but due to migration and remittances, nothing ever happened until recently when governance started collapsing. Young people who actually have the motivation to do something (people who prior to globalization would be marching and demanding better governance) go to the US and the family that stays behind, often old people who aren’t doing much of anything get to live relatively comfortably with remittances.
A staggering percentage of Cubans (in Cuba) have family living in the US. No one in Cuba actually dislikes the US, except for party members, of course, and no one in Cuba or the Cuban immigrant community blames the US for Cuban living conditions.
It is really only in American leftist circles that we get the apologists. It never has any credibility either in Cuba or among Cuban immigrants, because they all know how rotten the system is.
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For me, the crazy thing about leftist apologist for regimes like Cuba and Iran is not even that they don’t really know about these countries, it’s that they really don’t care about them. These countries are just a tool to criticize the US.
Isn’t 60+ years of communist rule enough punishment for the Cuban people? Should we not try to pressure the Iranian mullahs who have oppressed their people in a more cruel and longer lasting manner than the Shah?
Isn’t 60+ years of communist rule enough punishment for the Cuban people? Should we not try to pressure the Iranian mullahs who have oppressed their people in a more cruel and longer lasting manner than the Shah?
Nikita was CCP General Secretary not PM.Well, they were compelled to by their ally, the USSR.
Why did they ally with the USSR in the first place? To fend off US attacks.
The Soviets didn't even know who the fuck Fidel was in the beginning lol.
According to later testimonies from Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, neither the Soviet Communist Party's Central Committee nor KGB intelligence had any idea who Castro was or what he was fighting for. Khrushchev advised them to consult Cuban communists, who reported that Castro was a representative of the "haute bourgeoisie" and working for the Central Intelligence Agency.[4]
Cuba–Soviet Union relations - Wikipedia
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Nikita had ordered to station thermonuclear weapons in East Germany and tactical nuclear weapons too and not only just this stuff.
Stationing had been done before cuban shit.
Still was bottlemate for western friends.
In real life. Not for plebs ofc.
btw Putin had told that Alaska is historical russian land.
Ofc for random U.S electorate will not make sense what will happen with some papuas tribe in ukraine or german papuas tribe. For a reason.
when y anks bottlemate in Putin will station obdirshnik in Chukotka will be different sense ofc.
Ofc for random U.S electorate will not make sense what will happen with some papuas tribe in ukraine or german papuas tribe. For a reason.
when y anks bottlemate in Putin will station obdirshnik in Chukotka will be different sense ofc.
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Anti-imperialist leftists are indeed cringe but the Trump admin had no coherent foreign policy so some skepticism about their intentions and plans is warranted. They certainly don't care about these countries either. At least neocons, for all their faults, had guiding principles and ideas.
And if we're talking oppression Egypt is hardly better than Iran and they get $1 billion in military aid from the US. In fact Trump once called Sisi his favorite dictator.
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I would say Egypt is a lot better than Iran, ESPECIALLY after they’ve just Tianamen’d their people recently.
I share your skepticism as I probably mentioned in the thread about Venezuelan intervention, but when it comes to Cuba and Iran, I’m in favor of maximum pressure minus direct military action.
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I never understand why the US didn't lift the embargo decades ago when the Cold War ended.
I mean, the Cuban regime is a disaster and set to fail, so why give them an excuse to put the blame of their misery in the american embargo and policies? If anything it galvanizes whatever nationalistic will still existing around the current regime, as Cubans are proud AF.
I mean, the Cuban regime is a disaster and set to fail, so why give them an excuse to put the blame of their misery in the american embargo and policies? If anything it galvanizes whatever nationalistic will still existing around the current regime, as Cubans are proud AF.
If you have a credible day after plan, sure. But that kind of planning tends to be absent.
That's also if we're charitable and set aside the ugly truth that sanctions almost always fail to produce positive outcomes and tend to increase the likelihood of war.
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I don't know that I'd agree necessarily, they're bad in different ways. The Islamic Republic is more isolated which comes with causes lots of unnecessary suffering and the recent crackdown by all accounts is as bad as crackdowns get.
But Iran still has a higher GDP per capita and by some accounts before last year's crackdown Egypt had twice as many political prisoners per capita, second only to Syria. And Sisi had his own Tianamen square moment with the Rabaa massacre just a few months after the 2013 coup.
Tbh if we had a competent and popular president I might even support direct military action against Cuba, just fucking wring their necks and get it over with. Iran is a different beast, Iraq but hard mode. Maximum pressure is fine but there's nowhere near the political will for regime change there.
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One of the many aspects of US foreign policy I never quite understood, is this position with Cuba.
How long ago was the Cuban missile crisis? or the situation with Elian Gonzalez.
Let bygones be bygones and lift these sanctions already.
How long ago was the Cuban missile crisis? or the situation with Elian Gonzalez.
Let bygones be bygones and lift these sanctions already.
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