Criteria for stopping fights & making MMA truly mainstream

senyster

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Hello gang,

I was just thinking about the lack of uniformity in criteria when it comes to stopping fights, and that in order to really become mainstream, fights should be stopped earlier.

Take these two examples, for instance. In my opinion, the Almeida stoppage was spot on, maybe even a tad late - I guess giving an opinion on the Magny stoppage is utterly pointless:

Ex. 1:
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Ex. 2:

In nearly every other sport, referees have specific guidelines to go by: e.g. in football (or soccer for you 'Muricans out there), any tackle from behind will result in a yellow card, in basketball, any form of contact when driving for the basket will result in a foul. Clearly in MMA, there is no established rule, seeing how soon and/or late fights are stopped, even by the same referees.

However, what I am insinuating is that, in order for MMA to evolve globally and to be seen as a SPORT, stopages need to come quicker: the Almeida-Jabouin bout was a FIGHT; while the Magny-Lombard bout was a MAULING (assault, beatdown, sadism, call it what you will).

Often, when fighters are hurt, referees will let them take beatings for another 10 to 15 seconds before stopping fights, with basically nothing really happening apart from the beaten fighters having their faces smashed even harder.

I feel that in order for MMA to rise in popularity, beatdowns such as Magny's over Lombard must be avoided at all cost. Stopping fights earlier instead of letting fighters get destroyed would improve the face of the sport, making it more appealing to the masses.

Heck, as far as I'm concerned, I would be fine even with boxing eight-counts and rope-escapes from submissions, similar to how Pancrase used to work back in the day.

I would love to hear your input on the matter.
 
In nearly every other sport, referees have specific guidelines to go by: e.g. in football (or soccer for you 'Muricans out there), any tackle from behind will result in a yellow card, in basketball, any form of contact when driving for the basket will result in a foul. Clearly in MMA, there is no established rule, seeing how soon and/or late fights are stopped, even by the same referees.

You're comparing two different things, how many times we see in soccer one guy inside his goal area holding the shirt of the opponent and nothing is sanctioned?
Of course if one guy make a tackle from behind it will be sanctioned, because is too obvious, it's like a knee to the head of a grounded opponent
 
I agree that many fights should be stopped sooner sometimes and it's better if all fights are stopped sooner rather than later than if a guy takes unecessary and dangerous damage.

I'm sure many Just Bleeders are going to give me shit for this, but do you really enjoy watching a guy get mauled on the ground without any chance of fighting back?

Honestly, if you're getting mauled on the ground with no possibility to tie your opponent up or change position/get offensive BJJ together, the fight should be stopped quick.

I've seen fights that just make me feel terrible for the guy on bottom, getting elbowed repeatedly in side mount or guard.

The Magny vs Lombard fight was a disgrace.
 
I want to continue to use this thread to vent my frustration regarding MMA, its judges and how it is actually not a sport.

At UFC 199, there were a couple of instances where I felt that the fight should be stopped early, however none more glaring than the Jessica v Jessica fight.

The aim of any certain sport is to ascertain which participant or athlete is better. If MMA was actually a sport, then the Penne vs Andrade fight ought to be stopped after round one (see enclosed stats for proof: http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/e06f96f3484ad74a).

However, the fight was not stopped and lasted at the same pace for additional 3 minutes. The outcome? Penne eating tens of additional shots when it was clearly evident that she was heavily outclassed and outmatched, and who was the better athlete that night.

Another thing was the Dariush-Vick fight. Why the hell does the referee let a guy already on chicken legs take additional blows to the head, resulting in serious SERIOUS trauma? IMHO the fight should be stopped the very second the fighter is unable to stand up straight (remember those gnarly leg/foot/ankle injuries, as well?). And live to fight another day. Brain trauma is not worth it.
 
I have a feeling the criteria changes if the card is on PPV or free TV.
 
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