Social Crisis' at Columbia University forces classes online, arrests at Yale College campuses are becoming battle grounds for Hamas and Israel

Do these idiots think they can’t be ID’d because they’re wearing a mask?



Here you go, Black privledge

Nothing will come of this for this young woman


I was told these people are simply concerned about Palestinians and not radical racists who hate America.

And as it says, she is one of the leaders of these protests. I have seen videos of her being arrested. There was another of them making demands on a stage, but can’t find it at the moment as there are so many posts of the one you posted

 
The avengers have come! Arrests and such things out there as apparently 1000+ protestors showed up to the Met Gala, breached barricades, etc. I hope AOC welcomed them with open arms.

Anyways these video made me laugh. If these were trump supporters, the main stream media would be calling to just mow them down with gun fire. They won’t tho, despite these freaks hating America



 
" Soros is retired durrr"


Pro-Palestinian protesters are backed by a surprising source: Biden’s biggest donors​

Some of the most outspoken groups against Biden and Israel get funding from foundations attached to some of the biggest names in Democratic circles.


The donors include some of the biggest names in Democratic circles: Soros, Rockefeller and Pritzker, according to a POLITICO analysis.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...s-columbia-university-funding-donors-00156135
 
You have to love the media coverage of the protests, and these pro-Palestinian protesters finally reaping what they sow. Somehow they try to turn the instigators, violators, and criminals into the victims. It's incredible. Most ironically, it's a microcosm reflecting the larger Palestine-Israel conflict inspiring it.
Protesters were arrested by the New York Police Department outside of the Met Gala.

The individuals were demonstrating in support of Palestine as the Israel-Hamas war continues to rage on in Gaza. The protesters called for a free Palestine while stars arrived to the Metropolitan Museum of Art to walk the red carpet in full glam. Videos and photos of the event showed protesters displaying the Palestinian flag as they peacefully marched on the Park Avenue sidewalk, spilling on to the street.

Additional videos showed some protestors removing barricades from the area as they approached 5th Avenue. While the pro-Palestine protestors were arrested, pro-Israel protesters demonstrators gathered nearby, too. However, witnesses claimed that the police left the counter-protestors untouched.
LOL, assuming this is true, why do you think that might be? Have the "counter-protesters" illegally destroyed property, invaded public areas without permits, occupied them despite being instructed by authorities to leave, erected bulwarks to prevent authorities from entering these spaces under their jurisdiction, trashed these spaces costing taxpayers or private entities huge sums to clean up their mess, inflicted graffiti on these areas, forced the cancellation of graduation ceremonies, assaulted peace officers, issued public threats and demands? Any of that? Did the counter-protesters remove the barricades the NYPD and/or museum set up without permission as you just observed in your own article?

For the life of me, I can't figure out why they aren't being handled the same by the police! It's a mystery! These po' wittle protesters must be victims of a zionist government-controlling conspiracy!!
 
You have to love the media coverage of the protests, and these pro-Palestinian protesters finally reaping what they sow. Somehow they try to turn the instigators, violators, and criminals into the victims. It's incredible. Most ironically, it's a microcosm reflecting the larger Palestine-Israel conflict inspiring it.

LOL, assuming this is true, why do you think that might be? Have the "counter-protesters" illegally destroyed property, invaded public areas without permits, occupied them despite being instructed by authorities to leave, erected bulwarks to prevent authorities from entering these spaces under their jurisdiction, trashed these spaces costing taxpayers or private entities huge sums to clean up their mess, inflicted graffiti on these areas, forced the cancellation of graduation ceremonies, assaulted peace officers, issued public threats and demands? Any of that? Did the counter-protesters remove the barricades the NYPD and/or museum set up without permission as you just observed in your own article?

For the life of me, I can't figure out why they aren't being handled the same by the police! It's a mystery! These po' wittle protesters must be victims of a zionist government-controlling conspiracy!!

Did the people at the Met do any of that?
 
Did the people at the Met do any of that?
Yes. Herpaderp.
-- Forcibly removed police barricades without permission
-- Set off smoke bombs in public spaces
-- Blocked traffic
-- Spray painted & defaced a public war memorial devoted to WW1 veterans
-- Vandalized a statue

And that's if we play stupid, as you apparently are, and pretend these weren't the same protesters who were just dispersed downtown at the universities. Unfortunately for you, the news tracked this! In fact, at least part of the larger group on the march assembled prior to their march at Hunter College. They had moved here from Columbia and NYU an hour earlier to reconvene. Furthermore, the group organizing this protest named the march, "Day Of Rage For Gaza: From The Encampments To The Streets.” It's the same people, you buffoon.

At least 27 were arrested for disorderly conduct. Not a single "counter-protester" has been arrested for the same crimes.
 
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Gaza protesters face speech restraints and legal consequences​


In the weeks since protests against Israel's war in the Gaza Strip began on U.S. college campuses, the number of people facing arrest has soared into the thousands.

Police from New York City to Los Angeles have been breaking up protest encampments, sometimes violently, and rounding up demonstrators.

In the United States, where the right to publicly criticize the government and the right to assemble to protest its policies are both enshrined in the Constitution, the dispersal of protests is a sensitive subject.

But while federal law guarantees freedom of speech, that freedom is not unfettered.

Choosing civil disobedience

Over the centuries, federal courts have established that some restrictions on speech, particularly related to the "time, place and manner" in which it is delivered, are legally permissible.

Dating to at least the Civil Rights Movement, members of protest movements in the U.S. have often knowingly and purposefully violated those restrictions, engaging in what is commonly known as civil disobedience.

In states across the country, protesters demonstrating against the war in Gaza have faced a variety of charges, including trespassing and unlawful assembly. Many of those arrested may face jail time, an appearance before a judge and possible legal sanctions. Student protesters may also face internal discipline from universities.

First Amendment binds government

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees Americans' right to free speech and assembly. It reads, "Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

However, it is important to note that the First Amendment only binds the federal and state governments, not private individuals and institutions.

"At a public university, the First Amendment will regulate what that institution can do with respect to protesters," Vera Eidelman, a staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, told VOA. By contrast, private universities are free to establish their own rules about permissible speech.

"The government can impose content neutral rules, meaning they can't be based on the message that is being expressed by the protesters that reasonably get at the time, place or manner of the protest," Eidelman said.

In practice, that often means limits on things such as using amplified speech late at night and camping out in public spaces.

"Rules like that, that are content neutral and are reasonable and are not aimed at suppressing a message, are generally available for the government to apply," she said.

Not all neutral

Civil liberties advocates have pointed out that some of the enforcement actions being taken against protests appear to be examples of the government acting to shut down particular kinds of speech, which is not permitted under the First Amendment.

In Texas, which has a state law that protects the right of students to protest on campus, Governor Greg Abbott nevertheless preemptively announced that pro-Palestinian protests at the University of Texas at Austin would not be allowed to take place and sent in law enforcement officers to prevent protesters from assembling.

Abbott said he was blocking the protest because it would be "antisemitic" — a claim that civil rights advocates said does not justify suppressing speech.

"We were very concerned about what we saw at UT Austin," Alex Morey, vice president for campus advocacy at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, told VOA.

"We took huge objection to that, because we said, 'This is not you breaking up civil disobedience or keeping the campus safe from violence. You're preempting peaceful protest, and you're saying that it's viewpoint based,'" she said.

Impact of arrests

For the thousands of protesters who have faced arrest over the past few weeks, the consequences can range widely.

In Austin, for example, most of the dozens of protesters taken into custody during Abbott's preemptive raid had their charges dropped almost immediately. They were quickly released from custody after prosecutors found little basis for pressing charges.

However, according to Trisha Trigilio, a senior staff attorney with the ACLU's Criminal Law Reform Project, the impact on other protesters could well be more severe.

In the U.S., police can legally hold a person in custody for 48 hours before they are brought before a judge and formally charged with illegal activity.

"The arrest can be quite violent, and the next few days after arrest when people are held in jail can also be really harmful," Trigilio told VOA. "Protesters could miss work and lose their jobs. There's a lot of students arrested, and they miss important deadlines leading up to finals and graduation. People were arrested towards the end of the month, and rent was due at the time that many people were jailed.

"You'll hear folks in law enforcement talk about being jailed for 'just a few days,' but it's actually really serious," Trigilio said. "These arrests can have really lasting effects."


Various charges

The kinds of charges protesters face vary significantly. Some are relatively minor, with the maximum penalty consisting of a fine. Others, however, face much more serious consequences, including for some of the students arrested at Columbia University, who broke into and occupied a campus building before being removed by police.

"We've seen people charged with felonies," Trigilio said. "Here in New York, people were charged with burglary. It's very common, when you have this kind of emotional back and forth between police and protesters, for police to charge people with resisting arrest or assaulting an officer. Your charges like assault and burglary can be elevated to felonies depending on the jurisdiction you're in."

In the U.S., conviction for a felony can be a serious burden. In some states, felons are deprived of the right to vote, and in many cases, a felony will complicate a person's employment prospects.

But even simply being charged with a felony can be damaging, with many jurisdictions requiring the accused to post cash bail before they are released from custody.

"A recent study showed that most Americans cannot afford a $400 emergency expense," Trigilio said. "And it's very common for cash bail to require payments that are greater than that in order for people to get out of jail."

https://www.voanews.com/a/gaza-protesters-face-speech-restraints-and-legal-consequences/7600983.html
 
Yes. Herpaderp.
-- Forcibly removed police barricades without permission
-- Set off smoke bombs in public spaces
-- Blocked traffic
-- Spray painted & defaced a public war memorial devoted to WW1 veterans
-- Vandalized a statue

And that's if we play stupid, as you apparently are, and pretend these weren't the same protesters who were just dispersed downtown at the universities. Unfortunately for you, the news tracked this! In fact, at least part of the larger group on the march assembled prior to their march at Hunter College. They had moved here from Columbia and NYU an hour earlier to reconvene. Furthermore, the group organizing this protest named the march, "Day Of Rage For Gaza: From The Encampments To The Streets.” It's the same people, you buffoon.

At least 27 were arrested for disorderly conduct. Not a single "counter-protester" has been arrested for the same crimes.

You seem really upset about being asked to substantiate your claim. Also making a bunch of assumptions that just aren't true. Maybe take a brisk walk.

Sounds like those people should be arrested. In comparison to 2020, this is pretty weak in terms of violence. The "Forcibly removed police barricades without permission" and "Set off smoke bombs in public spaces" also seems intentionally hyperbolic.
 
You seem really upset about being asked to substantiate your claim. Also making a bunch of assumptions that just aren't true. Maybe take a brisk walk.

Sounds like those people should be arrested. In comparison to 2020, this is pretty weak in terms of violence. The "Forcibly removed police barricades without permission" and "Set off smoke bombs in public spaces" also seems intentionally hyperbolic.
Concession accepted.
 
You don’t think most people just find it bad that Israel steals land and peoples homes, and subjugates and undermines native Palestinians?

I can disagree with Islam and find what Israel and some western countries do to be reprehensible… or does Islam negate all that and give the west the right to “spread freedom,” in your opinion?

It's so weird how binary thinkers insist everyone else must be equally binary.

Taking a stance on issues of unacceptable political overreach, unacceptable aggression, and the actions of a particular political party is taken as hatred of everything because you have to pick a side.

Defend everything without though. Attack everything else without thought.

Makes no sense.

Not everything Israel does is wrong, and it isn't all right, either. Crazy that this would be something grown adults need spelling out.
 
Concession accepted.

I guess keep fighting the good fight, comrade. I ask a genuine question, because your post didn't substantiate the claims, and you fly off at the handle and also feel the need to defend counter-protestors for some reason.
 
The protestors defaced a WW1 memorial and burned a American flag. These people hate America.
You make it seem like thousands of people committed these offenses… you realize this was likely a very tiny percentage of overall protesters, right?

But you go on to use the actions of a statistically minuscule population to claim that “these people” (aka the thousands or more who DIDNT commit such offenses) hate America?

It is intellectually lazy to take such a position, in my opinion. “These people hate America” and “Love it or leave it” type rhetoric is simple-minded and used to hand wave holding our government accountable.

I don’t hate America, I want our country to live up to its ideals, and part of that is NOT supporting Israel in their colonization and subjugation of Palestinians.
 
You make it seem like thousands of people committed these offenses… you realize this was likely a very tiny percentage of overall protesters, right?

But you go on to use the actions of a statistically minuscule population to claim that “these people” (aka the thousands or more who DIDNT commit such offenses) hate America?

It is intellectually lazy to take such a position, in my opinion. “These people hate America” and “Love it or leave it” type rhetoric is simple-minded and used to hand wave holding our government accountable.

I don’t hate America, I want our country to live up to its ideals, and part of that is NOT supporting Israel in their colonization and subjugation of Palestinians.
Idk, sounds like you’re making a 93% peaceful argument
 
Idk, sounds like you’re making a 93% peaceful argument
Yeah, weird how reality can be made to sound silly when you’re inundated with propaganda.

<Fedor23>

I mean, the numbers are what they are. Do you think the tiny minority doing shitty stuff should override the vast majority who are protesting reasonably?

P.S. I remember during the Canadian protests, this same tactic was used… “OMG, there are Nazi’s, see there was a Nazi flag and all the protesters are Nazis!! We’re going to freeze their bank accounts… what, are YOU a Nazi supporter?!”

It was BS then, and it’s BS now… obviously used to poison the well and stifle legitimate protests.
 
Yeah, weird how reality can be made to sound silly when you’re inundated with propaganda.

<Fedor23>

I mean, the numbers are what they are. Do you think the tiny minority doing shitty stuff should override the vast majority who are protesting reasonably?

P.S. I remember during the Canadian protests, this same tactic was used… “OMG, there are Nazi’s, see there was a Nazi flag and all the protesters are Nazis!! We’re going to freeze their bank accounts… what, are YOU a Nazi supporter?!”

It was BS then, and it’s BS now… obviously used to poison the well and stifle legitimate protests.
What I’m saying if you could substitute your argument word for word with the BLM Fentanyl Floyd riots
 
What I’m saying if you could substitute your argument word for word with the BLM Fentanyl Floyd riots
Yep, and the Canadian COVID protests, and the Occupy Wall Street protests, and the Tiki torch protests, and the Vietnam protests… what’s your point?

You can use specious reasoning to handwave ANY protest… that’s MY point.
 
Yes. Herpaderp.
-- Forcibly removed police barricades without permission
-- Set off smoke bombs in public spaces
-- Blocked traffic
-- Spray painted & defaced a public war memorial devoted to WW1 veterans
-- Vandalized a statue

And that's if we play stupid, as you apparently are, and pretend these weren't the same protesters who were just dispersed downtown at the universities. Unfortunately for you, the news tracked this! In fact, at least part of the larger group on the march assembled prior to their march at Hunter College. They had moved here from Columbia and NYU an hour earlier to reconvene. Furthermore, the group organizing this protest named the march, "Day Of Rage For Gaza: From The Encampments To The Streets.” It's the same people, you buffoon.

At least 27 were arrested for disorderly conduct. Not a single "counter-protester" has been arrested for the same crimes.
"March"

Generous.

The videos I saw ITT alone showed most in the group sprinting toward the police barricades being set up, specifically aiming for the gaps, and refusing to follow public safety officer orders and wrestling with the officers via barricade control to prevent them from performing their public safety duties.


I guess keep fighting the good fight, comrade. I ask a genuine question, because your post didn't substantiate the claims, and you fly off at the handle and also feel the need to defend counter-protestors for some reason.

See above; not sure if you have read the thread or watched any videos of the hundreds of sprinting protesters sprinting toward the officers who were just trying to set up the barricades, but I can't imagine how paychologically disturbing it would be for the officers trying to set up these metal barricades and wrestle for control of them whilst seeing a mass of hundreds of "marchers" (this, again, is a generous, candy-coated and ultimately untrue description) sprinting towards them in the dark.
 
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