Conspiracy is a Gates-way drug (New flip+guilty plea +++WOW+++): Investigation v. 14

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Trump will eventually take the gold from Nixon.

And look at Obama! Low energy! Sad!
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Im genuinely curious as to whether several of the convictions here will count. Manafort never made it into the administration proper, after all. (Though Flynn did, so Trump is already ahead of Obama and Carter in the shitty-administration-olympics, and tied with Clinton, Ford, and HW Bush.).
 
I love that you're somehow trying to score a point on this lol. He's probably trying to maneuver for a pardon (which would be a horrible political move by Trump), especially because even with an amazing plea deal, he's still likely to die in prison and lose every penny he has. That's hashtag "winning" if I ever dun sawr it.

Presidential pardon at worst. People like you, will care for about a week.

The end.
 
But he's gonna flip! Flip I tells ya!

“Notwithstanding that Rick Gates pled today, I continue to maintain my innocence,” Manafort said. “I had hoped and expected my business colleague would have had the strength to continue the battle to prove our innocence. For reasons yet to surface he chose to do otherwise.

“This does not alter my commitment to defend myself against the untrue piled-up charges contained in the indictments against me.”


...or not.




Not to mention the mountain of fake news they’ve swallowed recently.

Remember Tillerson was leaving?

Kelly?

Etc.







They lap up their propaganda like good little sheep.
 
Not to mention the mountain of fake news they’ve swallowed recently.

Remember Tillerson was leaving?

Kelly?

Etc.







They lap up their propaganda like good little sheep.

Don't forget about the porn stars. We can't ever forget about the porn stars!
 
Im genuinely curious as to whether several of the convictions here will count. Manafort never made it into the administration proper, after all. (Though Flynn did, so Trump is already ahead of Obama and Carter in the shitty-administration-olympics, and tied with Clinton, Ford, and HW Bush.).



I’m sorry, but Obama letting bankers hand pick his cabinet, after the financial crisis, qualifies them for the special administration Olympics.
 
What do you mean by "at worst"? Pardons are very unpopular in the short term, too.

I mean "at worst" this will all lead to Manafort being pardoned. Your golden...no wait, silver....no wait, bronze...no wait, participant goose, might be convicted of some lame charges, and be pardoned.

Whoa daddy Mueller, way to go!
 
I mean "at worst" this will all lead to Manafort being pardoned. Your golden...no wait, silver....no wait, bronze...no wait, participant goose, might be convicted of some lame charges, and be pardoned.

Whoa daddy Mueller, way to go!
In your mind, what would the justification for the pardon be? Mere affiliation with Trump?
 
Did you hear about that trip where Melania took a separate plane?

Trouble in the waters! Divorce is immanent!
Well, that white dress at the SOTU.... My heart broke a little bit. Little bit.
 
I mean "at worst" this will all lead to Manafort being pardoned. Your golden...no wait, silver....no wait, bronze...no wait, participant goose, might be convicted of some lame charges, and be pardoned.

Whoa daddy Mueller, way to go!

Lol, law and order candidate. Drain the swamp.
 
In your mind, what would the justification for the pardon be? Mere affiliation with Trump?

Sure.

That's even if he's convicted, though. For all we know, Mueller is attempting to put pressure on Manafort, with charges that Manafort's lawyers think are ridiculous. And they may very well be. Mueller has a bunch of liars. That's it. Who knows what it all actually means?
 
Gates was Manafort's right-hand man for a decade, was privy to most, if not all, of Manafort's activities during the campaign and stayed in the Trump orbit after Manafort's exit. Manafort has pleaded not guilty to all charges against him.

In Friday's hearing, Gates told a federal judge that he understood his potential sentence depended on his cooperation with prosecutors on the charges: conspiracy to commit to defraud the United States and making false statements.

Gates, bearded and wearing a blue suit, tie and cuff links, listened to the judge read the offenses he is agreeing to plead guilty to and the possibility of being sentenced to up to 57 to 71 months in prison. He said "Yes, your honor" repeatedly as Judge Amy Berman Jackson read the court documents.

Thursday, prosecutors described a "scheme" in which the two longtime business partners allegedly laundered $30 million, failed to pay taxes for almost 10 years and used real estate they owned to fraudulently secure more than $20 million in loans.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/gates-guilty-plea-mueller-russia/index.html

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57 to 71 months


All this hysteria and the dude is looking at an extended stay at a shitty country club(with a bitch ass sentence like that no way he does any actual hard time). What in the fuck
 
So, when is the point of no return? You can expose some bombshells and prove your worth, but we all know how irrational Trump is. Does Mueller eventually release something that dares Trump to fire him?
Hate to burst your bubble, but Trump isn't going down for anything. At least nothing related to Manafort or Gates.

He's just going to continue being a stupid piece of shit and lousy president before tucking tail 2020.
 
Hate to burst your bubble, but Trump isn't going down for anything. At least nothing related to Manafort or Gates.

He's just going to continue being a stupid piece of shit and lousy president before tucking tail 2020.

I mean, if you think you've seen enough to make that call. I haven't.
 
57 to 71 months


All this hysteria and the dude is looking at an extended stay at a shitty country club(with a bitch ass sentence like that no way he does any actual hard time). What in the fuck
He's ratting his brains out to get that 5-7. That means the Manafort charges are bigly. He's not going to rat for 15-20. That's a stiff plea.
 
Sure.

That's even if he's convicted, though. For all we know, Mueller is attempting to put pressure on Manafort, with charges that Manafort's lawyers think are ridiculous. And they may very well be. Mueller has a bunch of liars. That's it. Who knows what it all actually means?
Liars = Extreme money laundering and tax evasion, covering up political conspiracy and work as a foreign agent.

Again, pardons are unpopular and Trump already pushed it with the Arizona sheriff. People aren't going to gloss over this one, if it happens. He's dead to rights and I would be happy to bet a lot of money on a conviction if he continues to maintain innocence.
 
He's ratting his brains out to get that 5-7. That means the Manafort charges are bigly. He's not going to rat for 15-20. That's a stiff plea.
My hope is that Manafort has mountains of dirt on highly influential people that he's willing to release if he gets hit hard.
 
He's ratting his brains out to get that 5-7. That means the Manafort charges are bigly. He's not going to rat for 15-20. That's a stiff plea.

Serve maybe a year with good behavior.

You've been watching too much "First 48", where bums are facing life in fuck your ass prison. This is nothing.
 
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