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No, because if these guys don't pick up some good wins against each other first then you and the rest of the Anderson hate squad will just call them cans once Silva destroys them.
No, because if these guys don't pick up some good wins against each other first then you and the rest of the Anderson hate squad will just call them cans once Silva destroys them.
i know you don't like the guy, but there aren't really a ton new contenders at ww. right now i'd say there's hendricks, and the other guys are too green.
Silva is already the best MW of all time. If his career was over in his next fight would you rather see Boetsch up there or Weidman/Lombard. God forbid them putting Bisping in the ring. The purpose of waiting and having the contenders knock each other off the radar makes it harder for people to call the #1 contender a joke fight. When Silva wins and generally does so with easy, people spout off at the mouth of how the contender never deserved the shot.
That argument is harder to sustain when the #1 contender beat the other options. I can see why you'd rather have Silva just fight them all. Ideally I love to him fight each contender at MW and have time for a few super fights. Silva is old and very unpredictable his career could go several more years. Or he could retire after his last 2 or 3 fights on his contract. Since I can't claim to know what he plans on doing, I'd rather see the biggest fights available to end on a big high note.
There aren't really a ton of new contenders? no shit, because guys like kampmann, ellenberger, and hendricks have pretty much wiped out everybody in the division. He really should be writing all of them 'thank you' letters for doing his job for him.
i'm sure anderson and his camp really give a sh't what shertards say. as long as he's getting paid the way he usually gets paid, i can't see how much of a difference it really makes.
the only reason it seems like he wasn't interested in fighting weidman is because that's a more dangerous fight for him than most of the other top mw's could potentially be.
And thats just silly. Havent we had these Silva is ducking Weidman conversations enough, did we really need another thread?
huh? kampmann beat story, who was on a little bit of a skid after his loss to brennenman, alves, who'd already lost to gsp, and ellenberger, who had a decent run since losing to condit, but showed he had cardio issues vs sanchez in a three round fight. he was also his own worst enemy, losing to shields and sanchez.
ellenberger lost to condit, beat a bunch of non-top ten guys, beat shields (same guy st pierre beat before) looked good vs sanchez for a couple of rounds, before gassing late and picking up a decision, then got tko'd by kampmann. his fight vs hieron was a snoozefest, but i don't think anyone had hieron as a serious contender.
two of hendricks's biggest wins were vs two guys georges already beat (koscheck twice and fitch in dominant fashion). his win over kampmann was also impressive. the rest weren't anywhere near title contention.
why are people so eager to see the current crop of contenders eliminate each other from title contention, particularly the ones silva hasn't fought yet?
people keep saying guys like belcher, lombard, weidman, boetsch, and bisping should all fight each other in order to determine a "true" #1 contender.
that's a pile of horse-sh't. since silva already "cleaned out the division" in the past, wouldn't it make more sense to have him fight this new batch of challengers than sitting out for most of the year?
these guys should be fighting gatekeepers, staying active, waiting for their chance to get a title shot instead of knocking each other off and giving silva's camp the chance to say that they're not on an impressive enough streak to face him (like that ever mattered before).
i'd love to see silva v weidman. that would be one of the few times silva actually fights a guy with a very well rounded game. silva would be the odds on favorite, but weidman has a lot of weapons which would make it a dangerous fight for silva (size, reach, awesome wrestling, stifling top control, world-renowned grappling, creative striking).
And thats just silly. Havent we had these Silva is ducking Weidman conversations enough, did we really need another thread?
He turns any thread he can into an Anti Silva thread
I can't figure out if its funny or sad
you're missing the point.
Kampmann beat story, alves, ellenberger (in that order), still no title shot because gsp was holding the belt hostage.
Ellenberger was on a 6 fight win streak in the ufc with wins over shields and sanchez, still no title shot because gsp was holding the belt hostage.
Hendricks is on a 5 fight win streak in the ufc with wins over fitch, koscheck, and kampmann, still no title shot because gsp chose to fight diaz instead.
now where are all the contenders??
so you mean top 10 fighters should fight scrubs instead of fighting each other... interesting.
I honestly wouldn't call Weidman a creative striker based on one standing elbow. None of his fights suggest that he could stand a full 2 minute with Silva engaging him. I'll give you all those other skills. You can't call out saying that Silva didn't want to take this fight because you think he'd thought he might lose. Then complain Weidman isn't getting a title shot. Weidman could have been set up for his shot right now if he didn't duck Vitor. People can cry "why would he duck Vitor for a tougher fight in Silva"?
Clearly he factored in that he might lose as well, tried wait for a title shot he was never promised. Had he fought top 10 Vitor and beat him impressively, this wouldn't be a problem right now. Several people called him out and might have been good choices to fight. He was going to fight Boestch, who despite his resume have quality names looks to be the weakest of Bisping, Belfort, Belcher. Weidman tried to talk himself into that title shot instead of fighting one more time against a big name guy. Now he is re-injured and can't fight any of these guys.
While he is still down injured people like Bisping, Belfort, Belcher, Lombard, Boestch, and Phillopou can keep putting in work. If Weidman lucks out maybe the guys that could end ahead of him with a good performance lose instead. Or turns up injured and he steps in for a title fight. Wouldn't be an issue if he'd of stepped up a did his work.
huh? i said that silva should try and fight as many of the current crop of contenders at mw. someone else mentioned weidman specifically. if you guys have some insecurity about your man crush, deal with it. what's pathetic is that you claim he's the best fighter in the world, yet you constantly argue that he shouldn't fight anyone other than st pierre or bisping :redface:
MMA fans have a hard on for the tournament format. I'd rather see them line up to be merked by the spider one at a time.
Lot of assumptions in this post
Never said Silva should only fight GSP or Bisping lol
I'd watch him fight anyone they put in front of him, I just find it fucking sad how much time you spend posting about Silva.
This is todays weak attempt at an Anderson Silva hate thread tsktsk. Someone get me Kneeinthenutz
Dont feed the troll
and letting the WW contenders eliminate each other while gsp gets to hold onto his precious belt is any different??
who's the troll?
I think people are concerned that nobody seems to have really presented himself as a clear number one contender, except maybe Weidman.
Middleweight is a relatively weak division; there's a reason so few fighters from there are considered for top P4P.