Consent vs Non verbal non consent = not guilty of rape

[Grunk]

Bit of a pickle this one - two trials and 5 years worth of law ending in nothing for anyone.

"During his first trial, Mr Lazarus testified he did not swear or raise his voice at Ms Mullins and he honestly believed that she was consenting.

In the second trial, Judge Robyn Tupman found that Mr Lazarus had no reasonable basis for believing Ms Mullins had not consented, but that Ms Mullins, in her own mind, had not consented.

"Whether or not she consented is but one matter. Whether or not the accused knew that she was not consenting is another matter," she said."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-...lls-for-review-of-sexual-consent-laws/9734988

 

[Greoric]

What a cluster fuck.

 

[SBJJ]

I'm a very very VERY confused

 

[RerouteToRemain]

So she didn't say no at any point(unless I missed it in the article) but believed his "get on your hands & knees" was a demand rather than a request? Then went through with it because she was scared?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I don't see the issue. She never said no and he never coerced her. She may have genuinely been scared, but it reads more like a case of regret after the fact

Ms Mullins and Mr Lazarus met on the dancefloor at Soho nightclub and she said minutes later he asked her to go to a "VIP area" but instead took her outside to a dark alleyway.

Ms Mullins said he told her to get on her hands and knees in the gravel and had anal sex with her.

"You know, there wasn't any request - it was a demand ... From someone I had never met before. In a dark alleyway. Alone. And I was scared," she said.
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[aus101]

Fuck that Luke Lazarous guy. Was a couple years below me at school, always thought he was a smarmy creep.

 

[HereticBD]

Regret =/= Rape

 

[ToxicShocker]

I can see why he hit it from behind

 

[bushman505]

Damn...anal too huh??? Dudes a savage, that’s pretty bad ass.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Come on machine sex robots. I plan on stopping contact with all females the day my I-pussy arrives from Amazon.

If pussy was a stock, its owners would have already threw themselves off buildings.

Some may say that is stupid, but by even talking to a female you risk rape charges. Ever been seduced? I have. What happens if she regrets that later?

Females are now a 20 year prison sentence waiting to happen. I would get a better reward for robbing a bank, and the same punishment when she changed her mind later.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Come on machine sex robots. I plan on stopping contact with all females the day my I-pussy arrives from Amazon.

If pussy was a stock, its owners would have already threw themselves off buildings.

Some may say that is stupid, but by even talking to a female you risk rape charges. Ever been seduced? I have. What happens if she regrets that later?

Females are now a 20 year prison sentence waiting to happen. I would get a better reward for robbing a bank, and the same punishment when she changed her mind later.

You realize that you wouldn't have to worry about that if you don't hook up with random sloots?

 

[Greoric]

You realize that you wouldn't have to worry about that if you don't hook up with random sloots?

Get your shit together. Strange is the best kind of magical hole.

 

[Greoric]

Come on machine sex robots. I plan on stopping contact with all females the day my I-pussy arrives from Amazon.

If pussy was a stock, its owners would have already threw themselves off buildings.

Some may say that is stupid, but by even talking to a female you risk rape charges. Ever been seduced? I have. What happens if she regrets that later?

Females are now a 20 year prison sentence waiting to happen. I would get a better reward for robbing a bank, and the same punishment when she changed her mind later.

Yeah, I can see where you're going with that, but the seduction is just as good imo.

 

[Greoric]

Damn...anal too huh??? Dudes a savage, that’s pretty bad ass.

It's even better. Dude took her ass-cherry on her hands and knees... on the gravel.... in an alley way.... outside her father's business.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Get your shit together. Strange is the best kind of magical hole.

It's also the way you catch STDs and rape accusations. Just sayin..

 

[Greoric]

It's also the way you catch STDs and rape accusations. Just sayin..

Fortune favors the bold.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

She wandered into a dark alley with a guy who described it as a VIP area?
Sorry, but how was he meant to know she had no interest?

 

[bushman505]

It's even better. Dude took her ass-cherry on her hands and knees... on the gravel.... in an alley way.... outside her father's business.

What a little slut.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

Man really don't want to jump on the victim shaming wagon if she was actually raped but damn, she comes off a little fake in that video.

Did she also say she was a virgin? Yeesh.

 

[Roaming East]

"No-one dreams of their first time being in an alleyway with someone whose name they can't even remember. No-one wants that," she told the program.

Uhh, you went to a nightclub. Those things exist SPECIFICALLY for hooking up with dudes and girls you dont want to give a shit about. The only way she can claim that defense is if her intent was to go to a nightclub and act flirty for fun and score free drinks from horny dudes. Problem is she wasnt experienced enough to play that game and ended up taking Mr. Johnson and the Juice Crew for a ride.