Conor v Islam

Never gonna happen. Doubt Islam would be up for taking a dive no matter how much money canor and Uncle Dana throw at him.ppp
 
Conor vs over a billion Islam people.
 
Zero chance Conor fights a grappler unless ite Khabib. Theres no point.
 
Dionysian said:
He then took him down and won by RNC.

I get what you’re doing though. Get the guy who is pointing out Cerrone’s words before the fight to talk about another fight instead, and equivocate two unlike things to try and make people think the obvious shit you don’t want to argue (Cerrone’s interview) really is like that nonsensical distraction you’d prefer people to focus on (DC). Keep at it I guess...
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Genius. Dc submitted him in the second round after rumble again initiated the grappling. What would you have said if dc got knocked out in the first round? Would you have pieced together his words with the knockout and had an aha moment?

and why don’t you stop pussying around and just say what you want to about cerrone. Instead of talking about a fuckin interview. His confessional. Derp.
 
kflo said:
Genius. Dc submitted him in the second round after rumble again initiated the grappling. What would you have said if dc got knocked out in the first round? Would you have pieced together his words with the knockout and had an aha moment?

and why don’t you stop pussying around and just say what you want to about cerrone. Instead of talking about a fuckin interview. His confessional. Derp.
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It isn’t complex. Rumble had either the worst fight IQ in human history or didn’t want to be there. I’ll take a leap and guess, when two minutes after losing he said he wasn’t into fighting and wanted to retire, that he wasn’t crazy about being there.

If DC got knocked out, and Rumble then said “boy I want to be here” then my Sherlock skills inform me that I might make the opposite conclusion. Brilliant point I guess?

I’m not pussying around anything. Cerrone said he’d be happy to lose and said he wouldn’t grapple and then did it. Have you ever competed in anything in life? Was there any competition for this PR assignment? That’s the only way I can guess how you’re baffled by this is that you’ve never competed. A guy that says he is ready to lose isn’t to be taken seriously as a competitor. I don’t know if he threw the fight or just didn’t want to be there and didn’t give a shit. Point is, it doesn’t even matter. Either way, it’s the same result: the win means jack shit. Any win against any guy that promises not to attack his opponent’s weakness and that they wouldn’t mind losing means jack shit.

THAT was my whole point. My brilliant Sherlock skills allowed me to deduce that Cowboy didn’t mind losing when he openly said he didn’t mind losing prior to the fight starting. My whole point was that fight, which meant less than NOTHING, was used to use to justify a TS. If you can do that with a guy like Cerrone they sure as hell can push a TS with a win over Islam, who won’t promise to only strike and won’t say he’d be happy to lose. That was my point... Islam vs Conor is any easy sell for a TS if Conor won. Easy sell for UFC, for Ali apparently, and for Conor.
 
Dionysian said:
It isn’t complex. Rumble had either the worst fight IQ in human history or didn’t want to be there. I’ll take a leap and guess, when two minutes after losing he said he wasn’t into fighting and wanted to retire, that he wasn’t crazy about being there.

If DC got knocked out, and Rumble then said “boy I want to be here” then my Sherlock skills inform me that I might make the opposite conclusion. Brilliant point I guess?

I’m not pussying around anything. Cerrone said he’d be happy to lose and said he wouldn’t grapple and then did it. Have you ever competed in anything in life? Was there any competition for this PR assignment? That’s the only way I can guess how you’re baffled by this is that you’ve never competed. A guy that says he is ready to lose isn’t to be taken seriously as a competitor. I don’t know if he threw the fight or just didn’t want to be there and didn’t give a shit. Point is, it doesn’t even matter. Either way, it’s the same result: the win means jack shit. Any win against any guy that promises not to attack his opponent’s weakness and that they wouldn’t mind losing means jack shit.

THAT was my whole point. My brilliant Sherlock skills allowed me to deduce that Cowboy didn’t mind losing when he openly said he didn’t mind losing prior to the fight starting. My whole point was that fight, which meant less than NOTHING, was used to use to justify a TS. If you can do that with a guy like Cerrone they sure as hell can push a TS with a win over Islam, who won’t promise to only strike and won’t say he’d be happy to lose. That was my point... Islam vs Conor is any easy sell for a TS if Conor won. Easy sell for UFC, for Ali apparently, and for Conor.
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Wtf are you even talking about. Cowboy never said he wasn’t trying to win. He said he was looking forward to the challenge.

The idea that anyone who says anything before competition that needs to be parsed means jack shit is ridiculous. You believe what you want. Dc said he would only stand when his advantage was on the ground. But you don’t give a fuck about that.

Anyone who competes knows full well that losing is a possibility. Verbalizing that fact somehow to you means something.

He was there to try to win. Everything he said before the fight is consistent with wanting to win. But you’ll find your own tinfoil hat reasons.

Why the fuck would he not want to win????? You wont answer with anything rational.
 
Conor will only un retire when the fans are back in the stands
 
derwum said:
Conor KOs Islam.
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Unfortunately, I think so too. I think he knocks him out. I think islam will fall in his trap. Islam hasn't dominated anyone in the grappling despite him being a good grappler. I just see conor being able to handle his grappling. If islam dominates a top 10 guy, my answer may change.
 
ViD said:
You’re showing how Islam overcame a punch landed clean on the chin and proceeded to win in dominant fashion ?
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Davi Ramos isn't a good striker. Conor's more elite than ramos. He took that and it wasn't even set up. Conor can set up better traps and islam will fall for it imo.I'd like islam to win but my gut says conor would win against him.
 
Dionysian said:
It is all about confidence

Ali hates Conor and never wants him to get a TS... but he's offering him to get a TS with one LW win... because he is betting on Islam that hard to make him confident that Conor won't win.

Conor wants nothing more than a TS at LW... and he's getting offered a TS with a single LW win over a guy who isn't ranked and would build confidence against Khabib... but he isn't because he is betting against himself (vs Islam) that hard, confident that he wouldn't win.

Speaks volumes really. So yeah he will likely stick to twitter. Looks like Ali and Conor finally agree on something.


Obviously Conor doesn't agree with you, otherwise he'd be jumping at the chance to fight an overrated chump for a TS
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Dana wouldnt make the fight. It wouldnt be up to Conor
 
Basically he’s begging for two red panty nights
 
The Half Blood Prince said:
Yeah you're getting a bit deluded here

First of Ali doesn't ultimately decide who fights who, that's the UFC's job.
Conor vs Islam would not be a 'huge' draw like you claim. Islam does not have enough of a star power and is ranked #11 while Conor is ranked #4. There are far bigger names and bigger fights out there for Conor that would make far more sense. Think of it like this, who has he beat that warrants a Conor fight.

Although I do agree that Islam is a bad match up for Conor stylistically, but I think a motivated Conor can definitely be very dangerous and do some damage
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If Conor is such a draw (which he is) he doesnt need to depend on an opponent to sell.

That said, Islam is widely known even if it's due to Khabib. UFC would have an easy time promoting it especially will all the history including Islam's involvement in the brawl.

Conor won't accept because of the risk of losing.

Correct Ali cant dictate who fights who but here he's the messenger. Khabib dictates who he fights and he's given his condition to Conor thru Ali.

Conor's choice.
 
Ackmed said:
If Conor is such a draw (which he is) he doesnt need to depend on an opponent to sell.

That said, Islam is widely known even if it's due to Khabib. UFC would have an easy time promoting it especially will all the history including Islam's involvement in the brawl.

Conor won't accept because of the risk of losing.

Correct Ali cant dictate who fights who but here he's the messenger. Khabib dictates who he fights and he's given his condition to Conor thru Ali.

Conor's choice.
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Why do people angle it that way? It could be as simple as Conor doesn't accept the fight, because he doesn't have to. Dana white said he'll give him the title shot after beating Cowboy in another class, so he's content with chilling. Some guys just don't want to climb the mountain again. He definitely doesn't. I think he can beat islam. I don't think its a pride thing. I think he made the business decision in his head. I was told I'd get a title shot so I'll wait. He didn't want to fight gaethje. Gaethje got the IC strap, now he's begging gaethje.

I do agree with you though. Outside of gaethje-conor or Khabib/conor, the money fight to make is islam-conor. It will sell. Paul felder-conor doesn't sell shit. Neither does CDF or those other low rank top 10 guys
 
Peli said:
Why do people angle it that way? It could be as simple as Conor doesn't accept the fight, because he doesn't have to. Dana white said he'll give him the title shot after beating Cowboy in another class, so he's content with chilling. Some guys just don't want to climb the mountain again. He definitely doesn't. I think he can beat islam. I don't think its a pride thing. I think he made the business decision in his head. I was told I'd get a title shot so I'll wait. He didn't want to fight gaethje. Gaethje got the IC strap, now he's begging gaethje.
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If he doesn't fight Islam then his only choice for a TS is after Khabib retires.

And he might be fine with that, especially because Khabib only has 1-3 fights left.
 
I thought this meant Conor vs the whole religion of Islam, i know he’s good but not that good!
 
Ackmed said:
If he doesn't fight Islam then his only choice for a TS is after Khabib retires.

And he might be fine with that, especially because Khabib only has 1-3 fights left.
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depending how much of khabib's influence is on the global market of the ufc, if dana white is forced to choose khabib vs conor, for 3 fights. I think he's going to to choose conor. But doesn't defend. So will he win the title and just retire again? assuming conor is hungry to get more accolades on his resume, white would choose conor. but that's a big IF.

Frankly, I think khabib is better for business and the growth of MMA long term. He's a better ambassador for the sport. Holds seminars, talks , meets with muslim dignitaries from various countries and still goes out and and fight. Conor is all about his whiskey. He doesn't grow the sport at all right now. HIs popularity did help, but it hit its peak few years ago.
 
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