Conor McGregor took harder challenges by moving up to 170 and 155 than defending belt

[PD4838]

I don't think so.

McGregor got a good decision in the rematch in my opinion. (He took rounds 1, 2 and 4)

I don't think anyone believes McGregor would ever win a five round fight with Aldo at that time. If McGregor doesn't put him away early he's fucked.

I think you meant 1, 2 and 3. He got his arse handed to him Rd 4 and 5, clearly won Rd 1 and 2 and 3 was a toss up. He faded ever since RD 3. I was even there live was rooting for Diaz but think under scoring system McGregor won 3 rds to 2. He barely edged Round 3, but when fight went into championship rounds it wasnt even close.

 

[Joshua8531]

I'm just saying him fighting Diaz at 170 was harder than any fight that would have been available to him at 145. Do you think Aldo at 145 would be a tougher challenge than fighting Diaz at 170?

Nate Diaz at 170 would be more of a challenge than Aldo at 145.

Diaz isn't a better fighter than Aldo, but size and chin matters a lot. A rematch is probably warranted, but the question isn't should McGregor have given Aldo a rematch, it's whether or not he took a harder fight. The Diaz fight was certainly harder, and evidenced by the fact he lost.

Your pushing bullshit anyone who was watching at the time, ain’t buying. Diaz was not a 170’r. You see the fight vs Macdonald? That silly blind argument is out.

Conor and Dana were looking for an easy fight, Diaz laying on the beach 10 days prior, came in and smoked mcmouth.

 

[MarcusAuerelius]

Since I've been seeing so many various scattered posts of people giving crap to Conor for not defending the 145 belt, I'm gonna lay out why I don't think that matters, and McGregor actually chose a harder path for himself.

McGregor beat a lot of really good people on his way to the belt:
Aldo, Mendes, Poirier, and Holloway.

If Conor stuck around at 145, he'd probably rematch Aldo, he'd face Frankie Edgar, Max Holloway again, and assuming he's gonna stick long-term he'd face some of the new generation like Ortega, and volkanovski.

I think Conor easily beats Aldo in a rematch (he's longer, bigger, and Aldo's chin was pretty bad after he lost to Mcgregor that first time). I think he beats Max at 145 but it might be interesting, probably beats Frankie the same way he beats Mendez.

Maybe he'd get a challenge out of volkanovski but that wouldn't be until much later and after many title defenses.

I think Conor took a much harder path than sticking around at 145 by moving up to 170 and fighting Diaz twice, and then 155 to fight Alvarez (people say Alvarez's style was made for him, but no one at 145 was going to pose a bigger challenge). Followed by Khabib and Poirier twice, his move to 170 and 155 presented him with much harder fights (excluding Cerrone but that was basically a tune-up fight).

The easier and safer road for Conor would have been to stick around at 145 and defend his belt.

Never repeat successful experiment !! Don't get me wrong, Conor's run was incredible but he never took unnecessary and uncalculated risks, if anything he wisely picked fights/opponents that bore the least of risk/would take the least of his aura of invincibility if he was defeated:
Diaz loss? 3 times his size
Khabib loss? Who has not lost to Khabib
Maywheather loss? Its punching, not real fighting
The guy is a marketing genius and all his risks are extremely calculated.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Conor only fought at 170 because RDA pulled out, and then Diaz came in short notice.

Who the fuck knows why he fought Cerrone at 170.

And he moved up in weight most likely because he could not make 145 easily anymore.

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[Substance Abuse]

I agree, he should've stayed at 145, he would've done a lot better

That being said his career is his career, you can't give him credit because he hypothetically would've done better at his proper weight class

After he committed to going to 155, he never could have made 145 again. The IV ban didn't help either.

 

[JJCc]

Your pushing bullshit anyone who was watching at the time, ain’t buying. Diaz was not a 170’r. You see the fight vs Macdonald? That silly blind argument is out.

Conor and Dana were looking for an easy fight, Diaz laying on the beach 10 days prior, came in and smoked mcmouth.

Wasn't so easy if Conor lost now was it? Obviously it was harder.

 

[YungSithLxrd]

Since I've been seeing so many various scattered posts of people giving crap to Conor for not defending the 145 belt, I'm gonna lay out why I don't think that matters, and McGregor actually chose a harder path for himself.

McGregor beat a lot of really good people on his way to the belt:
Aldo, Mendes, Poirier, and Holloway.

If Conor stuck around at 145, he'd probably rematch Aldo, he'd face Frankie Edgar, Max Holloway again, and assuming he's gonna stick long-term he'd face some of the new generation like Ortega, and volkanovski.

I think Conor easily beats Aldo in a rematch (he's longer, bigger, and Aldo's chin was pretty bad after he lost to Mcgregor that first time). I think he beats Max at 145 but it might be interesting, probably beats Frankie the same way he beats Mendez.

Maybe he'd get a challenge out of volkanovski but that wouldn't be until much later and after many title defenses.

I think Conor took a much harder path than sticking around at 145 by moving up to 170 and fighting Diaz twice, and then 155 to fight Alvarez (people say Alvarez's style was made for him, but no one at 145 was going to pose a bigger challenge). Followed by Khabib and Poirier twice, his move to 170 and 155 presented him with much harder fights (excluding Cerrone but that was basically a tune-up fight).

The easier and safer road for Conor would have been to stick around at 145 and defend his belt.

How was his chin bad if that's the only time he's been koed like like that? Even after the Yan beating he wasn't unconscious? That's 4 Ls to strikes in his whole career with the Max fights but only Conor had him unconscious.

 

[Sweater of AV]

I'm just saying him fighting Diaz at 170 was harder than any fight that would have been available to him at 145. Do you think Aldo at 145 would be a tougher challenge than fighting Diaz at 170?

Both are difficult fights for very different reasons but Conor and Nate were effectively the same weight class.

It's 25 lbs on a 5'9" frame when 6'2" dues fight at WW?

He was fighting someone in the same weight class. As for height, very few of the top guys are close to 6'2". Don't throw out nonsense.

 

[JJCc]

I don't think so.

McGregor got a good decision in the rematch in my opinion. (He took rounds 1, 2 and 4)

I don't think anyone believes McGregor would ever win a five round fight with Aldo at that time. If McGregor doesn't put him away early he's fucked.

Aldo gasses about as hard as McGregor. Plus, pretty good chance McGregor puts Aldo out at 145.

I mean, do you think if Aldo goes to 170 to fight Diaz that it would be competitive? Diaz would smoke him, he's way too small.

 

[aali14]

Diaz and Cerrone are hardly legit "welterweights"

 

[vivi]

Considering he looked like he was killing himself to make 145 and that weight cut wasn’t going to get any easier, I’d say he ducked his biggest challenge - continuing cutting to 145. Understandable

 

[JJCc]

How was his chin bad if that's the only time he's been koed like like that? Even after the Yan beating he wasn't unconscious? That's 4 Ls to strikes in his whole career with the Max fights but only Conor had him unconscious.

Aldo didn't get TKOed at all until Conor rocked him.

He's done an excellent job of cherry picking

one big rouge

Who did Conor avoid?

 

[JJCc]

Considering he looked like he was killing himself to make 145 and that weight cut wasn’t going to get any easier, I’d say he ducked his biggest challenge - continuing cutting to 145. Understandable

He wasn't killing himself if he was retaining power, and he never once missed weight.

 

[JJCc]

Diaz and Cerrone are hardly legit "welterweights"

They aren't great welterweights, but they aren't small for the division. What do you mean by legit?

 

[YungSithLxrd]

Aldo didn't get TKOed at all until Conor rocked him.


Who did Conor avoid?

I feel you, but his chin durability was still pretty good, remember Max didn't tko him til he gassed and still took almost 2 min of GNP to stop him. I think his cardio was more of the issue than his chin during those 2, and the Yan fight was kinda similar

 

[NoSmilez]

Wasn’t the original plan for him to smoke Nate then somehow parlay it all for a woodley title shot?

 

[Shishio]

how the fuck are you people able to communicate with his balls in your mouth and your hands on his shaft

 

[jeff7b9]

List of WWs Conor fought:







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[jeff7b9]

Wasn’t the original plan for him to smoke Nate then somehow parlay it all for a woodley title shot?

At the time the plan would (if you are correct) have been to challenge Robbie Lawler.

Woodley took the belt off him at UFC 201

Conor fought Nate the first time at UFC 196.

 

[NoSmilez]

At the time the plan would (if you are correct) have been to challenge Robbie Lawler.

Woodley took the belt off him at UFC 201

Conor fought Nate the first time at UFC 196.

I can't remember too well since so much stuff happened. That was the champ champ era. Everyone was trying to scalp a belt in another division. Mcgregor was never aggressive towards Lawler though. He was publicly confrontational with Woodley at the back of a few weighins.