Conor McGregor Is Not The "Real Champ"

[Prince Nephilim]

This " true champ " " real champ " argument is absurd.

If you hold the title, you are a champ and, If you don't, you are not a champ. It seems, this simple concept is quite difficult for few shertards here.

That's your opinion and I have my own.

You want to go by that..I don't give a monkey's ass

Real champions in my world as well as other fighters believe that a true champion can and should defend his title to SOLIDIFY their claim as champion.

Of course the person who has the belt is the "champion" but as far as you can take it back, it's always been said that a true champion can defend his belt

Belts have been won without a fighter even fighting specifically for it. Champions are made when the belt is defended

 

[Mike]

 

[Mike]

I'll take the guy on the 10 fight, 5 year+ win streak that's cleaned out most of the division already. Over the guy that went 1-1 with Nate Diaz and sits on the title, after being gifted a shot.

 

[Siesta]

A more appropriate label is 'Inactive Champ.' The Inactive Champ and the Interim Champ both have a case for the title, so it makes no sense to call either one "the real champ."

The Interim Champ, ideally, should only exist when the current champ becomes inactive, and thus, the more appropriate label for a current champ who becomes inactive is "Inactive champ."

Just saying.

You're right, he's the Real Champ Champ. Good catch, son.

 

[AimedWithV]

If Rose can beat JJ again (which would be badass) or defend the sw belt then she can solidify this claim as an actual champion.

Matt Hughes and many others have all said....You aren't a real champion until you defend your belt.

Its not even unreasonable. Just have to deal with it.

No, no one has to "deal with it", because it's simply incorrect, even if Matt Hughes claims so.
Rose is a champion just like Matt Hughes was, like it or nor.

Conor is the standard in the UFC. If I am going to make an argument, and a Conor example applies, he is the fighter I am going to use. It is really simple.

It has nothing to do with hate. When we have arguments about fighter pay, I congratulate Conor McGregor for pushing the envelope, again, because he is the standard in that context.

I have trace amounts of hate. I try as best as I can to base my opinions on what is known. I am willing to reevaluate my opinion, when presented with knew knowledge. My opinions are fluid.

The "standard" is still an example, as you mention it yourself.
Now you CLAIM to make a rule out of it. An example NEVER proves the rule.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

No, no one has to "deal with it", because it's simply incorrect, even if Matt Hughes claims so.
Rose is a champion just like Matt Hughes was, like it or nor.



The "standard" is still an example, as you mention it yourself.
Now you CLAIM to make a rule out of it. An example NEVER proves the rule.

Whatever helps you to sleep at night.

Hold on to your opinion, I'm not looking to convert you. I don't really give a fuck, it's how I feel about a belt

 

[AimedWithV]

Sure. Whatever helps you to sleep at night.

Hold on to your opinion, I'm not looking to convert you. I don't really give a fuck, it's how I feel about a belt

Ah, so this is how you FEEL! OK, continue to feel whatever it feels like to you.

Just don't claim that it's a fact, and don't tell others to "Deal with it". No one wants to deal with your emotions.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Ah, so this is how you FEEL! OK, continue to feel whatever it feels like to you.

Just don't claim that it's a fact, and don't tell others to "Deal with it". No one wants to deal with your emotions.

I can claim whatever the fuck I want and It is a FACT in fighters circles.

Your not a fighter and you look up to Conor as your father figure because you most likely don't have one.

So don't get in your feelings about my opinion. You came to comment about my comment

 

[AimedWithV]

I can claim whatever the fuck I want and It is a FACT in fighters circles.

Your not a fighter and you look up to Conor as your father figure because you most likely don't have one.

A fact in fighters circles?
Dude, the only way you put yourself in a fighters' circle is when you surround yourself with action figures in your basement.

And what was that father insult? Are you twelve year old? I thought you already hit puberty. My mistake, sorry.

 

[Mixedfights]

Not factually correct no matter how upset you are
Sorry

Exactly...and he already signed a deal or he would have been stripped.

Conor hopes Khabib wins so he can get that big Russia event. He gives zero fucks and thinks he will starch the fool. I guarantee it.

 

[Franc Mittelo]

This " true champ " " real champ " argument is absurd.

If you hold the title, you are a champ and, If you don't, you are not a champ. It seems, this simple concept is quite difficult for few shertards here.

Exactly.

No, no one has to "deal with it", because it's simply incorrect, even if Matt Hughes claims so.
Rose is a champion just like Matt Hughes was, like it or nor.



The "standard" is still an example, as you mention it yourself.
Now you CLAIM to make a rule out of it. An example NEVER proves the rule.

I am not making a rule. I am saying the correct term for a champion who can't defend the title is "Inactive Champion" and not "Real Champion." Why? (1) Because he/she is inactive (2) Because the Interim Champ is also a "Real Champion."

That's all. People can disagree. If they do, I would appreciate a reasoned counter-argument.

 

[Franc Mittelo]

This " true champ " " real champ " argument is absurd.

If you hold the title, you are a champ and, If you don't, you are not a champ. It seems, this simple concept is quite difficult for few shertards here.

Exactly.

You're right, he's the Real Champ Champ. Good catch, son.

More like "Inactive Champ." He was stripped of the 145 title.

 

[IamStryker]

Fair enough. The UFC by their own admission have already stated this.

However, we still find ourselves in situations where are there 2 champions in the division. My argument is that people in the MMA media, like Danny Segura, need to stop with the "real champ" labels. He sounds like the typical Sherdogger whenever I hear say that. LOL

The more appropriate labels are Inactive Champ vs Interim Champ.

An "inactive" champ who doesn't fight because he doesn't want to is not a real champ. Fake belt.

 

[NRG]

MMA media saying silly things? Tell me the news.

 

[dragonclaw]

A more appropriate label is 'Inactive Champ.' The Inactive Champ and the Interim Champ both have a case for the title, so it makes no sense to call either one "the real champ."

The Interim Champ, ideally, should only exist when the current champ becomes inactive, and thus, the more appropriate label for a current champ who becomes inactive is "Inactive champ."

Just saying.

Why you got to knock on the guy for?

He's the double champ. Never lost his belts.

And don't give me that BS that he's not active, that's not the problem. The problem is that there's nobody out there that offers even the slightest challenge to him. I mean look at who's at the top now, "supposedly" the best fighters to challenge McGregor.

When a challenge presents itself that is worthy of McGregor's attention, that is when he will fight. That day has not come yet.

 

[Zefram Cochrane]

The meaningfulness of that title can be debated (hence all the opinions about who's the best LW and the significance of winning a title fight without working your way to the top), but it's ironically the real belt until he gets stripped/vacates/loses. If he never fought again and the UFC never stripped him, it would still be the real belt in the most impoverished but still superficially correct sense of the word. Simply because, sadly enough, the belts are for the UFC to do as they please (and they've showed they're totally willing to abuse that discretionary power).

 

[Koro_11]

Is this place still making threads about that guy? Wtf?