Connor would not beat a world class boxer in above the waist KB

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I'm red stripe in Connors kicking style - ITF TKD (3 and a half years of training). Spotting a beginner is fairly easy. 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ell me how a beginner at kicking beats a boxer in american rules kickboxing?? Even a good kicker can be beaten and he's not even good.

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[dc207]

So somebody related to you was a national champ for a country that hasn't existed for 25 years and that makes you a better kicker than a current multiple weight MMA world champion?

Damn.

 

[mirror45]

No shit

 

[Chain Saw]

Finally some support.

They have good accuracy and good flexibility but no power. Even Joe Rogan has better kicks than Conor.

Joe Rogan has better kicks than Conor. But Joe Rogan actually has better kicks than a lot of UFC fighters.

Kicking in MMA is weaksauce in general.

 

[spacetime]

They have good accuracy and good flexibility but no power.

Joe Rogan has better kicks than Conor. But Joe Rogan actually has better kicks than a lot of UFC fighters.

Kicking in MMA is weaksauce in general.

Rogan has ten times the power in his spinning sidekick than any UFC guy. BUT he looked awful sparring nowdays. I don't think his movement is up for task anymore.

 

[Chain Saw]

Rogan has ten times the power in his spinning back kick than any UFC guy. BUT he looked awful sparring nowdays. I don't think his movement is up for task anymore.

As far as pure technique goes, Rogan is better at damn near every kick than UFC guys. I'm pretty sure even in his old age, he'd fuck most of them up in a taekwondo match.

There's a few MMA fighters who really know how to kick:
Barboza
Cerrone
Pettis
Machida
Wonderboy
Rockhold
CroCop

Conor's kicks are weaksauce compared to those guys.

 

[TriangleMonkey]

"Above the waist kickboxing" (North American Rules) is sooo old nobodies done that stuff since the days of Chuck Norris and Bill Wallace.

Thats when "point fighter" had success with the full-contact rules. Add the International rules with leg kicks and all the TKD guys disappear

 

[dc207]

Kick out the knees?? Low kicks are prohibited in American Kickboxing rules. Where do you mean conor can kick him?

Which is just one reason why your thread was dumb. Hey, let's talk about an obscure and inconsequential set of rules. That sounds like fun. Not.

 

[spacetime]

Which is just one reason why your thread was dumb. Hey, let's talk about an obscure and inconsequential set of rules. That sounds like fun. Not.

How is it obscure? It's straight up kickboxing rules. If you allow low kicks its K1 or Muay Thai. Muay Thai is not Kickboxing.

 

[dc207]

How is it obscure? It's straight up kickboxing rules. If you allow low kicks its K1 or Muay Thai. Muay Thai is not Kickboxing.

It's just a better fighting system, superior. That's all.
"You can kick me here but not in the legs." Just as dumb and antiquated as purely boxing.

 

[spacetime]

It's just a better fighting system, superior. That's all.
"You can kick me here but not in the legs." Just as dumb and antiquated as purely boxing.

The argument was that Connor would beat Floyd if only he could kick.. even if it's just sidekicks above the waist and roundhouses. I don't subscribe to that view.

 

[Grijswaarde]

How is it obscure? It's straight up kickboxing rules. If you allow low kicks its K1 or Muay Thai. Muay Thai is not Kickboxing.

Kickboxing without low kicks is non existent here...

But yeah we are all noobs in Holland since we kick with bended legs

 

[spacetime]

Add the International rules with leg kicks and all the TKD guys disappear

I've not seen one TKD dude go down from low kicks like Boxers.. They can take them for enough rounds to win (if they're the better fighter)

 

[spacetime]

Kickboxing without low kicks is non existent here...

What rules do you implement then? K1 with limited clinch??

 

[Grijswaarde]

What rules do you implement then? K1 with limited clinch??

No kickboxing. In the Netherlands.

It is Muay Thai without clinch, knees and elbows. Not some watered down bullshit version.

 

[spacetime]

It is Muay Thai without clinch, knees and elbows. Not some watered down bullshit version.

You seem terminologically confused. Do you learn Muay Thai roundhouses or traditional chambered TKD/Karate style?

 

[Grijswaarde]

You seem terminologically confused. Do you learn Muay Thai roundhouses or traditional chambered TKD/Karate style?

You can do whatever the fuck you want.

So funny you have no idea how kickboxing in Europe works. But also expected. Starting to like you by now...

 

[spacetime]

You are describing the rule set known as Dutch Kickboxing, which is seperate from "Kickboxing" referring to above the waist boxing and kicking originating in the US.

 

[Paradigm]

I've not seen one TKD dude go down from low kicks like Boxers.. They can take them for enough rounds to win (if they're the better fighter)

That's because TKD guys don't generally fight in the less restrictive MT ruleset...and not certainly against elite Thais.

Name one TKD guy that even got near the pinnacle of Lumpinee or Raja stadiums...where the young Thais in their prime fight.

Kwonkicker winning a fight in Thailand isn't that.

 

[Grijswaarde]

You are describing the rule set known as Dutch Kickboxing, which is seperate from "Kickboxing" referring to above the waist boxing and kicking originating in the US.

And again you show you know nothing about kickboxing. Kickboxing originated in Japan in the '60, that is the original kickboxing including low kicks. That is also the version of kickboxing used in Europe and the rest of Asia.

American kickboxing originated in the '70 and did not allow low kicks. That is not kickboxing, that is some watered down version.

I love how much you don't know about the sport, it is almost cute. Please stick to your TKD and keep thinking it is effective.