News Colorado (CSAC) to adopt new MMA scoring format

[Tweak896]

No one will solve judging until AI. Guarantee there is going to be robbery threads in Colorado after this.

 

[Nathan LaMontagne]

https://combatsportslaw.com/2023/06/08/major-mma-judging-reform-coming-june-17/


Personally I think this is great and a really good solution to a hard problem. It doesn’t fundamentally alter the sport but adds much needed accountability.

do you guys think other commissions will adopt this?

Side note: didn’t this commission also allow grounded knees for the ONE show a while ago as well? Colorado doing big things

The irony, the only forward thinking place is the place where it all started (UFC 1)

Bravo.

 

[Istryker]

We need to remove the human element.

 

[Kenny Powerth]

I think it’s a great idea…

BUT

We need all new judges anyway, the judges we have now are too stupid to understand the most basic scorecard and set of rules. Introducing new things to our already incompetent judges would just make things a nightmare.

#ALLnewjudges

 

[blaseblase]

What we really need is mandatory review and training on any controversial decisions. Bad judges should be held accountable. Right now they are not and we just accept it.

 

[avenue94]

I think it’s a great idea…

BUT

We need all new judges anyway, the judges we have now are too stupid to understand the most basic scorecard and set of rules. Introducing new things to our already incompetent judges would just make things a nightmare.

#ALLnewjudges

That won't happen until judges are better paid. You might as well be asking for better service at a job paying minimum wage.

 

[linvillegorge]

It creates more transparency in the justification of the scorecards but I'm honestly not sure it would lead to different scoring. I mean, these judges are basically infallible in the eyes of the commission. How many have stopped getting work because they're consistently terrible?

Ultimately I think lopsided round scores need to be more common. 10-8s should abound. There needs to be some 10-7s. The 10 point must system was created around boxing which has a lot more rounds so individual round scores are less consequential in the outcome of the fight. With only three rounds to score there needs to be more weight put on dominant rounds. In a fight where one fighter probably edged out two pretty evenly contested rounds but the other fighter very clearly won the other round, who should win? I'd argue the fighter who very clearly won one round but with today's scoring the other fighter is probably more likely to get the nod.

 

[Kenny Powerth]

That won't happen until judges are better paid. You might as well be asking for better service at a job paying minimum wage.

You have a valid point

 

[HP_Nut]

Some judges probably got appointed strictly because of who they knew, even if they knew nothing about how to properly judge a MMA fight. I am convinced of this

 

[blackheart]

Great news

I wish we could do away with the boxing scoring system altogether and invent a new way of scoring fights but this is an attractive solution in the short to mid term since it doesn't fundamentally alter the sport's scoring making it more likely to be adopted, while also providing accountability and judges rationale. We will actually get a peek inside their heads and have an idea of what they were thinking. Something we have absolutely ZERO of right now.

 

[Daelh]

I like it but is it really that hard to add two more judges?

Ofc. That cost money. Imagine Americans paying for other than the bare minimum.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Definitely a start. I’m so tired of hearing the commentators and people scoring fights saying X won the round because they had control. Control is the absolute last thing you consider. The fight would have to be completely even everywhere before you even consider it.

And yes, control includes holding someone down. That’s why there’s a separate category for effective grappling. Holding someone on the cage or on the ground doesn’t count unless the other fighter doesn’t even try to fight back.

At least this forced judges to show how they are scoring.

 

[markys00]

Who cares? The judges do whatever the fuck they want anyway

 

[markys00]

Ofc. That cost money. Imagine Americans paying for other than the bare minimum.

3 is the perfect number, dumbass

 

[markys00]

No one will solve judging until AI. Guarantee there is going to be robbery threads in Colorado after this.

I'll do one better. I guarantee robbery threads after every event

 

[Kryptt]

Reminds me of something...

 

[Neck&Neck]

2 man enter
Only 1 man exits
There can only be one winner

easy

 

[west42]

Live odds from all the gambling sites, winner is the one with the better odds at the end. It's the only way to be sure.

Muted?!?
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

 

[markg171]

How about we just have open scoring like every other sport?

The only reason we don't is because of corruption so that miraculously impossible scores just happen to occur.

 

[GroundNPouter]

The judges who award rounds to fighters who clearly lost them, will simply identify reasoning that is equally bullshit.

Does no one see this? This doesn't change anything. Saying a fighter won a round that they clearly lost is saying you think they won one or all of those metrics anyway.