Colby is the next PPV star...(Check the numbers)

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

 

[RockyLockridge]

This press conference, as a BACKUP fighter, is at 823K+ and counting. Will easily reach millions.

Colby, as a BACKUP fighter, is blowing away numbers from the actual fighters.

I'm calling it now...Colby is a guaranteed 1+ million PPV buys fighter from now on. That will make Colby the second biggest star in this sport behind Conor.

Colby is big business now and you might as well accept that he's getting the title shot for multiple reasons. He can actually fight, too! And he can beat Leon.

Belal can't beat Leon, IMO, so I have no idea why people are losing their shit!

I don't think Colby will ship a million probably 700k+

 

[RockyLockridge]

Crap... not worth talking about

colby vs masvidal was the best selling ppv of 2022

If only he fought more than once every year or two while cherry-picking questionably relevant fighters to prove he can "actually fight".

Oh, and something that should go without saying: someone being "big business" (according to you) is in no way reason to accept the death of meritocratic matchmaking.

I agree with you but look at where we are at. burns begged for the masvidal fight. Usman begged for the masvidal fight. Edwards is begging for the masvidal fight.

We can question the relevence of beating masvidal in 2023, but it's the hot new thing when you give a guy like that 2 title fights in a row his name value gets inflated. Even champions want to fight him.

Some say that burns vs masvidal winner should get the title shot but should they? Should masvidal who would be 1-3 in his last 4 get a shot win a win over burns? Should burns get a shot for beating masvidal? if burns gets the shot for being masvidal, Why not colby? he beat him more recently.

This is the major issue.

And as far as "meritocractic matchmaking" goes, Fans are fickle and don't care. People on this very website were cool with glover vs jiri 2 only because they like glover. No other reason was it merited but by my measure a majority of people were okay with it. now they are not okay with this and it's not because of merit, it's because of bias.

Just to make things clear, If you're not okay with Colby getting a shot at leon with a win over masvidal we should also protest....

- Stipe vs jones
- Glover vs jiri 2
- Masvidal vs Usman 1 (it was booked and fell through before it was made a replacement)
- Masvidal vs usman 2
- Leon vs Usman 1 (nate diaz, earning leon a title shot in 2022)
- many many more to come.


Colby vs leon is much less offensive. atleast colby is a top 5 guy coming off a win.

 

[bjjwar]

After a fight.

Colby was simply a backup.

This is unprecedented for a backup fighter.

And Shavkat is obviously a star in the making.

Loool no casual even heard of Shavkat's name and dude was fighting Geoff Neal ffs.

And it was his backstage interview and did more than Colby <45>

Colby really is an unknown bum.

 

[DjolexMTL]

If only he fought more than once every year or two while cherry-picking questionably relevant fighters to prove he can "actually fight".

Furthermore, if you think Colby has a legitimate chance at beating Leon, then you pretty much have to accept that Belal has at least a chance at doing so IMO. Their games are incredibly similar. Colby's striking is cleaner on the feet, but it's not like he'll be striking with Leon for any extended duration. And Belal is the one who's been active picking up solid wins lately while showing improvements in his game. Colby... not so much.

Oh, and something that should go without saying: someone being "big business" (according to you) is in no way reason to accept the death of meritocratic matchmaking.

Overall: 2/10

If you think Belal and Colby are identical threats to Leon, wash your glasses haha. Colby has a much higher pace than Belal, and thus a better chance of overwhelming Leon over 5 rounds and negating his kicking game.

Not saying it's a given, but they're not the same. Same style, but different output and efficiency

 

[Safton]

If you think Belal and Colby are identical threats to Leon, wash your glasses haha. Colby has a much higher pace than Belal, and thus a better chance of overwhelming Leon over 5 rounds and negating his kicking game.

Not saying it's a given, but they're not the same. Same style, but different output and efficiency

If you think what I said equals "they're identical threats" then wash your glasses. I said if OP thinks Colby will beat Leon -- which he seems incredibly confident of -- then he must also acknowledge that Belal at least stands a notable chance rather than entirely dismissing him out of hand which he did in the very same post, as if him fighting Leon is a foregone conclusion in which he is a lamb being sent to the slaughter. Belal has Colby's five-round cardio, a pretty potent offensive & defensive wrestling game, and actually lands slightly more strikes per minute. I agree that Colby's wrestling pace is more aggressive and dangerous along with a more varied striking game, though Belal has shown the ability to be able to set a respectable pace in both of those departments as well.

Context matters.

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I agree with you but look at where we are at. burns begged for the masvidal fight. Usman begged for the masvidal fight. Edwards is begging for the masvidal fight.

Irrelevant.

We can question the relevence of beating masvidal in 2023, but it's the hot new thing when you give a guy like that 2 title fights in a row his name value gets inflated. Even champions want to fight him.

Irrelevant.

Some say that burns vs masvidal winner should get the title shot but should they? Should masvidal who would be 1-3 in his last 4 get a shot win a win over burns? Should burns get a shot for beating masvidal? if burns gets the shot for being masvidal, Why not colby? he beat him more recently.

No, Belal should get the title shot. If Burns beats Masvidal, he would have a better case for a title shot than Colby, yes. If Masvidal upsets Burns, then no -- Colby would have a better case. Burns wouldn't get a title shot "for beating Masvidal". He would get it for being an active contender in the division who was on a 2-fight win streak and had just defeated two ranked contenders. This isn't rocket science.

And as far as "meritocractic matchmaking" goes, Fans are fickle and don't care. People on this very website were cool with glover vs jiri 2 only because they like glover. No other reason was it merited but by my measure a majority of people were okay with it. now they are not okay with this and it's not because of merit, it's because of bias.

I like Glover. He was one of my favorite fighters. I argued extensively against the immediate rematch because it made no sense based on the meritocratic standings of the division. But all I got was a bunch of people bitching about "Buuuut Glover deseeeeeeeeerves it! He's oooooold!"

Kindly don't apply your blanket justifications to an entire fanbase.

Just to make things clear, If you're not okay with Colby getting a shot at leon with a win over masvidal we should also protest....

- Stipe vs jones
- Glover vs jiri 2
- Masvidal vs Usman 1 (it was booked and fell through before it was made a replacement)
- Masvidal vs usman 2
- Leon vs Usman 1 (nate diaz, earning leon a title shot in 2022)
- many many more to come

Colby vs leon is much less offensive. atleast colby is a top 5 guy coming off a win.

- I am a massive Stipe fan -- dude literally got me into the sport -- and I have said on multiple occasions that he doesn't belong anywhere near the title without beating a Top 5 guy.

- See above.

- What are you on about? Masvidal was on a three-fight winning streak against Darren Till (#3 in the division and recent title challenger), Ben Askren (#5 and then-undefeated), and Nate Diaz (#7) -- all in the space of a year and all by finish. Him filling in on short notice for a title fight is in no way egregious, dude.

- Yes, Masvidal/Usman 2 was stupid, needless legacy-building for Usman. No one disputes this.

- I don't agree with Nate Diaz being fed to a Top 5 contender, but Leon had arguably already earned a title shot. It didn't help that his fights fell against other previous top contenders (Chimaev, Woodley back when he was relevant, etc.) kept falling through, often through no fault of his own. So yes, protest-worthy, but only mildly so.


Colby vs. Leon is plenty egregious on its own. I should also note that the whole "Why are you outraged about this?! Just look at all of these other bad things!" smokescreen is a pretty low form of debating just on basic principle.

 

[Masturbin]

Lol. Yeah right. Colby vs Masvidal did less than 400k buys

Really?
Lol that's pathetic

 

[DjolexMTL]

If you think what I said equals "they're identical threats" then wash your glasses. I said if OP thinks Colby will beat Leon -- which he seems incredibly confident of -- then he must also acknowledge that Belal at least stands a notable chance rather than entirely dismissing him out of hand which he did in the very same post, as if him fighting Leon is a foregone conclusion in which he is a lamb being sent to the slaughter. Belal has Colby's five-round cardio, a pretty potent offensive & defensive wrestling game, and actually lands slightly more strikes per minute. I agree that Colby's wrestling pace is more aggressive and dangerous along with a more varied striking game, though Belal has shown the ability to be able to set a respectable pace in both of those departments as well.

Context matters.

I agree with you chief

 

[AmonTobin]

The more contrived and forced the persona, the less I care. That's just me. The fights always come first for me. Guys flapping their gums doesn't interest me or phase me. I like seeing guys who deliver in the cage. If Colby delivers a great fight in the cage then wonderful. If he's a bore in there, then no amount of talk will change that.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

colby vs masvidal was the best selling ppv of 2022

That is a LIE!!!!!!

UFC 274 and UFC 276 were tied for the highest selling PPV at 400k that year

Buys for Colby vs Masvidal were never released


Even if we look at gates


Colby vs Masvidal generated $6.76 million gate whereas 282 generated $11,562,807.77 gate. Almost double


There is absolutely NO WAY Colby/Masvidal was the biggest PPV of the year

 

[shunyata]

Colby is a poor man's Chael Sonnen.

Change my mind.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

What were his previous numbers?
Edit: looks like his second bout with Usman did around 700k. Not too shabby. No wonder he’s getting the next shot.

Colby has headlined 3 ppv all as the B side mind you.
Usman has headlined 8 ppv his lowest selling fight was 245 vs Colby.
Masvidal has headlined 4 ppv his lowest selling fight was 272 vs Colby.

 

[MeatWagon06]

Exactly.

He's probably a teddy bear when the cameras are off.

It's hilarious after telling Usman "I was only trying to make us money" that people still don't get it.

I love it.

He's a teddy bear, you wanna cuddle him, your AV is him in another man's guard. Hmmm

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

He's a teddy bear, you wanna cuddle him, your AV is him in another man's guard. Hmmm

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Brilliant GOATS are admired.

Es normal.

 

[Maybe2]

I hate this place sometimes. Makes it hard to stick to my rule of not arguing with people on the internet.

 

[Mebetter]

Colby has no KO Power and is not a submission artist. He's pretty much a poor man's Chael on the mic.

If Jorge beats Burns, then Leon vs Jorge would be a better selling ppv than Leon vs Colby,

 

[MeatWagon06]

I hate this place sometimes. Makes it hard to stick to my rule of not arguing with people on the internet.

Maybe you shouldn't come around. This karate forum is meant for arguing.

 

[Maybe2]

Maybe you shouldn't come around. This karate forum is meant for arguing.

It seems like it.

 

[StonedLemur]

If only he fought more than once every year or two while cherry-picking questionably relevant fighters to prove he can "actually fight".

Furthermore, if you think Colby can/will beat Leon, then you pretty much have to accept that Belal has at least a chance at doing so as well IMO. Their games are incredibly similar. Colby's striking is cleaner on the feet, but it's not like he'll be striking with Leon for any extended duration. And Belal is the one who's been active picking up solid wins lately while showing improvements in his game. Colby... not so much.

Oh, and something that should go without saying: someone being "big business" (according to you) is in no way reason to accept the death of meritocratic matchmaking.

Overall: 2/10

Slam dunk as usual sir.

 

[StonedLemur]

Every reasonable person knows Colby had to turn on a persona and is actually a decent guy + entertaining high pace fights.

He had to turn on the persona because he can't finish a fight to save his life.