Closest you can get to steroids

Its a pre-workout, but the original formula had 1,3 dymethyl (banned substance). Shit had you feeling like you had all the energy in the world.
You can still buy dmaa on line in bulk if you want. It was originally pulled from "Dietary" supplements but the fda was taken to court by a company called hi-tech. I don't think a ruling on it has been given yet.
 
What you are looking for is a natty stack, a really good one. Of course there is always the usual advice of "Eat/Sleep/Train/Repeat" but let's just assume you already doing those things a give you what you really want.

If you are cutting:
1) Foreskolin (95% extract)
2)Erase Pro +
3)DAA (This isn't really all that useful but it can be when stacked with all this shit)
4) Phosphatidic Acid (soy lecithin)

Bulking:
1) Anabeta Elite
2)ArA (arachidonic acid) (This is probably the most effective on the list)
3)Ergonine
4) Phosphatidic Acid (soy lecithin)

If we are talking natty stacks, this is as close as possible you can get to steroid like benefits. Make no mistake though, test on it's own is still better than all of those combined by a country mile. I didn't add SARMS because the good ones suppress the T levels as we are slowly finding out online from anecdotes.
 
What do you guys think of pine pollen and DAA? I've been using that occasionally when I feel like I need a boost and they seem to help. I heard DAA and zinc you shouldn't take all the time.

I've been looking for stuff that will help my body produce more T on its own. I don't want anything that's going to suppress my body's ability to produce T by itself and hinder my body's ability to produce T at the same level before I ever started taking the stuff, if I were to discontinue the supplement. I've heard that when you take steroids and hormones, it suppresses your body's ability to produce its own hormones.

I don't think I'd ever want to take T or growth hormone on their own. I look at Joe Rogan, Dana White, Jay Cutler, and Sylvester Stallone and, imo, they have big, oversized noggins. I heard that taking T and GH makes your skull, hands, feet, and organs grow and your heart has to work harder. Aren't they hard on the liver too?

I want to help my body produce as much T as naturally possible so right now I often intermittent fast, which has helped me to feel good even though I dropped weight and didn't want to. I lift occasionally too.

The subject of steroids and hormones has always interested me; I like reading different research and guy's experiences.

I know after listening to Luis Marco and seeing examples of palumboism and bubble gut I don't ever want to do steroids. Reading about Andreas Munzer as well as other dead bodybuilders scared me off pretty good.

I'm 34 now and just want to slow the inevitable.

End ramble.
 
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