Rumored Ciryl Gane plans to return in September and targets a fight with Sergei Pavlovich.

[Prince Nephilim]

Imagine if Cyril somehow manages to take him down and submit him

 

[El Panteron]

This is HW. The HW division has always been ruled by people who haven't fought in forever. Stipe is more deserving than any other candidate. No one else has his feats.

His feats are many years removed from now though. Pavlovich has been fighting in the current division. All of Miocic's best wins are out of the company!
I like Miocic, I'd absolutely root for him, I'm not trying to downplay his accomplishments or anything.
But I don't think you should get a title shot on history.

 

[jaberwock555]

Stipe hasn't had an unavenged loss in like a decade.

Doesn't matter. He lost his last fight.

 

[ferrisjso]

Doesn't matter. He lost his last fight.

To the champ who he'd previously beaten 5-0.

 

[jaberwock555]

To the champ who he'd previously beaten 5-0.

And how many fights did that guy have to win before facing Stipe again?

 

[ferrisjso]

And how many fights did that guy have to win before facing Stipe again?

Stipe would be easier to earn a rematch with Francis because it's 1-1.

 

[jaberwock555]

Stipe would be easier to earn a rematch with Francis because it's 1-1.

So then Stipe should follow Francis to PFL.

 

[icemun]

If Jones was as confident as you are, he would have already accepted Pav's callout.

For what?

Pav just fought for free. For free.

No one knows who he is.

 

[jaberwock555]

For what?

For defending the belt like a champion usually does.

 

[icemun]

For defending the belt like a champion usually does.

Against an unkown?

Who just for free?

 

[BowserJr]

LMFAO

UFC wants no part of Jones v Pav

 

[BowserJr]

It's a terrible fight for the UFC to make. If Gane wins, they'll derail Pavlovich with no benefit gained, as Gane will still be known as the guy with zero defence against wrestlers. Winning the fight does very little to change the perception of Gane and Gane winning it destroys the credibility of the division.

Pavlovich on the other hand has already built himself up as the #1 challenger with five consecutive 1st round KOs and proved himself against a wrestler too. The fight is simply large risk, little benefit in every way.

And this exactly what the UFC will do. They love protecting guys like Jones to the detriment of the overall product.

They derailed MW to protect Bisping... they're shelving Pav. Mark my words

 

[jaberwock555]

Against an unkown?

Yes because that unknown happens to be on a 6 fight winning streak.

 

[Superzorro]

Feel about what? Pav being more eligible for the belt than Stipe is completely factual.

But he was not guaranteed a title shot. So how is he waiting for something that was never guaranteed?

 

[Superzorro]

Yes because that unknown happens to be on a 6 fight winning streak.

Against who though? Three of those matter. And his best win is Blaydes, who has been knocked out by fighters who are not elite like Derrick Lewis.

 

[Hdfi]

Nonsensical fight.

 

[jaberwock555]

But he was not guaranteed a title shot. So how is he waiting for something that was never guaranteed?

It's not guaranteed because Jones is adamant that he only wants to fight Stipe which is why I'm saying that Jones is ducking Pav.

 

[jaberwock555]

Against who though? Three of those matter. And his best win is Blaydes, who has been knocked out by fighters who are not elite like Derrick Lewis.

And that still makes him more eligible than Stipe who got knocked out in his last fight.

 

[Superzorro]

Doesn't matter. He lost his last fight.

It doesn’t matter to you. Whether or not it matters to the people who make these decisions remain to be seen. To me, if you’re waiting for a title shot before anyone has said you’re getting one— refusing to fight until they say you get one, that’s ducking.

 

[Superzorro]

And that still makes him more eligible than Stipe who got knocked out in his last fight.

There are people who have gotten rematches after being knocked out. So what standard are you going by?